Dr. Disrespect

[SHINRA-CORP]

I dont think he did it!

If there's no evidence then it's just allegations at this point. But this day and age all it takes is allegations. Hes been dropped by Midnight Society and hes said hes taking a break from streaming. He even said in his own words "Just drive off in to the sunset" so maybe he won't come back at all as it seems hes being cancelled.

Now he may have done it, its possible but I'm leaning towards he didn't do it because he would surely be arrested for a crime against a minor.

I think what possibly happened is he flirted with someone using Twitch whispers then found out shes actually a minor then cut off communication.

He's apparently signed an NDA which is why everything is very cryptic at the moment. You cant sign an NDA to cover up a crime.

Update:

Since my original post he has released a statement admitting to the accusations. He was messaging a minor inappropriately. My stance is now he is clearly guilty by his own admission. I cant support that at all. He had an opportunity in his statement to let everyone know that he didn't know they were a minor.

He didn't say anything of the sort so its obvious that he knew their age. Because ifvhe didn't know then he would make sure to tell us as that would change the context of the situation.

[Not Big Surprise]

ayaya の投稿を引用：

sad bruh like its not that damn hard to be into kids.

please tell me you meant "not be into kids"

[Boblin the Goblin]

abcd の投稿を引用：

SlowMango の投稿を引用：

You're literally making things up.

I'm literally repeating what I heard on twitter.

maybe you just don't know any better.

"What you heard."

So you don't actually know.

[smokerob79]

real world we know he cheated on his old lady.....we now know why twitch cut ties and real world I think they already covered it up do to statue of limitations and the fact its been 7 years almost on the nose.....

for me and i how i feel....i never liked the guy and he gave gaming a bad name.....if he invested any thing he should be set for life if he just gives up and goes out now....

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Swarmfly の投稿を引用：

Remember, the internet hate mob is always right.

The mob only sees the face value of what is said, there never is a moment they look back to see if it actually went anywhere.

like 99% of them just see a post or watched a short video about it and make judgement calls based off of that.

Most of the videos on topics like this that actually put effort into researching the drama are still drumming things up to a degree.

Literally have seen well researched videos completely drop the ball on some points and start making baseless assumptions and speculation towards the end.

But people buy it because the rest of the video is actually well done.

Never let the internet be your lawyer lol, that being said Drs case is pretty clear, mostly because it wasn't just a bunch of "he said she said" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
There were more parties involved and things that we know for certain happened regardless of anything being publicly said.

[76561199402921479]

Not Big Surprise の投稿を引用：

ayaya の投稿を引用：

sad bruh like its not that damn hard to be into kids.

please tell me you meant "not be into kids"

YES I DID LMAOOO oh nah ima edit

[Soren]

SlowMango の投稿を引用：

abcd の投稿を引用：

I'm literally repeating what I heard on twitter.

maybe you just don't know any better.

"What you heard."

So you don't actually know.

There was or is this contingency of twitter people trying every excuse under the sun. The most common one is they think Twitch was guilty of entrapment. Then there are some who think the victim must have been 17.999 years old and it was okay because the victim was basically at the age of consent. People defend Disrespect mostly because the sunk cost fallacy. They're invested into being a fan of the Doc.

That's probably where the age 17 number comes from via random Twitter users. Real insiders don't want to give the age at all because that is an identifying trait about the victim. There are a lot of protections surrounding reporting on victims who are minors. If someone violated that, the punishments would be harsh.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Soren の投稿を引用：

SlowMango の投稿を引用：

"What you heard."

So you don't actually know.

There was or is this contingency of twitter people trying every excuse under the sun. The most common one is they think Twitch was guilty of entrapment. Then there are some who think the victim must have been 17.999 years old and it was okay because the victim was basically at the age of consent. People defend Disrespect mostly because the sunk cost fallacy. They're invested into being a fan of the Doc.

That's probably where the age 17 number comes from via random Twitter users. Real insiders don't want to give the age at all because that is an identifying trait about the victim. There are a lot of protections surrounding reporting on victims who are minors. If someone violated that, the punishments would be harsh.

