Gen Z Army?

[サイボーグ忍者]

Do you think it's possible to militarize Gen Z or will they dodge the draft if conscription becomes law?

https://youtu.be/2PBDr7vhx6U?si=DbrKzf8Kjs6FnGeu

[Skkooomer Lord]

I am milennial and ex army, I won't fight either.

[Xero_Daxter]

Arvaos a écrit :

Xero_Daxter a écrit :

Conscription isn’t a good idea. If you draft me I’m gonna go buck wild on this whole operation.

In the Ukraine, it's either the frontlines or ten years in the slammer.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

[サイボーグ忍者]

Ganger a écrit :

Arvaos a écrit :

Would you choose to go to prison over conscription?

I have never faced such a choice yet, I don't know what I would do. It takes a brave man to stand up for what he believes in and ultimately face the consequences of his actions.

History is full of brave men who stood up against the system and suffered the consequences. Im I brave enough to stand amount them ? I don't know, I really don't know ?

It's also a character and skill building exercise as Sunak mentioned.

You can learn a trade in the army too and there's also lodgings and food for those that are conscripted.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Arvaos a écrit :

Ganger a écrit :

I have never faced such a choice yet, I don't know what I would do. It takes a brave man to stand up for what he believes in and ultimately face the consequences of his actions.

History is full of brave men who stood up against the system and suffered the consequences. Im I brave enough to stand amount them ? I don't know, I really don't know ?

It's also a character and skill building exercise as Sunak mentioned.

You can learn a trade in the army too and there's also lodgings and food for those that are conscripted.

It's a load of BS, you get paid what you could get stacking shelves in ALDI.

[サイボーグ忍者]

Dom a écrit :

I think that once Gen Z takes over the political system, there will be world peace. If you look at the reasons for the wider conflicts, they have to do with the aged leaders, dictators and traditionalism.

The sad reality is that currently in conflict zones across the world, young adults are fighting wars over the conflicts of older people and their stagnant values and world views.

For instance, it's not president Putin or people of his age fighting on the battleground.

Remember the liberals in the sixties?

They became conservative boomers as they aged.

[Xero_Daxter]

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

Arvaos a écrit :

It's also a character and skill building exercise as Sunak mentioned.

You can learn a trade in the army too and there's also lodgings and food for those that are conscripted.

It's a load of BS, you get paid what you could get stacking shelves in ALDI.

Fun fact but a lot of military vets don’t get the help and support they need. Unless you retired as a high ranking NCO or Officer you’re basically screwed especially in the Marine Corps. A lot of them end up homeless.

[λnomaly ⚛]

They'd make a wicked future army. I think boots-on-the-ground soldiers would be outnumbered by AI entities whether drones or some form of primitive robotic soldier or machine.

Gen Z would be excellent at controlling and programming these entities

As a millennial, if millennial had an army we'd be ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not gonna lie.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Xero_Daxter a écrit :

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

It's a load of BS, you get paid what you could get stacking shelves in ALDI.

Fun fact but a lot of military vets don’t get the help and support they need. Unless you retired as a high ranking NCO or Officer you’re basically screwed especially in the Marine Corps. A lot of them end up homeless.

I know, I was honourably discharged despite going AWOL for issues with my mother having cancer and the prick of a demanding I stick around to do an Afghan tour. I did 3 months MCTC, I asked to be let go rather than carry on.

I think it was because I had no track record of issues whilst in.

Still, I would rather work for Wetherspoons or ALDI before I do a job for our country like that again, it's all bollox, filled with scum from my own experience too.

I also refuse to give back to a country who gives no fcks about any of us but the top class.

LMAO, get trained.. you are trained on specific things, the rest is just brainwashing you into a servant to be used as a tool who no one gives two fcks about with a false sense of being "heroic".

ALDI and Wetherspoons at least feeds people.

[サイボーグ忍者]

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

Arvaos a écrit :

It's also a character and skill building exercise as Sunak mentioned.

You can learn a trade in the army too and there's also lodgings and food for those that are conscripted.

It's a load of BS, you get paid what you could get stacking shelves in ALDI.

https://jobs.army.mod.uk/regular-army/what-you-get/apprenticeships-skills/

Show me the comprehensive list of ALDI apprenticeships.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Arvaos a écrit :

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

It's a load of BS, you get paid what you could get stacking shelves in ALDI.

https://jobs.army.mod.uk/regular-army/what-you-get/apprenticeships-skills/

Show me the comprehensive list of ALDI apprenticeships.

Show us the pay.

[サイボーグ忍者]

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

Xero_Daxter a écrit :

Fun fact but a lot of military vets don’t get the help and support they need. Unless you retired as a high ranking NCO or Officer you’re basically screwed especially in the Marine Corps. A lot of them end up homeless.

I know, I was honourably discharged despite going AWOL for issues with my mother having cancer and the prick of a demanding I stick around to do an Afghan tour. I did 3 months MCTC, I asked to be let go rather than carry on.

I think it was because I had no track record of issues whilst in.

Still, I would rather work for Wetherspoons or ALDI before I do a job for our country like that again, it's all bollox, filled with scum from my own experience too.

I also refuse to give back to a country who gives no fcks about any of us but the top class.

ALDI and Wetherspoons at least feeds people.

It's not like that anymore.

Sunak has a comprehensive plan to get those leaving the armed forces back into work.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Arvaos a écrit :

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

I know, I was honourably discharged despite going AWOL for issues with my mother having cancer and the prick of a demanding I stick around to do an Afghan tour. I did 3 months MCTC, I asked to be let go rather than carry on.

I think it was because I had no track record of issues whilst in.

Still, I would rather work for Wetherspoons or ALDI before I do a job for our country like that again, it's all bollox, filled with scum from my own experience too.

I also refuse to give back to a country who gives no fcks about any of us but the top class.

ALDI and Wetherspoons at least feeds people.

It's not like that anymore.

Sunak has a comprehensive plan to get those leaving the summer forces back into work.

I do not care, I trust my experiences.

[サイボーグ忍者]

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

Arvaos a écrit :

It's not like that anymore.

Sunak has a comprehensive plan to get those leaving the armed forces back into work.

I do not care, I trust my experiences.

Let me ask you this.

Do you think academic institutions in the UK have succeeded in making a skilled workforce?

[Skkooomer Lord]

Arvaos a écrit :

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

I do not care, I trust my experiences.

Let me ask you this.

Do you think academic institutions in the UK have succeeded in making a skilled workforce?

Let me ask you this.

Is a person who has a brain going so "sacrifice" their life just for an apprenticeship?

Things were different for me, 2008 I joined, 2011 I left.

I was not bought up with the internet, my family was poor and abusive, I fell into the trap of the Army being not just an escape from the streets but like a welcoming family too, I had energy and an ego.

The reality of it was the complete opposite.

Glad it's gone, learned my lesson.

Nothing will ever change my mind, thank you.

[Skkooomer Lord]

dicc'ead a écrit :

MenacinglyBumble a écrit :

I do not care, I trust my experiences.

Ah yes, hubris.

Baby boomers are also extremely experienced but lack almost any skills socially, physically, introspectively, etc.

Good ol' "I've been doing this for years and still suck but I think I'm the best at it" hubris.

Your ego is what propels you.