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Stakanov 2024년 5월 30일 오전 12시 13분
Neil Armstrong calling the president from the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLyJ9FHDO-c&t=118s

54 years ago, technology was already more advanced than it is today :lukasLaugh:

The most hilarious part is when the astronauts who took part in the Apollo mission were given a conference afterwards.
From the start of the conference, they've had a cold look on their faces, like they're not happy to have been the first humans to go to the moon...
The moment when the journalist asks what it's like to go to the moon and sees their reactions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI&t=3113s

Apollo Guidance Computer:
- 24000 transistors
- 1 MHz
- 4ko of RAM clocked at 85kHz
- 72kb ROM

PHILIPS ONEBLADE electric shaver
- 65000 transistors, i.e. almost 3x more complex
- 64 MHz, 64x faster
- 4kb of RAM at 64MHz, 752x faster
- 64kb ROM, equivalent program size

People who don't question the fact that we've managed to pilot a rocket with less computing power than is found in an electric razor.

SITUATION 1:
I call my aunt in Sicily: communication encounters difficulties

SITUATION 2:
Nixon calls an astronaut from a distance 5 times greater than this: the video call encounters no technical problems

________________

- I've been to the Moon :bern:
- Oh, yeah? How did you do it? :battler:
- I don't know :bern:
- What do you mean you don't know? Didn't you keep any recordings? :ushilionemo:
- No, I lost them :bern:
- Did you lose the recordings of the greatest feat in the history of mankind? :battler:
- Yes :bern:
- OK... well, it doesn't matter, you must have brought back other evidence, right? :ushilionemo:
- Yes, here's a moon rock :bern:
- Wait a minute, your moon rock is made of wood, how come? :battler:
- I don't know :bern:
- well it doesn't matter, at worst you can do it again, can't you? :ushilionemo:
- No :bern:
- Why not? :battler:
- I don't know how to do it anymore, and it's expensive, and it's useless :bern:
- I see. Are you sure you've been to the Moon? :ushilionemo:
- What do you mean, are you sure? Do you doubt what I'm saying? :bern:
- Well, excuse me, but you're telling me something extraordinary, you've got no proof, you can't do it again, and you're known to have lied about a few important things in the past: Pearl Harbor, Tonkin Bay, Timisoara, the Kuwaiti incubators... :ushilionemo:
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Shadow 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 03분 
I am skeptical when it comes to the moon landing, but the Soviets on the other hand sent a lander to Venus that took images of the surface of that planet so even back then technology did exist to send stuff into outer space.
Under there 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 05분 
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Fun fact: Even the soviet union didn't dispute the fact that the moon landings happened.
fun fact: its a big club and you're not in it
Arkham99 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 07분 
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
I am skeptical when it comes to the moon landing, but the Soviets on the other hand sent a lander to Venus that took images of the surface of that planet so even back then technology did exist to send stuff into outer space.
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)
RÆ/>15T 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 09분 
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
I am skeptical when it comes to the moon landing, but the Soviets on the other hand sent a lander to Venus that took images of the surface of that planet so even back then technology did exist to send stuff into outer space.
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)
Even in the 60s, we knew how to shield organic matter from radiation. Moon hoax schizos are a funny bunch.
Shadow 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 11분 
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
I am skeptical when it comes to the moon landing, but the Soviets on the other hand sent a lander to Venus that took images of the surface of that planet so even back then technology did exist to send stuff into outer space.
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)

I agree which is why I mentioned before that I don't fully believe in the moon landing. I am highly skeptical.
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Original Cast Recording 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 11분 
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
I am skeptical when it comes to the moon landing, but the Soviets on the other hand sent a lander to Venus that took images of the surface of that planet so even back then technology did exist to send stuff into outer space.
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)

