Why do so many people work low paying jobs?

[Will be deleted]

Honestly why do people keep work all these low paying jobs, those jobs don't seems to have any future, like working for $15/h vs getting an education to make like $50/h the second option is simply much better in the long term. If good jobs don't exist you should move to another area with better jobs.

[aqua493xd]

Even with an education, there is no guarantee you get a job in your field. If given the option of no job, or work $15/hr, id pick the $15/hr job.
The biggest BS factor is whether you get a job nowadays is whether you have experience. If you dont have experience, no one wants to hire you.
College and university graduates understand this dilemma. You go through your program, learn about how to do work in your chosen field, then graduate, and every employer tells you they want experience. But you cant get experience because no one is hiring recent graduates. Its stupid. I apply anyway, like a FU to those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to at least look at my resume anyways, but in the end its always the same. You lack experience.

So to answer your question, people work a minimum wage job out of necessity, not by choice. If i had a choice, Id be working for a major tech company making $80K a year.

[O.G Willikers]

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question is how do people earn so little? $15 a hour is only £11.82 only slightly above NMW here. make more than that taking a pee. make more in a month than most do in a year, it takes work but those who sit at the bottom have no right to complain about how tough it is, stop being lazy. #horsepile

Uh-huh.
... In other words: You live in your mom's basement, drive a beat-up Subaru, and flip burgers at a fast-food restaurant?

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need to put food on the table and pay the bills

^This.

Sadly, so many young people want to sit around and pretend they make $120/hr and retired by age 20.
Meanwhile, the rest of us live in this place called the real world, and have to actually work.

(This from someone who sees soooo many Zoomers just screwing around at work, not doing anything and just expect to get paid for it. Then cry that there should be Welfare Universal Basic Income after they inevitably get fired.
Well, it doesn't exist kiddos, you either work, or you starve)

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Honestly why do people keep work all these low paying jobs, those jobs don't seems to have any future, like working for $15/h vs getting an education to make like $50/h the second option is simply much better in the long term. If good jobs don't exist you should move to another area with better jobs.

Hmm....
$15/hr.... versus $15/hr plus $100,000+ of debt? All to get a worthless scrap of paper that says "I'm smart".

Yeah, I think the ones that skipped college were, in fact, the smarter ones.

Ya its totally not like every piece of economic data suggests Gen X and boomers had record high wages and record low costs. Every time I see someone chest thumping about the real world and how they work I just think "old person who doesnt understand the silver spoon they were born with". You were factually paid several times more than kids these days are. You were factually living in an economy that had record low costs around housing, food and almost everything else. You factually lived through boom periods created by the entire world falling apart after WW2, stolen wages from minority workers and the destruction of unions/taxes which bloated your salaries while gutting salaries of those coming up behind you.

You chest thump from a life of luxury and ignorance. If you had to work twice as hard for half as much pay you would likely be shuffling your feet like many of the youth today.

Your advice about moving to a different area that pays better again also reveals your massive massive ignorance. Wages have not kept up with productivity since the 1970s. Factually if it had we would all be making $25 an hour, working 4 days a week and have medicare for all. Instead all the gains went to the top which is why economists now say we live in an oligarchy. But sure, sure, sure. Your golden oldie advice of applying elsewhere totally trumps decades of hard economic data.

[O.G Willikers]

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What kind of job would pay 50/hour? I can't think of a single job

Massage Therapist with their own studio can easily make $100+ / hour. There are A LOT of jobs that pay $50+. None of them are "unskilled labor" jobs though.

I like the way you say EASILY even though no massage therapist I know makes that money and had to put years of work into their field. Again the "get gud at life" crowd has the most piss poor logic and examples. We never hear you people quote economists or data...instead its always chest thumping examples of how you or others magically made easy money!

[AdahnGorion]

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lots of people are simply desperate and have very little options where they are, not everybody can start off with a job like target that pays at least 15 an hour

But it is a dead end, you should get away from those jobs as quickly as possible, yet many people seems to get stuck at those low paying jobs.

