Are our European friends getting drafted ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXtIYfaAJ9w

That's France 24, a bonafiide news agency.

That's what we're seeing on American tv. And the French, who cut pensions, raised retirement ages, yellow vest movements, caused mass riots, and yet, they'll settle for conscription.

Italy and Germany, with their history?

I told folks about this Ukraine, and that if you keep cheering the effort, the government would take advantage, and you were going to go yourself.

I hope it's not true, but the fuels of war continue. The young having to die, for the old.

Awful. I wish you luck.
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Groogo 29. Mai 2024 um 12:55 
Poland is talking about sending troops to the Ukraine.
A&A 29. Mai 2024 um 12:58 
Do you even know which countries have national military service?

Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Greece and Turkey.

And where is the rest of Europe?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von A&A:
Do you even know which countries have national military service?

Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Greece and Turkey.

And where is the rest of Europe?

These even have plenty of ways to either skip or delay the service.
Ie. if you are studying, then you can just delay it and if you are done to late, then you skip due to age. Service is also more like training and in some places as low as 6 months.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:
Are you americans getting drafted?

Not a hope in hell lol. Our voters are not for Ukraine or Israel. It may be different by you though, which is why this article was likely done by France 24.
Then I wonder why a couple monts ago americans were all over social networks crying over how they would not consent being drafted because this and that. Was quite amusing
A&A 29. Mai 2024 um 13:11 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von AdahnGorion:
These even have plenty of ways to either skip or delay the service.
Ie. if you are studying, then you can just delay it and if you are done to late, then you skip due to age. Service is also more like training and in some places as low as 6 months.
No wonder. It was the same in Bulgaria. After high school you want to go to university to skip 2 years of military service.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Not a hope in hell lol. Our voters are not for Ukraine or Israel. It may be different by you though, which is why this article was likely done by France 24.
Then I wonder why a couple monts ago americans were all over social networks crying over how they would not consent being drafted because this and that. Was quite amusing

If we ever went to a draft over these matters, we'd likely have a national security issue based more on that, then even our adversary. And so, no, that'll never happen.

But in Europe they're scared to death of this Putin, so it seems, and if they are, they'll go to conscription. I think it's awful. But they have to vote them out, IF they don't feel the same. But maybe they do. Best of luck Tito.
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None of this would be happening if we just let Patton do his thing...
So far so good in Spain.
Kind of.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Not a hope in hell lol. Our voters are not for Ukraine or Israel. It may be different by you though, which is why this article was likely done by France 24.
Then I wonder why a couple monts ago americans were all over social networks crying over how they would not consent being drafted because this and that. Was quite amusing
Because people post a lot of dumb takes on social media? This isnt new, are you surprised?

Only about half of americans even use social media. You understand how social media works right? Why would you even make that point?

"some americans on social media are against a draft"... Yeah, i bet some are, whats your point?

Either way, the citizens of usa are better armed than their own military. Draft or not, they will all do whatever it takes to protect their own family and property from anything or anyone.

The founding fathers were way ahead of their time and had it figured out early.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zef Davenport:
So far so good in Spain.
Kind of.
Not even hitler wanted spain...
Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:
But in Europe they're scared to death of this Putin, so it seems
You really need to change your news sources.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Intelligent Jew Businessman:
Not even hitler wanted spain...
We had a Hitler simp as a dictator. Why bother. Hitler did in fact help Franco during the Spanish civil war. (maybe the name of Gernika rings a bell)
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:
But in Europe they're scared to death of this Putin, so it seems
You really need to change your news sources.

Well it seems Tito, i'm not the one at risk here. This is Frances own news station. If you can't believe them, who should you believe? Valve? Lol.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:
You really need to change your news sources.

Well it seems Tito, i'm not the one at risk here. This is Frances own news station. If you can't believe them, who should you believe? Valve? Lol.
Trust the disgraced vmods. Lol
Western europeans are not going to be soldiers...

UK's Sunak mumbled something about national service which means the Tories are not on program and the script now calls for Tony Blair's crew.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von nagu_al:
Western europeans are not going to be soldiers...

UK's Sunak mumbled something about national service which means the Tories are not on program and the script now calls for Tony Blair's crew.

Right, i saw Sunak in trouble, but Starmer seems not much better on these issues.

Though he may not get an overall majority, the Lib Dems may have a say.

That'll end any talk of national service over there i would think, and given George Galloways influence, a non starter. But that's the UK, not Italy, Germany, or others. And Macron has been talking about an EU Military for awhile.
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