Such a massive cope "They were almost 18" or "but they were 18" like wtf does it matter? Why is someone his age talking to people half or less than his own age?

I have yet to see a relationship like that, that isn't toxic and just about sex and/or money. Never good reasons.

[Jackie Daytona]

Soren の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

I was a victim of sexual abuse. I know all about it. Years of therapy to deal with it. The experience is unimaginable. You just have to live with it... forever.

Victims around celebrities are kind of stuck in this awful position of where if they come forward, they are harassed for the rest of their life for it. So, that's kind of what is more unique about this situation.

So despite the Doc admitting to the crime himself in a "to catch a predator" style where he says there was no intent. Despite that being all the proof you need. people still want the victim to show themselves so a certain subset of people can harass the said victim for the rest of their lives as revenge for ruining the Doc's image.

This thread is the perfect example of people overreacting to something they don't really know. "Inappropriate texts with a minor?! MUST BE PEDO!" I don't know the details. No one does. Except some shady journalists that assure us it's true. Based on sources that CANNOT be fact-checked.

Everyone is judging him on partial information. That isn't fair. I don't like the guy. Never did. I think his character is lame. But I have seen NO PROOF that anything he did was because he's into little girls.

Everyone is like, "He admitted it!" Ignoring facts such as there never being any criminal charges. And him never even meeting them in person. And having no clue what he actually said. Or why. Or when. Or the circumstances.

[abcd]

SlowMango の投稿を引用：

abcd の投稿を引用：

I'm literally repeating what I heard on twitter.

maybe you just don't know any better.

"What you heard."

So you don't actually know.

No court has created or pressed any charges.

The only one in the wrong here is Twitch, who lost a lawsuit for their behavior.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Soren の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

I was a victim of sexual abuse. I know all about it. Years of therapy to deal with it. The experience is unimaginable. You just have to live with it... forever.

Victims around celebrities are kind of stuck in this awful position of where if they come forward, they are harassed for the rest of their life for it. So, that's kind of what is more unique about this situation.

So despite the Doc admitting to the crime himself in a "to catch a predator" style where he says there was no intent. Despite that being all the proof you need. people still want the victim to show themselves so a certain subset of people can harass the said victim for the rest of their lives as revenge for ruining the Doc's image.

The only real way to go about it is through the court, defaming people on social media is never the way to go in these situations. In fact it actually hurts your case more than helps

The mob is never justice

[Soren]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Everyone is like, "He admitted it!" Ignoring facts such as there never being any criminal charges. And him never even meeting them in person. And having no clue what he actually said. Or why. Or when. Or the circumstances.

So glad we're using the Drake defence on pedophiles in front of a confession (the literal gold standard for proof when prosecuting). The problem is most pedophiles are going to get away with their crimes the first 10 or so times. Most everyone in society knows anyone on Chris Hansen's show was a pedo even though many of those people didn't get arrested.

The problem is the law doesn't really want to go after this sort of thing. It's hard to prosocute for intent even if most people in society know that intent to sleep with a child is almost just as bad as actually doing it. This is the reason Epstein got away with it for decades. Why Larray Nassar had 500+ victims before the law went after him. It's why Jared from Subway got reported for years before law enforcement finally decide to raid his house. Years of Jared doing kid fitness Subway sponsored initiatives. The thought makes me disgusted. Meanwhile you'd be there saying he did nothing wrong all the way to the FBI house raid.

abcd の投稿を引用：

No court has created or pressed any charges.

The only one in the wrong here is Twitch, who lost a lawsuit for their behavior.

They didn't lose their lawsuit. Twitch settled with Guy because they had more to lose than he did. If the most popular Twitch streamer at the time was caught being a pedo on Twitch dms, that would hurt Amazon and Twitch more than it would Dr. Disrespect. He'd only lose everything. Millions in value. They'd lose potentially billions long term. By settling, no one ever had to know that a big Twitch streamer did a pedophilia on their platform.