If the alternative is starting or becoming criminal, then its the only option for people in regions such as the US without free education.

[Hooch]

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Massage Therapist with their own studio can easily make $100+ / hour. There are A LOT of jobs that pay $50+. None of them are "unskilled labor" jobs though.

I like the way you say EASILY even though no massage therapist I know makes that money and had to put years of work into their field. Again the "get gud at life" crowd has the most piss poor logic and examples. We never hear you people quote economists or data...instead its always chest thumping examples of how you or others magically made easy money!

Just because you don't know HOW doesn't mean it cannot be done. I know what I said to be fact because I have firsthand knowledge of it.

Not every massage therapist can earn that rate, no. But for the good ones, absolutely they can. Have a background in physiology helps. Working for other studios gives experience and insights and training. Planning (timing, resources, finances) to start your own studio (whether it be from home or renting a spot) is the next step. Building a clientele via word of mouth and social media and from your past clients from other studios brings in the business.

This isn't rocket science. Is it something everyone can do? No, but good massage therapists, like anyone in their field if they stand out, can easily make a very good income, and they do.

Another job that pays $50+ hour that I have firsthand experience with: freelance graphic design, coding, website building.

Develop the skills to meet a demand. Then apply those skills.

[O.G Willikers]

Just once I want to meet a boomer or gen xer who understands they lived through record wages and record low costs. They all think they worked harder for less despite every last damned economist saying they had it easier than any generation ever....

[MasterP]

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Massage Therapist with their own studio can easily make $100+ / hour. There are A LOT of jobs that pay $50+. None of them are "unskilled labor" jobs though.

I like the way you say EASILY even though no massage therapist I know makes that money and had to put years of work into their field. Again the "get gud at life" crowd has the most piss poor logic and examples. We never hear you people quote economists or data...instead its always chest thumping examples of how you or others magically made easy money!

Its probably people with tunnel vision focusing a bit too much about their experiences, there are a bunch of people that make these numbers? Probably yes. These are the majority or is easy to do so for the average person? Probably no.
Its like with youtubers, people focus so much on the big names that they forget the fact that the big majority of youtubers arent anywere close to them.
When most of my social circle was made of high earning people, it really made things look like they were indeed that easy.
Its also probably have to do with the fact that the more money you have, the easier it gets to make more, while the less you have, the harder it gets to make money.

[O.G Willikers]

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I like the way you say EASILY even though no massage therapist I know makes that money and had to put years of work into their field. Again the "get gud at life" crowd has the most piss poor logic and examples. We never hear you people quote economists or data...instead its always chest thumping examples of how you or others magically made easy money!

Just because you don't know HOW doesn't mean it cannot be done. I know what I said to be fact because I have firsthand knowledge of it.

Not every massage therapist can earn that rate, no. But for the good ones, absolutely they can. Have a background in physiology helps. Working for other studios gives experience and insights and training. Planning (timing, resources, finances) to start your own studio (whether it be from home or renting a spot) is the next step. Building a clientele via word of mouth and social media and from your past clients from other studios brings in the business.

This isn't rocket science. Is it something everyone can do? No, but good massage therapists, like anyone in their field if they stand out, can easily make a very good income, and they do.

Note the complaint was on the word easy. You said it was easy. Not with work, knowledge and skill. No back tracking. You said easy. Easy implies anyone can do it. Not as you said "the good ones, trained, working in studios, who built clientele etc etc. That all sounds like hard work to me, not easy money.

[O.G Willikers]

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I like the way you say EASILY even though no massage therapist I know makes that money and had to put years of work into their field. Again the "get gud at life" crowd has the most piss poor logic and examples. We never hear you people quote economists or data...instead its always chest thumping examples of how you or others magically made easy money!

