Modern Internet "terms" like "incel" are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

[Shodan]

Celibate is voluntary by definition and saying "involuntary celibate" is about as nonsensical as something like "impossible possibility".

Anyway, even if the "word" itself actually wasn't meaningless ♥♥♥♥, its' definition is just as stupid:

Literally anyone who hasn't had sex and wants to could classify as an "incel" just fine and there's no reason why the "term" should necessarily refer to some creepy male morons with moronic views and not like normal 13 years old girls who just couldn't find a partner, for example.

Similarly, you got people on the Internet using the prefixes "cis-" and "trans-" as if they were words on their own. And the best part is that at the same time, they use these 2 prefixes and also argue that there are more than 2 options beside these "cis-" and "trans-" ones, like entire spectrums even. If you learned history at school, then you might be familiar with the terms "cisalpine" and "transalpine", meaning "on this side of the Alps" and "on the other side of the Alps" respectively, so there are obviously just these 2 possibilities and that's why these prefixes are used. When you say "the" other side, then that refers to the one and only specific alternative.

Basically, there's zero logic behind any of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying Internet "vocabulary" and people who actually seriously use ♥♥♥♥ like "incel" in an argument tend to be morons. So, if someone is being a creepy piece of ♥♥♥♥ and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moron, then just call him that because that actually has some meaning then. When you invent ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like "incel", it eventually loses all meaning (assuming it had any to begin with, which is not the case here) and then it especially means nothing and you just sound like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moron.

[Jelly]

I agree but I am just ignoring it instead of busting a vein in my head over it

[LOKKD]

incel rage lol

[B]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ooabak21:

incel rage lol

Lol

[Electric Cupcake]

Oxymorons and rhetorical tautologies are hardly new.

[Shodan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mangelie:

I agree but I am just ignoring it instead of busting a vein in my head over it

Well, if there can be "incel this, incel that" everywhere all the time, including this forum, then there can be at least 1 thread about how stupid it is. Sounds fair to me.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Electric Cupcake:

Oxymorons and rhetorical tautologies are hardly new.

♥♥♥♥ people who say "the most optimal", especially when they're some fancy-ass "professors" and politicians and what not. I originally said something else, but I realized some people here suck enough to report me for it.

[ṼṏẌṏḭḊ]

If you just ignore the people who use it and the threads where the term is used, it's not a problem.

[Birds]

so is volcel redundant then?

[Electric Cupcake]

Double-superlatives and double-negatives are a special kind of criminality. Not even Mr. Fowler[archive.org] could discuss them in such a way as to elicit a chuckle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc&pp=ygULd29yZCBjcmltZXM%3D

[Shodan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Birds:

so is volcel redundant then?

Never heard, but "femcel" is even more stupid. I miss the times when such people would either get zero attention and/or just be dismissed as some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ morons or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lunatics which is far more accurate than any of these weird and nonsensical "terms" that people throw around because they heard them on TikTok or some ♥♥♥♥.

[Knee]

Try interpreting things less literally

[Boblin the Goblin]

Celibacy can be involuntary.

As in, the person is trying to have sex but is always denied. They aren't choosing to be celibate.

[Shodan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Celibacy can be involuntary.

As in, the person is trying to have sex but is always denied. They aren't choosing to be celibate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy

"Celibacy (from Latin caelibatus) is the state of voluntarily being unmarried, sexually abstinent, or both, usually for religious reasons."

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Shodan:

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Celibacy can be involuntary.

As in, the person is trying to have sex but is always denied. They aren't choosing to be celibate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy

"Celibacy (from Latin caelibatus) is the state of voluntarily being unmarried, sexually abstinent, or both, usually for religious reasons."

Welcome to language changing and new words forming.

Also, a 'celibate' is different from an 'incel'.

[bisder]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Shodan:

nonsensical as something like "impossible possibility"

I dunno, it makes sense to me. Impossible possibility to me would mean something that is possible, but not under current conditions. If conditions changed then it would be possible. So ultimately it is still a possibility, but still not currently possible. But then again I have an incredible ability to make conflicting ideas work like a yin-yang. YMMV

[El Mythical 23 k.s.c.]

Incel was first made as a term by gay people. Later on people that aren't gay but want to pretend they are made it a bad thing cause they hate white men.