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Rain :) 25 czerwca 2024 o 2:59
[USA] A Lesson About Blatant Tyranny
In America,

The top 0.1% have $20,660,000,000,000 USD

The group between 99% and 99.9% have $25,520,000,000,000 USD

The group between 90% and 99% have $55,440,000,000,000 USD

The group between 50% and 90% have $46,280,000,000,000 USD

While the bottom 50% has $3,780,000,000,000 USD

So, the refined percentages of wealth distribution are:

The top 0.1% hold approximately 13.62% of the total wealth.

The group between 99% and 99.9% hold approximately 16.82% of the total wealth.

The group between 90% and 99% hold approximately 36.53% of the total wealth.

The group between 50% and 90% hold approximately 30.50% of the total wealth.

The bottom 50% hold approximately 2.49% of the total wealth.

Source for Q1, 2024

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/chart/
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Caldari Ghost 25 czerwca 2024 o 12:46 
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your posts are starting to become blatantly disrespectful.
Like said - i only react to what You write, and i already said in the third reply that You´re just here for trolling
it takes more than saying something for it to be true. you let your cynicism shut down any chance of a genuine conversation. no respect indeed, neither for me nor for this thread.



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These are facts
no, they are a result of your wishful, magical thinking.
talemore 25 czerwca 2024 o 12:50 
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Federal reserve bank of Chicago has a bad reputation for being a diversion of the federal reserve using their power position to not only work as a bank but as a judge on when the interest rates changes.

This creates an issue for banks as many banks rely on private company banks to create cheaper loans than the interest rate of the bank.

When trump lowered the interest rate it risked the federal reserve as it rely on private banks working as the federal reserve.

Those who both hate and love trump plays both games by first saying they love the private banks and their rule over the market while hate the federal reserve which the private banks are relying on.

When the interest rate goes up those who have money becomes richer. When the interest rate is low, people become richer as companies hire people.

One has to decide where they are in life. If you are in struggle to survive you will love trump. If you have the only problem that there are too many people alive and it should be federal's task to disposed these people from the street you will love federal reserve protecting your throne.
As long as corporations are people the lies will continue.
The 80's put America on the fast track to doom.
This started the "push it till it breaks... " "don't give raises.." attitude of business since they didn't HAVE to use up profit. That has brought us to the current unhealthy division in our classes.
The idea that "debt is good" we just have to keep growing and pushing inflation.. while not giving raises... is totally unbalanced and insane.

1. You cannot grow forever.. that is a fallacy that we base our present economy on!
2. Debt is BAD
3. GDP is Gross and can be misrepresented easily... at the end of the day if it = DEBT it's bad.

The only thing our current "trickle down" economy is doing is creating slaves to the super rich, and they even came out and told us in the future we will "own nothing" like in China and Russia now. This is the plan for Gods sake. Wake up!


Vietnam war had one major impact. It increased the interest rates as more people died.

As the house prices went down they had to increase the house prices by making the richest buying up houses by providing them with money. 2007 financial crisis.

Since they are so rich nobody asks where they got the money.
Triple G 25 czerwca 2024 o 13:06 
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it takes more than saying something for it to be true. you let your cynicism shut down any chance of a genuine conversation. no respect indeed, neither for me nor for this thread.

Your respect for the thread and poor people and me:

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crabs gonna crab LOL

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what makes poor people poorer than rich people?

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That they have less money / wealth?

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why

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Because the definition of poor means having too little, and the definition of rich means having more than You need.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
what causes poor people to be poorer than rich people

Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
This is not how it works. What causes rich people to be richer than poor people would be the right question.

Answers:
1. Heritage
2. Gifts
3. It´s easier to make money with money than it is to make money with work. Hence capitalism...

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
why dont poor people do those things

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Because they need money to buy property, but they´re poor, so they can´t afford it.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
so how did rich people get money to buy property
And so on and so forth, while You went more an more destructive while also making conclusions about things which i never said - and never answering any questions...


So there are only 2 options:
1. You´re utterly stupid, or
2. You´re trolling.

I said You´re trolling. Now You want to convince me that You´re stupid instead?
Caldari Ghost 25 czerwca 2024 o 13:31 
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it takes more than saying something for it to be true. you let your cynicism shut down any chance of a genuine conversation. no respect indeed, neither for me nor for this thread.

