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Gen Z Army?
Do you think it's possible to militarize Gen Z or will they dodge the draft if conscription becomes law?

https://youtu.be/2PBDr7vhx6U?si=DbrKzf8Kjs6FnGeu
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Let me ask you this.

Do you think academic institutions in the UK have succeeded in making a skilled workforce?
Let me ask you this.

Is a person who has a brain going so "sacrifice" their life just for an apprenticeship?

Things were different for me, 2008 I joined, 2011 I left.

I was not bought up with the internet, my family was poor and abusive, I fell into the trap of the Army being not just an escape from the streets but like a welcoming family too, I had energy and an ego.

The reality of it was the complete opposite.

Glad it's gone, learned my lesson.

Nothing will ever change my mind, thank you.

What do you propose? What plan does Starmer have to train and discipline the youth?

What if you wake up one morning and China have invaded Taiwan? Our youth are unskilled and untrained to deal with a war and the pensioners certainly aren't going to fight.
Skkooomer Lord 5. juni 2024 kl. 5:27 
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Let me ask you this.

Is a person who has a brain going so "sacrifice" their life just for an apprenticeship?

Things were different for me, 2008 I joined, 2011 I left.

I was not bought up with the internet, my family was poor and abusive, I fell into the trap of the Army being not just an escape from the streets but like a welcoming family too, I had energy and an ego.

The reality of it was the complete opposite.

Glad it's gone, learned my lesson.

Nothing will ever change my mind, thank you.

What do you propose? What plan does Starmer have to train and discipline the youth?

What if you wake up one morning and China have invaded Taiwan? Our youth are unskilled and untrained to deal with a war and the pensioners certainly aren't going to fight.
No one needs disciplining or training, I am fully for the idea that I am willing to die with my own mind, I don't give a flying fcuk,.
Sidst redigeret af Skkooomer Lord; 5. juni 2024 kl. 5:28
Skkooomer Lord 5. juni 2024 kl. 5:28 
If you want real change and a lack of war, stop going to war. We all die anyway.
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What do you propose? What plan does Starmer have to train and discipline the youth?

What if you wake up one morning and China have invaded Taiwan? Our youth are unskilled and untrained to deal with a war and the pensioners certainly aren't going to fight.
No one needs disciplining or training, I am fully for the idea that I am willing to die with my own mind, I don't give a flying fcuk,.

You were in the military and while not everything was handed to you on a silver platter when you left the services, you aren't in prison or a drug den which may be true for some of the others who grew up on the estate.
Skkooomer Lord 5. juni 2024 kl. 5:31 
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No one needs disciplining or training, I am fully for the idea that I am willing to die with my own mind, I don't give a flying fcuk,.

You were in the military and while not everything was handed to you on a silver platter when you left the services, you aren't in prison or a drug den which may be true for some of the others who grew up on the estate.


I still do not care, go fight then, stop telling others to fight for you, really, fully, literally, no fcuks to give.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0
replika 5. juni 2024 kl. 5:45 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Arvaos:
Do you think it's possible to militarize Gen Z or will they dodge the draft if conscription becomes law?

https://youtu.be/2PBDr7vhx6U?si=DbrKzf8Kjs6FnGeu
people haven’t learned from gallipoli or Vietnam, I see, don’t draft young people, the aus and nz military already have learned that lesson.
Hobbit XIII 5. juni 2024 kl. 6:02 
I think when Luxembourg could kick Spain's ass it shows that Spain needs to up its game off the forums and into the gyms.
76561199572171423 5. juni 2024 kl. 6:05 
Oprindeligt skrevet af MenacinglyBumble:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Arvaos:

You were in the military and while not everything was handed to you on a silver platter when you left the services, you aren't in prison or a drug den which may be true for some of the others who grew up on the estate.


I still do not care, go fight then, stop telling others to fight for you, really, fully, literally, no fcuks to give.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0
i like that idea. We should just draft Avraos so he'll quit making these threads
Oprindeligt skrevet af MenacinglyBumble:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Arvaos:

You were in the military and while not everything was handed to you on a silver platter when you left the services, you aren't in prison or a drug den which may be true for some of the others who grew up on the estate.


I still do not care, go fight then, stop telling others to fight for you, really, fully, literally, no fcuks to give.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0

It's Sunak that has made a vow to conscription.

It's a bold move but what do you and Starmer propose?
Hobbit XIII 5. juni 2024 kl. 6:49 
Gen Z going to war with Gibraltar seems to have been encouraged from the Spanish government.
Anybody else remember that play of the Spanish killing the people of Gibraltar not so long ago as a school play?
Hobbit XIII 5. juni 2024 kl. 6:51 
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I still do not care, go fight then, stop telling others to fight for you, really, fully, literally, no fcuks to give.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0

It's Sunak that has made a vow to conscription.

It's a bold move but what do you and Starmer propose?

A vow?

I am not looking at that link but it was a choice about paid National Service for a year in the army or having the opportunity to volunteer a weekend every month with police, NHS, fire service and maybe social care.
Defenestration 5. juni 2024 kl. 6:52 
There's nothing to fight for, a draft will never happen, so I guess that's one benefit on having a culturally degenerating country.
Xero_Daxter 5. juni 2024 kl. 7:34 
Drafting isn’t good for moral. Imagine a platoon filled with motivated and dedicated soldiers who joined willingly “verses” a platoon filled with conscripts who don’t want to be there in the first place.

Quality Soldiers > Quantity Soldiers
AdahnGorion 5. juni 2024 kl. 7:50 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xero_Daxter:
Drafting isn’t good for moral. Imagine a platoon filled with motivated and dedicated soldiers who joined willingly “verses” a platoon filled with conscripts who don’t want to be there in the first place.

Quality Soldiers > Quantity Soldiers

If only that was true.

Better tech/equipment > more soldiers

But that is as far as I would go
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