Fact of the matter, if Twitch wasn't going to be blamed for Disrespect's actions. They probably would have taken it to court and won. It also doesn't look good that they browsed private DMs even though every company has policies about doing that now if they receive reports of abuse. Twitch users wouldn't like to hear it though.

[Iggy Wolf]

This begs the question though. It Twitch allows users as young as 13 years old to use the platform, then what controls are in place to prevent a minor from conversing with an adult Twitch streamer? I'm sure people will say the adult should know better, but honestly, isn't this why some platforms limit their audience to an 18+ only audience?

Twitch can try to act dumb in this situation, but when you have people like Amarounth doing what is essentially "softcore porn", as well as other female streamers, KNOWING some of their audience are younger than 18 years old, then where's the line? Or is apparently interacting only on the stream itself ok, but outside of that, it's taboo? I fail to see how something being public is "less" worse than when it's private. Might as well let 13 year olds watch hardcore 21+ porn. I'm sure some TRY to, but that's on them and the platforms that manage such explicit content.

[abcd]

It was a twitch-organized event that hooked them up. I don't think the law cares if twitch did or did not endorse what occurred; the law did not do anything to act and they do not care.

Twitch is simply creating an issue for the sake of manipulating an outstanding arbitration case regarding the settlement wherein they did not admit fault, but did admit wrongdoing in regards to contract violations.

If Twitch is willing to breach a contract they designed and agreed to then I'm sure they're willing to do all kinds of nefarious things.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

abcd の投稿を引用：

It was a twitch-organized event that hooked them up. I don't think the law cares if twitch did or did not endorse what occurred; they did not do anything to act and do not care.

Twitch is simply creating an issue for the sake of manipulating an outstanding arbitration case regarding the settlement wherein they did not admit fault, but did admit wrongdoing in regards to contract violations.

Iggy Wolf の投稿を引用：

This begs the question though. It Twitch allows users as young as 13 years old to use the platform, then what controls are in place to prevent a minor from conversing with an adult Twitch streamer? I'm sure people will say the adult should know better, but honestly, isn't this why some platforms limit their audience to an 18+ only audience?

Twitch can try to act dumb in this situation, but when you have people like Amarounth doing what is essentially "softcore porn", as well as other female streamers, KNOWING some of their audience are younger than 18 years old, then where's the line? Or is apparently interacting only on the stream itself ok, but outside of that, it's taboo? I fail to see how something being public is "less" worse than when it's private. Might as well let 13 year olds watch hardcore 21+ porn. I'm sure some TRY to, but that's on them and the platforms that manage such explicit content.

It's not the world nor the Internet's job to babysit someone elses kids. All they can be required to do is just put that "are you 18?" thing or ask for age and report things if they must. I garuntee none of that is going to actually remove the issue, because clicking that button just removes alot of the legal ♥♥♥♥ that could get tangled up in and nothing else.

they'd probably just require it for certain streams or streamers etc, which I think they already do

It's always the question of "where tf are the parents in all this?!" imo

[Soren]

Iggy Wolf の投稿を引用：

This begs the question though. It Twitch allows users as young as 13 years old to use the platform, then what controls are in place to prevent a minor from conversing with an adult Twitch streamer? I'm sure people will say the adult should know better, but honestly, isn't this why some platforms limit their audience to an 18+ only audience?

Twitch's own Terms of Service say if you're a minor, you are not supposed to be using the service unsupervised. Not that this matters, Dr. Disrespect found out the person was a minor in the dms, but continued anyway.

In regards to what counter-measures can we use to keep minors off sites and stop them from lying when signing up? I don't know. But nobody has a reasonable answer to that yet. Asking people to show their government IDs to sign up to youtube and twitch is insane. Wouldn't even work that well tbh because fake or stolen IDs could be a thing. Plus, imagine if you never got a Driver's license, would you need to show your health card or SIN card at that point? Seems like a huge risk security and privacy wise and would seriously harm the internet's ease of access for most people.