Yeah, surviving and getting back to Earth is more unbelievable than landing on the moon. It's not that far away.
Arkham99 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 15분 
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)
Even in the 60s, we knew how to shield organic matter from radiation. Moon hoax schizos are a funny bunch.
the Van Allen Belts were discovered in the late 50's... "discovered" as in the instruments on the probe all dropped to zero for they weren't designed to take measurements of the environment which was so extreme... the region wasn't accurately measured until the 70's Skylab project, yet you maintain that "we knew how to shield organic matter from radiation"?... they still lack a simulated environment on Earth to even test such possibilities...:-)
Shadow 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 18분 
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Even in the 60s, we knew how to shield organic matter from radiation. Moon hoax schizos are a funny bunch.
the Van Allen Belts were discovered in the late 50's... "discovered" as in the instruments on the probe all dropped to zero for they weren't designed to take measurements of the environment which was so extreme... the region wasn't accurately measured until the 70's Skylab project, yet you maintain that "we knew how to shield organic matter from radiation"?... they still lack a simulated environment on Earth to even test such possibilities...:-)

The one thing I loved about the Soviets, they didn't "fake" any of their space endeavours.

If the moon landing is false, big shame to America.
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RÆ/>15T 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 20분 
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
sending "stuff" into space isn't the same as transporting organic life into space...:-)

I agree which is why I mentioned before that I don't fully believe in the moon landing. I am highly skeptical.
The Apollo astronauts spent a very short amount of time in the Van Allen belts, and were also shielded. The Van Allen belts aren't intense enough to cause any serious harm.
Arkham99 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 24분 
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:

I agree which is why I mentioned before that I don't fully believe in the moon landing. I am highly skeptical.
The Apollo astronauts spent a very short amount of time in the Van Allen belts, and were also shielded. The Van Allen belts aren't intense enough to cause any serious harm.
lol... they would've had to have spent several hours in them if they'd accomplished a return trip... sorry but we're bound to this Earth until we solve this problem... they wouldn't have lasted one second in this environment wearing them Halloween costumes...:-)
Shadow 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 27분 
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:

I agree which is why I mentioned before that I don't fully believe in the moon landing. I am highly skeptical.
The Apollo astronauts spent a very short amount of time in the Van Allen belts, and were also shielded. The Van Allen belts aren't intense enough to cause any serious harm.

The moon landing was most likely fake and was only done to rub it in the faces of the Soviets. It was all about ego not space endeavours.
RÆ/>15T 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 28분 
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
The Apollo astronauts spent a very short amount of time in the Van Allen belts, and were also shielded. The Van Allen belts aren't intense enough to cause any serious harm.
lol... they would've had to have spent several hours in them if they'd accomplished a return trip... sorry but we're bound to this Earth until we solve this problem... they wouldn't have lasted one second in this environment wearing them Halloween costumes...:-)
The Apollo astronauts spent less than 20 minutes within the Van Allen belt. Over all, the radiation dosage they received was well within the legal limits that a nuclear facility worker can be legally exposed to within the United States. Multiple lunar probes, even from countries with a considerable hostility to the US, have confirmed time and time again that the Apollo missions actually happened.
mrunuick 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 29분 
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
The Apollo astronauts spent a very short amount of time in the Van Allen belts, and were also shielded. The Van Allen belts aren't intense enough to cause any serious harm.

The moon landing was most likely fake and was only done to rub it in the faces of the Soviets. It was all about ego not space endeavours.
Why wouldn't the Soviets call the US out on a lie of it was fake?
Shadow 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 31분 
♥deadlockwaitingroom♥님이 먼저 게시:
Arkham99님이 먼저 게시:
lol... they would've had to have spent several hours in them if they'd accomplished a return trip... sorry but we're bound to this Earth until we solve this problem... they wouldn't have lasted one second in this environment wearing them Halloween costumes...:-)
The Apollo astronauts spent less than 20 minutes within the Van Allen belt. Over all, the radiation dosage they received was well within the legal limits that a nuclear facility worker can be legally exposed to within the United States. Multiple lunar probes, even from countries with a considerable hostility to the US, have confirmed time and time again that the Apollo missions actually happened.

Venera is more believable than the moon landing.
Arkham99 2024년 6월 3일 오전 10시 31분 
Shadow님이 먼저 게시:
The moon landing was most likely fake and was only done to rub it in the faces of the Soviets. It was all about ego not space endeavours
the Soviets were winning the Space Race, hands down... between the early 1960's and mid-70's, the Soviets launched into space using a little known Space Vehicle named 'Cosmos' almost weekly... it was a small vehicle that sat ontop of a rocket and could be flown manned, or unmanned... there were over 1500 launches in that time... no big News Splash, just doing the work required to advance the Space Race...:-)
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