54% of Americans from ages 16-74 read below a 6th grade reading level.

[𝔈𝔩𝔊𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔬]

I don't think I've ever been more ashamed of my country being under 30, without a college education and seeing so many American's whose profession should have them retaining better language and critical thinking skills, but don't.

It's not just that the way we communicate has changed, people are beginning to not be able to decipher simple sentences.

Why do I have to break out so much childish terminology for adults?

[Ulfrinn]

Messaggio originale di Rain't:

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Sources? There was a report that claimed 46% of Americans can not read at a level 3 reading level. These reports and the department of education do not attribute grades to these levels. The writer writing the article, unscientifically attributed "level 3" to meaning 6th grade when there's nothing official making that link. There are three levels of literacy as described below. Keep in mind the study says 46% read at a level 3, about 75% attain level 2. To be completely illiterate you'd have to fail to attain level 1.

The average PIAAC score for adults 16-65 recorded last tested in 2017 was 271, which places it right at the level 2/level 3 boundary. That's well above 6th grade.

1 0-225

Adults at this level can be considered at risk for difficulties using or comprehending print material. Adults at the upper end of this level can read short texts, in print or online, and understand the meaning well enough to perform simple tasks, such as filling out a short form, but drawing inferences or combining multiple sources of text may be too difficult. Adults who are below Level 1 may only be able to understand very basic vocabulary or find very specific information on a familiar topic. Some adults below Level 1 may struggle even to do this and may be functionally illiterate.

2 226-275

Adults at this level can be considered nearing proficiency but still struggling to perform tasks with text-based information. Such adults may be able to read print and digital texts, relate multiple pieces of information within or across a couple of documents, compare and contrast, and draw simple inferences. They can navigate in a digital environment to access key information, such as finding two main benefits of one product over another. However, more complex inferencing and evaluation may be too difficult.

3 276+

Adults at this level can be considered proficient at working with information and ideas in texts. Their higher literacy skills range from the ability to understand, interpret, and synthesize information across multiple, complex texts to the ability to evaluate the reliability of sources and infer sophisticated meanings and complex ideas from written sources.

A wall of text means nothing when you don't grasp context. They're talking about school grades- y'know, like K-12?

The study referenced by the op-ed never mentioned grades.

...maybe you need to get your reading proficiency up?

[Rain't]

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Messaggio originale di Rain't:

A wall of text means nothing when you don't grasp context. They're talking about school grades- y'know, like K-12?

The study referenced by the op-ed never mentioned grades.

...maybe you need to get your reading proficiency up?

I'll never understand how people can be so confidently wrong

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now

[Ulfrinn]

Messaggio originale di Rain't:

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

The study referenced by the op-ed never mentioned grades.

...maybe you need to get your reading proficiency up?

I'll never understand how people can be so confidently wrong

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now

Well, because we can actually read and understand what we're reading. And none of that is source information but someone's interpretation of the data. Specifically a Gallup analysis of the data funded by the Barbara Bush Foundation, you know, if you actually read deeper into it.

It's based on data found at the National Center for Education Statistics' Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies studies.. Which is where I got the information above that you refused to read. Because reading, comprehending, and understanding the source information is too much work it seems, you want to hear some pundit tell you what to think about it all.

Here you go.

https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/national_results.asp

[Rain't]

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Messaggio originale di Rain't:

I'll never understand how people can be so confidently wrong

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now

Well, because we can actually read and understand what we're reading. And none of that is source information but someone's interpretation of the data. Specifically a Gallup analysis of the data funded by the Barbara Bush Foundation, you know, if you actually read deeper into it.

It's based on data found at the National Center for Education Statistics' Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies studies.. Which is where I got the information above that you refused to read. Because reading, comprehending, and understanding the source information is too much work it seems, you want to hear some pundit tell you what to think about it all.

Here you go.

https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/national_results.asp

You can't even be bothered to read the dating- I'm gonna stop talking with you because you're clearly incapable of admitting you made a mistake. This data is from 2017- literally 7 years ago

[smokerob79]

you mean the country that forgot "freedom of religion" means i am free of your religion???.....oh wait they want the 10 commandments in schools when they wont even list the real 10......oops my bad.....

[Dom]

Yeah, it is sometimes frustrating that complex ideas have to be navigated through simplistic language because otherwise you're either misunderstood or people don't understand you at all. Very understandable problem that is.

What is worth acknowledging is that low literacy rates are often linked to broader social issues. We're then talking about poverty, lack of access to quality education and systemic inequalities that exist, which all contribute to that issue. So it's not just enough that education is improved by itself, there would also be an effort made to address the underlying factors.

[Othobrithol]

This is what you get when education funding is primarily derived from local economic conditions. The poor stay poor and uneducated. I'm not saying it is by design, but it surely plays into the desires of the folks balking at the property tax on their third home.

[Ulfrinn]

Messaggio originale di Rain't:

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Well, because we can actually read and understand what we're reading. And none of that is source information but someone's interpretation of the data. Specifically a Gallup analysis of the data funded by the Barbara Bush Foundation, you know, if you actually read deeper into it.

It's based on data found at the National Center for Education Statistics' Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies studies.. Which is where I got the information above that you refused to read. Because reading, comprehending, and understanding the source information is too much work it seems, you want to hear some pundit tell you what to think about it all.

Here you go.

https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/national_results.asp

You can't even be bothered to read the dating- I'm gonna stop talking with you because you're clearly incapable of admitting you made a mistake. This data is from 2017- literally 7 years ago

Yes, the data is from 7 years ago, and that is the data Gallup used. Your point? Gallup's "study" was reading that exact piece of 7 year old data.

[Uncle Sam]

Sounds like the system is working as intended, or that this "bug" is seen as a feature by some in the upper echelons. After all the more naive or dumb or in poor mental health state or poor general health one is, aka being close to rock bottom; the easier to exploit for profit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Heatblizzard]

Messaggio originale di Devsman:

Every time I hear "you did good" I wanna punch some holes in some paper.

I guess Miss Mouse (TM) would make you gouge your eyes out. https://www.myabandonware.com/game/the-story-of-miss-mouse-jkw my first compute game pretty dorky today but interesting for back then. It's pretty colorful for that early of computers at least on the Commodore 64 it was very tolerable. This version is gross! Glad I never played it!! 😝🤢🤮🤮🤮I would've gouged my eyes out and been blind.

[Heatblizzard]

Messaggio originale di Uncle Sam:

Sounds like the system is working as intended, or that this "bug" is seen as a feature by some in the upper echelons. After all the more naive or dumb or in poor mental health state or poor general health one is, aka being close to rock bottom; the easier to exploit for profit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder if that's why a lot of asylums shuttered then all the severely handicapped people were forced to fend for themselves out on the streets now we have lots of nutcase crimes skyrocketing. Weird............

[h]

Geroge Bush was gonna teach kids to read right

[Good Night Owl]

I finally have my chance to post this link, hell yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

[Heatblizzard]

I think the 'conservatives' online are way different then offline as most IRL are pretty cool and have lots of insight and personal experiences in different levels yet online they act like the stereotypes the media makes them out to be which raises a ton of 🟥🟥🟥

[Heatblizzard]

Messaggio originale di T:

Geroge Bush was gonna teach kids to read right

Doesn't matter jack what he wants. The schools want their own thing and will just squander any money/attempts otherwise and they have and I think he realizes it too as he never mentioned it since he tried and failed.
We can't afford updated textbooks but somehow can afford a fancy new stadium with park lights then wonder why the old high school is falling apart and has serious structure issues forcing a new school.etc.