Your respect for the thread and poor people and me:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
crabs gonna crab LOL

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
what makes poor people poorer than rich people?

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That they have less money / wealth?

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
why

Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
Because the definition of poor means having too little, and the definition of rich means having more than You need.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
what causes poor people to be poorer than rich people

Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
This is not how it works. What causes rich people to be richer than poor people would be the right question.

Answers:
1. Heritage
2. Gifts
3. It´s easier to make money with money than it is to make money with work. Hence capitalism...

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
why dont poor people do those things

Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
Because they need money to buy property, but they´re poor, so they can´t afford it.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
so how did rich people get money to buy property
And so on and so forth, while You went more an more destructive while also making conclusions about things which i never said - and never answering any questions...


So there are only 2 options:
1. You´re utterly stupid, or
2. You´re trolling.

I said You´re trolling. Now You want to convince me that You´re stupid instead?
what problem do you have with that chain of quotes? in what way do they illustrate a lack of respect for the thread or yourself? I can tell you i found your repeated attempts to change the subject to "me", so you can say "you this, you that" to be destructive to the thread. which, as i said before, is why i ignored them.
Triple G 25 czerwca 2024 o 13:53 
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what problem do you have with that chain of quotes? in what way do they illustrate a lack of respect for the thread or yourself? I can tell you i found your repeated attempts to change the subject to "me", so you can say "you this, you that" to be destructive to the thread. which, as i said before, is why i ignored them.
How did i "shut down any chance of a genuine conversation" with it?

But i´m now convinced about option 1. Good job. Also there was no need to quote the whole post, as You only picked a sentence in the former posts You did - to then conclude ridiculous things like:

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so poor people are poor because they ask questions?

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How is this connected to what i wrote?

and so on and so forth - while on a side note: it´s a super destructive question i suppose.

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im trying to understand your logic
It´s simple and straight forward so far. Should be easy to follow.

While then You made up the thing that You only want to understand the problem and the topic, and that i would try to change the subject from some braindead takes and questions - towards what? You? Probably because You´re not interested in the topic, the poor, the questions and anything at all. So why talk about it with You when You don´t show any interest, and only leave max 5 words per post? While You still manage to not contribute anything to the thread, but somehow try to blame me for it? You´re responsible for Your actions - not me...
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Triple G; 25 czerwca 2024 o 13:54
Caldari Ghost 25 czerwca 2024 o 14:07 
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to then conclude ridiculous things like:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
so poor people are poor because they ask questions?
that "conclusion" was drawn as an appropriate response to the answers you were giving at the time. they reflect what you were communicating to me.

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While then You made up the thing that You only want to understand the problem and the topic, and that i would try to change the subject from some braindead takes and questions - towards what?
how about not trying to change the subject?
Triple G 25 czerwca 2024 o 14:14 
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that "conclusion" was drawn as an appropriate response to the answers you were giving at the time. they reflect what you were communicating to me.
Not at all. But i repeat myself when i say: proof or it didn´t happen....

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how about not trying to change the subject?
What´s the subject? Asking pointless questions from Your side, and then make up some stuff which there is no proof for. And You´re still the test subject. I´ve rarely seen someone in a thread who would write so many comments without contributing anything to the topic. How many did You do? 50 comments? Do You think it´s good, or do You think it´s rather bad?
Caldari Ghost 25 czerwca 2024 o 14:21 
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Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
that "conclusion" was drawn as an appropriate response to the answers you were giving at the time. they reflect what you were communicating to me.
Not at all.
i never would have typed that question out otherwise. i simply do not believe that questions are a cause of problems. you of course are free to avoid responsibility for saying something so unreasonable.



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What´s the subject?
the topic that i kept you on track on with how i selected which of your lines to respond to, which happens to be directly related to the thread topic.
Triple G 26 czerwca 2024 o 0:44 
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i never would have typed that question out otherwise. i simply do not believe that questions are a cause of problems. you of course are free to avoid responsibility for saying something so unreasonable.
I literally asked for an example for a problem which exists, without asking a question. You ignored the question. I basically said in short words why it is impossible. It´s a fact. If You don´t believe in facts - that´s on You. You also said that asking questions is needed to solve problems - to which i said that answering questions is needed to solve problems. Basically You seem to have a twisted understanding on how things work, which is probably why You need to further ask about easy to understand things, which are phrased in one sentence - instead of talking about Your point of view, if it´s that reasonable. Which is the unreasonable part.

