Is success a form of bigotry?

[Caldari Ghost]

Should we ban success?

[SHAZBOT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp2Ozqq5wyE

[Raelic]

We can get deep on this one.

I feel like today's society gives losers too much value and too broad of a platform. Every competition has a loser. And every loser looks for a reason they lost. And haters are plentiful.

And they now have a platform to complain and twist reality.

I don't think success is bigotry. I think people use the word to make themselves feel better when they aren't the ones succeeding.

[Xero_Daxter]

Let’s say I worked hard at my job and made my way up the latter. Now I’m making 500,000 dollars a year after tax.

Why should I be punished or shamed for working hard and earning my position?

[Professor]

What is success? material, spiritual or something other? it really depends on who defines success, what lens are you looking through?

Success or failure would seem to be a measure of satisfaction. Our satisfactions are different & the determination to be satisfied or not comes down to our own individual understanding of what is comfortable or not.

Dollars or sense cents is the question that is most prevalent in our lives? money money money, or a delicate balance with other things? I guess for those that have a choice between financially happy or not & or spiritually happy, does become the real measure for a type of supposedly balanced success.

Money, love, companionship & everything in between. A fragile complexity of what is more comfortable or not. What is success & the multitude of possibilities for a happy, safe & fulfilling life?

[Apollo702]

Living well is the best form of revenge.

Long ago when people were lousy to me I refused things like bar fights and other low IQ methods.

Instead it inspired me to do things like go out and make real money, get to the gym and get more pumped up than everyone, get a nicer house, show up with hotter women...

And to heck with lesser people. After a while when one amps one's life up enough the other people don't even matter so much. Get caught up in enough goodness and they can fade into the background.

At that point one can just live well and savor the goodness!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2994355682

[DoomsDay]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Apollo702:

Living well is the best form of revenge.

Long ago when people were lousy to me I refused things like bar fights and other low IQ methods.

Instead it inspired me to do things like go out and make real money, get to the gym and get more pumped up than everyone, get a nicer house, show up with hotter women...

And to heck with lesser people. After a while when one amps one's life up enough the other people don't even matter so much. Get caught up in enough goodness and they can fade into the background.

At that point one can just live well and savor the goodness!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2994355682

[ulia]

Ableism would be the closest tie to success being "bigotry", though it is the means through which you express it that could constitute oppression, not success itself.

[Caldari Ghost]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Professor:

What is success? material, spiritual or something other? it really depends on who defines success, what lens are you looking through?

success, the concept

[brain stew]

I know this may come as a complete surprise, but being successful and being humble are not mutually exclusive, those types do exist. Probably more rare, but of course those are the ones you aren't gonna be talking about, because they're not out here taking every chance they get to make others aware of it.

Plus, online a lot of people seem to over embellish their success stories.

[Magic A. I.]

Huh. It turned out to be an interesting thread thanks to the comments. After reading them, I'd like to reframe the OP question in this way: "Should losers punish all who are not losers for not being losers?" And the answer is that humanity been doing it forever already, since way before they even invented the word "bigotry". The irony however is that the very act of punishing those who are different for being different is bigotry.

Also, people with more money should pay more taxes. It's not about punishment it's about being helpful to the society you live in. If you don't want to be helpful than by the core capitalist ideals, you shouldn't have the money either since having them in a capitalist economy is supposed to represent how useful to the society the person in question is. If you are rich and produce or provide nothing, then it's not a capitalist kind of success, it's a criminal one.

And like wise people said before, having money, nice house, physical attributes etc. doesn't necessarily mean success. You can have all that and still be a loser inside.

[sleeps]

how does that even work?

[NoticedAlarm]

If I worked years upon years, getting higher roles in the company and getting higher pay, building a successful financial life. Why would I be bigoted for working hard for a good life?

[Not Big Surprise]

what

[Faiyez]

Opprinnelig skrevet av sleeps:

how does that even work?

Being successful implicates that you marginalize and opress those who are unwilling or unable to. It makes sense.

[Not Big Surprise]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Faiyez:

Opprinnelig skrevet av sleeps:

how does that even work?

Being successful implicates that you marginalize and opress those who are unwilling or unable to. It makes sense.

no? success in itself doesn't imply the failure of others, unless your metric of success requires that others fail

there is a problem, however, if your success does come at the cost of underpaying employees for instance