do you think humans would be able to survive a nuclear war and a nuclear winter?

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[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

There is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuclear winter. Even if all the nukes in the world detonated, it would not be enough. Do you have any idea how big the planet is? Some firecrackers are not going to do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that's what nukes are at planetary scale: firecrackers.

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

[Thadeus]

Of course it would. It would be knocked back to a pre-industrial age, but it will pickup and recover in a century or so.

[Thadeus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

There is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuclear winter. Even if all the nukes in the world detonated, it would not be enough. Do you have any idea how big the planet is? Some firecrackers are not going to do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that's what nukes are at planetary scale: firecrackers.

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

X to doubt.

Also a nuke generates intense heat, not kinetic energy. Since when does heat move a solid object?

[vkobe]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

X to doubt.

Also a nuke generates intense heat, not kinetic energy. Since when does heat move a solid object?

since heat is energy

so you can push object with heat in space

now i dont say tsar bomba affect earth

but multi teraton tnt may affect earth tilt and rotation, exemple big quake of 9 affect that

but yeah we dont have enough nuke even at height of cold war to reach one teraton of tnt

[Hairy Hands Harry]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

There is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuclear winter. Even if all the nukes in the world detonated, it would not be enough. Do you have any idea how big the planet is? Some firecrackers are not going to do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that's what nukes are at planetary scale: firecrackers.

Even a single volcano can cause a lot of harm. Look up Europe's year without a summer. And it is not the bang. It is whole cities on fire. Half an entire state on fire. All of the UK and Europe on fire. Much more than just one volcano.

[Ganger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

The old film Threads shows something similar just not as happy as Fallout.

If you are happy and want to be depressed just watch this film

First time I watched it was at school when I was a kid. Pretty powerful film for the time because it felt real, a proper city, normal people and no hero saving the day BS. Watching milk bottle melt, the women and child being set on fire and that poor kitten really scared me at the time.

[Ganger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

There is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuclear winter. Even if all the nukes in the world detonated, it would not be enough. Do you have any idea how big the planet is? Some firecrackers are not going to do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that's what nukes are at planetary scale: firecrackers.

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

We talking about the tzar bomba...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptub8p9bMrQ

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

X to doubt.

the Tsar Bomb was the biggest but no reference now to it moving the Earth. - checking some more.

They had to restrict it from the original design because it was too powerful.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

the Russians detonated a nuke so big it had to be done in the air and it shifted the Earth an inch.

X to doubt.

Also a nuke generates intense heat, not kinetic energy. Since when does heat move a solid object?

The Tsar Bomb moved itself instead of going where they thought it would go.

Others have posted more details already.

[ZZZZZ]

yes, even if all nuclear missiles would have been fired we would still do well

[Chaosolous]

For how long is the real question.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ganger:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

The old film Threads shows something similar just not as happy as Fallout.

If you are happy and want to be depressed just watch this film

First time I watched it was at school when I was a kid. Pretty powerful film for the time because it felt real, a proper city, normal people and no hero saving the day BS. Watching milk bottle melt, the women and child being set on fire and that poor kitten really scared me at the time.

Like the protesters said in the film 'nobody wins a nuclear war' .

I am glad the film Terminator 2 really brought home what Nuclear war would do to people. A big mainstream film very well done and the nuclear war being more the side point of the film think helped get a message across.

[Kamiyama]

Russia could because they have built huge underground bunkers to house their citizens.

The USA also has huge underground bunkers, but only for military, politicians, and bilionaires.

This is also why the USA uses its nukes as a deterrent where as Russia has a first strike policy when it comes to nuclear war. Russia intends to survive the retaliatory strike.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kamiyama:

Russia could because they have built huge underground bunkers to house their citizens.

The USA also has huge underground bunkers, but only for military, politicians, and bilionaires.

This is also why the USA uses its nukes as a deterrent where as Russia has a first strike policy when it comes to nuclear war. Russia intends to survive the retaliatory strike.

You seen the state of their military?

I do not think those bunkers are stored with food and water, not done any research on this but going by what the Russians were equipped with .

[vkobe]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Harry The Gamer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Thadeus:

There is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuclear winter. Even if all the nukes in the world detonated, it would not be enough. Do you have any idea how big the planet is? Some firecrackers are not going to do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that's what nukes are at planetary scale: firecrackers.

Even a single volcano can cause a lot of harm. Look up Europe's year without a summer. And it is not the bang. It is whole cities on fire. Half an entire state on fire. All of the UK and Europe on fire. Much more than just one volcano.

tambora was 33 gigaton of tnt

last time we had that was in 1984 when soviet had 47000 nukes

currently only 4000 nukes are operational