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the topic that i kept you on track on with how i selected which of your lines to respond to, which happens to be directly related to the thread topic.
So a topic, which You can´t even name. Very convincing. Also like said - very convincing that You didn´t contribute anything constructive to the topic in 420 comments so far.
Caldari Ghost 26 czerwca 2024 o 0:56 
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i never would have typed that question out otherwise. i simply do not believe that questions are a cause of problems. you of course are free to avoid responsibility for saying something so unreasonable.
I literally asked for an example for a problem which exists, without asking a question. You ignored the question. I basically said in short words why it is impossible. It´s a fact. If You don´t believe in facts - that´s on You. You also said that asking questions is needed to solve problems - to which i said that answering questions is needed to solve problems. Basically You seem to have a twisted understanding on how things work, which is probably why You need to further ask about easy to understand things, which are phrased in one sentence - instead of talking about Your point of view, if it´s that reasonable. Which is the unreasonable part.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
the topic that i kept you on track on with how i selected which of your lines to respond to, which happens to be directly related to the thread topic.
So a topic, which You can´t even name. Very convincing. Also like said - very convincing that You didn´t contribute anything constructive to the topic in 420 comments so far.
I already explained the topic to you earlier. You want me to repeat myself. It's also not my problem that you have a pathological tendency to frame things as something they are not. The difference here is that while you jump through all of these hoops to complicate things and give yourself material to perform sophistry with, all I have to do is remain honest and stick to the truth.
Triple G 26 czerwca 2024 o 1:19 
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I already explained the topic to you earlier.
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proof or it didn´t happen.

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... all I have to do...
No no, all You apparently have to do is to reply with anything, but things which are related to the topic - for the sake of replying. While You already showed that You have no interest in it.

I mean what´s the reason You do this? The only funny part is that usually mods close a thread for "nonconstructive arguments" after one guy posts something which is only halfway related to the topic, but somehow this one is all about an nonconstructive argument, but still open.
Caldari Ghost 26 czerwca 2024 o 1:23 
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I already explained the topic to you earlier.
Początkowo opublikowane przez Triple G:
proof or it didn´t happen.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
... all I have to do...
No no, all You apparently have to do is to reply with anything, but things which are related to the topic - for the sake of replying. While You already showed that You have no interest in it.

I mean what´s the reason You do this? The only funny part is that usually mods close a thread for "nonconstructive arguments" after one guy posts something which is only halfway related to the topic, but somehow this one is all about an nonconstructive argument, but still open.
perhaps unlike you, the mods do not require an explanation for the connection between my first post and your behavior.
Triple G 26 czerwca 2024 o 2:30 
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perhaps unlike you, the mods do not require an explanation for the connection between my first post and your behavior.
I´m pretty sure no mod looked into it, because nobody reported anything about it.

And it was more about that they rather choose a random explanation to lock a thread...

Also i explained my behavior a couple of times. I just find it funny that You keep going - which was what i expected when i decided to reply to You, to find out when You will stop - even if everything was already said like 666 posts ago...
Caldari Ghost 26 czerwca 2024 o 2:38 
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perhaps unlike you, the mods do not require an explanation for the connection between my first post and your behavior.
I´m pretty sure no mod looked into it, because nobody reported anything about it.

And it was more about that they rather choose a random explanation to lock a thread...

Also i explained my behavior a couple of times. I just find it funny that You keep going - which was what i expected when i decided to reply to You, to find out when You will stop - even if everything was already said like 666 posts ago...
i already stated that my intentions are sincere and within the spirit of the thread. you admit to hijacking the thread because you lack the self awareness to avoid creating self fulfilling prophecies that you dont even approve of in the first place.
Triple G 26 czerwca 2024 o 2:43 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Caldari Ghost:
i already stated that my intentions are sincere and within the spirit of the thread.
Would be more convincing if You had contributed anything to it - except for spamming one liners.

I don´t hijack the thread. I only reply to You. And as You say You´re super on topic, it can´t be me who derails it. Like: logic....
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