Its probably people with tunnel vision focusing a bit too much about their experiences, there are a bunch of people that make these numbers? Probably yes. These are the majority or is easy to do so for the average person? Probably no.
Its like with youtubers, people focus so much on the big names that they forget the fact that the big majority of youtubers arent anywere close to them.
When most of my social circle was made of high earning people, it really made things look like they were indeed that easy.
Its also probably have to do with the fact that the more money you have, the easier it gets to make more, while the less you have, the harder it gets to make money.

You will get zero disagreement from me that people live in a bubble. One of my top beliefs in life is that most people are not aware of their cognitive biases. Most people walk around in little bubbles of their own (or the leaders they choose to imitate) making to protect their views and way of life. We suck as a species at challenging our own views. Im personally fascinated by cognitive science and culture. By nature, especially in our modern society, we bend to cultures and schools of thought that conform to our biases and make us feel comforted. Hell cognitive science says there are whole groups of people who struggle to not create and live in bubbles at all times. Thus why conservatives and religious folks are literally are at war with not just a school or two of science...but loathe universities as a whole. It soothes their overactive amygdala. Its easier to believe universities are propaganda factories than to think "Christ im so in a bubble that im at war with every school of science or rational thought".

[Hooch]

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Just once I want to meet a boomer or gen xer who understands they lived through record wages and record low costs. They all think they worked harder for less despite every last damned economist saying they had it easier than any generation ever....

I'm Gen X. I know today is a much tougher climate than it was for the last few generations. But nothing I said in my post (and perhaps you weren't even referring to it) changes the fact that today, you CAN earn $50+ hour. The challenge is not in the doing, the challenge is learning how. Anyone can do it if 1) they are resilient, 2) develop their skills, 3) market their skills. You do not need a 130+ IQ for these jobs. Hell, many trade jobs now pay incredibly high salaries (HVAC, welding, plumbing, painting, roofing, framing, electrical, etc.). Develop those skills, implement them, and earn.

[Hooch]

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Just because you don't know HOW doesn't mean it cannot be done. I know what I said to be fact because I have firsthand knowledge of it.

Not every massage therapist can earn that rate, no. But for the good ones, absolutely they can. Have a background in physiology helps. Working for other studios gives experience and insights and training. Planning (timing, resources, finances) to start your own studio (whether it be from home or renting a spot) is the next step. Building a clientele via word of mouth and social media and from your past clients from other studios brings in the business.

This isn't rocket science. Is it something everyone can do? No, but good massage therapists, like anyone in their field if they stand out, can easily make a very good income, and they do.

Note the complaint was on the word easy. You said it was easy. Not with work, knowledge and skill. No back tracking. You said easy. Easy implies anyone can do it. Not as you said "the good ones, trained, working in studios, who built clientele etc etc. That all sounds like hard work to me, not easy money.

OK, so I wasn't clear. I meant "easy" in the sense that anyone CAN do it, but there is work involved to get there. No, you will not earn $50 next month if you start your training today. It takes time and experience. What I mean by "easy" is that it does not require any special characteristic or trait that a unique person (such as super high charisma, intelligence, physicality, etc.) may have. A normal, average person can do these things. They just need to learn how and plan it out. You don't need years and years of education. You don't need thousands of dollars of startup money. You don't need tons of connections. You need only your own resolve, that is it.

[Morkonan]

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Honestly why do people keep work all these low paying jobs, those jobs don't seems to have any future, like working for $15/h vs getting an education to make like $50/h the second option is simply much better in the long term. If good jobs don't exist you should move to another area with better jobs.

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"if you're homeless just buy a house"

^-- This is a great example of illustrating what is wrong with the OP's point of view. + Internetz Pointz

[Jackie Daytona]

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Honestly why do people keep work all these low paying jobs, those jobs don't seems to have any future, like working for $15/h vs getting an education to make like $50/h the second option is simply much better in the long term. If good jobs don't exist you should move to another area with better jobs.

I used to be in college. While also working 40 hours/week at $4/hour.

Why? Because I wanted to eat and have a place to live. And no one else would hire me.