Are our European friends getting drafted ?

[xBCxRangers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXtIYfaAJ9w

That's France 24, a bonafiide news agency.

That's what we're seeing on American tv. And the French, who cut pensions, raised retirement ages, yellow vest movements, caused mass riots, and yet, they'll settle for conscription.

Italy and Germany, with their history?

I told folks about this Ukraine, and that if you keep cheering the effort, the government would take advantage, and you were going to go yourself.

I hope it's not true, but the fuels of war continue. The young having to die, for the old.

Awful. I wish you luck.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

Stingray_tm a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

As a canadian, i fully agree with you. But the outcome of american-less nato is deveststing to the rest of the world, including canada. Its going to be a wild ride if trump wins this november and i think the rest of the world, including my canada, needs this huge reality check.

The issue is: You might want to disengage from Ukraine. But that doesn't mean that China and Russia will disengage from the US and US interests.

Trump is going to use this to disengage from nato itself, and when that happens, the whole free world, as we know it, will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Good luck.

[Stingray_tm]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

Stingray_tm a écrit :

The issue is: You might want to disengage from Ukraine. But that doesn't mean that China and Russia will disengage from the US and US interests.

Trump is going to use this to disengage from nato itself, and when that happens, the whole free world, as we know it, will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Good luck.

I completely agree.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

As a canadian, i fully agree with you. But the outcome of american-less nato is deveststing to the rest of the world, including canada. Its going to be a wild ride if trump wins this november and i think the rest of the world, including my canada, needs this huge reality check.

I think we can make a bet Canada will be protected, NATO or no NATO. You're on our border.

In fact, if i were you i wouldn't pay dime into NATO. When Trump comes in, have Trudeau tell him the answer is ZERO % of GDP to NATO. I mean what's he gonna do, let Canada get attacked right on our border. That'll never happen.

Trudeau, and all of canadas past leaders since ww2 have already been neglecting our military. Our military os essentially nothing. I hope you are right about usa still protecting us due to the border, but who knows with trump.

Also, trudeau is done in a year and a half. We will have a new conservstive leader taking over and hopefully he will better cooperste with trump and invest more into our own military so trump feels less like a babysitter snd more like an ally.

[kilésengati]

In Germany, there is talk about un-suspending conscription.
Military officials and experts were very clear that with modern weapons systems conscription is futile and really just a drag on the professional military. There is also talk about activating about a million or so reserve personnel - which we really can't pay nor equip anyway.

In reality, they don't care about conscription nor reservists, but want to exploit cheap and back-breaking labour from young people through civil service and dispatching reservists for infrastructure works - in the case of conscripts at the cost of civil rights. These people used to be a cheap sources of labour for the entire medical and caretaking industry, and anyone could apply to get one as long as their business fell in some arbitrary category of serving the common good or some stuff like that.

Talk like this typically comes from the same politicians that basically want to abolish workers rights to boost the economy. Nothing more than corpo-gov slave drivers.

[Swarmfly]

Everyone hawks for war until they are drafted to die in it.

[Stingray_tm]

Swarmfly a écrit :

Everyone hawks for war until they are drafted to die in it.

But nobody is being drafted to die in this war. (Other than Ukrainians and Russians).

[xBCxRangers]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

I think we can make a bet Canada will be protected, NATO or no NATO. You're on our border.

In fact, if i were you i wouldn't pay dime into NATO. When Trump comes in, have Trudeau tell him the answer is ZERO % of GDP to NATO. I mean what's he gonna do, let Canada get attacked right on our border. That'll never happen.

Trudeau, and all of canadas past leaders since ww2 have already been neglecting our military. Our military os essentially nothing. I hope you are right about usa still protecting us due to the border, but who knows with trump.

Also, trudeau is done in a year and a half. We will have a new conservstive leader taking over and hopefully he will better cooperste with trump and invest more into our own military so trump feels less like a babysitter snd more like an ally.

Well, again, you don't bother anyone. He should neglect the military, and help you. As i said, you're protected.

There is no President that will allow a foreign adversary on our border. That's not gonna happen.

And so i personally like Trudeau, and Canadians, and are our closest friends. That being said, you do not need NATO or militaries. Spend your money wisely. We've bankrupted ourselves on these stupid wars and tax cuts, and have nothing to show for it.

[Swarmfly]

Stingray_tm a écrit :

Swarmfly a écrit :

Everyone hawks for war until they are drafted to die in it.

But nobody is being drafted to die in this war. (Other than Ukrainians and Russians).

No guarantee things will remain as they are for the time being.

[Stingray_tm]

Swarmfly a écrit :

Stingray_tm a écrit :

But nobody is being drafted to die in this war. (Other than Ukrainians and Russians).

No guarantee things will remain as they are for the time being.

That applies to the situation without conscription as well. The only way conscripts would be involved in this war would be, if Russia directly attacks and invades the country that has those conscripts. And then you might die to Russian bombs, regardless if you are a civilian or conscript.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

Trudeau, and all of canadas past leaders since ww2 have already been neglecting our military. Our military os essentially nothing. I hope you are right about usa still protecting us due to the border, but who knows with trump.

Also, trudeau is done in a year and a half. We will have a new conservstive leader taking over and hopefully he will better cooperste with trump and invest more into our own military so trump feels less like a babysitter snd more like an ally.

Well, again, you don't bother anyone. He should neglect the military, and help you. As i said, you're protected.

There is no President that will allow a foreign adversary on our border. That's not gonna happen.

And so i personally like Trudeau, and Canadians, and are our closest friends. That being said, you do not need NATO or militaries. Spend your money wisely. We've bankrupted ourselves on these stupid wars and tax cuts, and have nothing to show for it.

I agree our alliance goes beyond nato. But I still feel we (canadians) arent contributing enough. Its just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ feeling.

[ZZZZZ]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

Europe is scared because trump is gonna win and when he does, no more free american tax dollars for ukraine to fund their war.

This video pretty much sums it up:

https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?si=jsPBBXApog7sOYrP

Euros made their bed, now they can sleep in it. Also, manadatory conscription may be good for those entitled little zoomers.

did america manage to get to 50% contribution at all by now?

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

ZZZZZ a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

Europe is scared because trump is gonna win and when he does, no more free american tax dollars for ukraine to fund their war.

This video pretty much sums it up:

https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?si=jsPBBXApog7sOYrP

Euros made their bed, now they can sleep in it. Also, manadatory conscription may be good for those entitled little zoomers.

did america manage to get to 50% contribution at all by now?

I dont think any other country is even close. Definitely not my country. Its extremely lopsided. Its embarrassing. I dont blame trump at all.

[Xero_Daxter]

Draft me and I’ll go buck wild on this whole operation.

[Stingray_tm]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

ZZZZZ a écrit :

did america manage to get to 50% contribution at all by now?

I dont think any other country is even close. Definitely not my country. Its extremely lopsided. Its embarrassing. I dont blame trump at all.

I don't blame Trump for pointing out that America does the heavy lifting in that Alliance. But I am blaming him from not committing to it. Even from an American point of view, NATO is a great deal for America.

[ZZZZZ]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

ZZZZZ a écrit :

did america manage to get to 50% contribution at all by now?

I dont think any other country is even close. Definitely not my country. Its extremely lopsided. Its embarrassing. I dont blame trump at all.

just looked it up, per gdp usa barely made it in the top 20 of the contributers