Ukraine aid needed to avoid Western troops in Ukraine

[Dom]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/27/europe/france-macron-troops-ukraine-intl
CNN reporting that West won't rule out sending troops to Ukraine.
A statement first issued by French President Emmanuel Macron.

I hope everyone now sees the absolute urgency, also in the US, to keep assisting Ukraine. Because West has made a commitment that Ukraine will win the war, take back all of its land that rightfully belongs to them. Period. Any other outcome will never be accepted.
If it came down to the point where Ukraine is at risk of falling, West will send troops to Ukraine. Essentially, they're now openly saying that either Ukraine wins or World War will happen. There isn't any other option on the table and if there was, it is long gone now.

Let me be very clear about this: it is absolutely inconcievable that Putin will colonize Europe without West & NATO reacting. Sending aid makes sure that the war does not escalate and people from other countries are not drafted into the frontlines. The media of course tries to say this in the nicest way possible but this is the harsh reality. We are assisting Ukraine to avoid war.

Do you want you or your family members to get involved in a war or not? It's a serious question. Depending on what your answer is to the question, it's then clear what needs to be done.

Ukraine is currently expecting $11 billion dollars from the US in economic aid. It is time for the US to fulfill their promises, do their part and stop denying more aid. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-expects-118-bln-us-economic-aid-2024-prime-minister-says-2024-02-25/

[Enigmatic]

How many people who live outside Ukraine and know Ukrainian would volunteer?
Unfortunately

Originally posted by :D:

How about NO AID and NO TROOPS to Ukraine?

How about they negotiate peace before they lose more of their country and countrymen?

If Russia has advantage they are the ones who will decide peace terms.
I think best is to go to Russia with peace and reform it from within.

Worst case scenario is Russia has been a captured state since the Bolshevik revolution. It could be a controlled piece since the fall of Tsarist Russia.

We would need endurance from all neighboring states for peace like Romania and Poland. Where Nato stops it's eastward expansion and Russian democracy reforms without a full break down of Russian unity. Assurance for peace in Baltic states as they are the most vulnerable to Russian aggression.

[nohuman]

No one say a word about ruSSia leaving anytime it wants.... you don't get paid for that.
https://youtu.be/IgSQK3pejZg

[nohuman]

Plus there's more already. Who wants to be next?
https://youtu.be/i3KM6koMmG8

[nohuman]

It's also not just ruSSia, but NK too now.
https://youtu.be/VazOosG2bA8

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

Originally posted by For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge:

The usa needs to stop funding other countries. Biden already put 500 trillion towards our national debt. More then any other president in our history.

Based and yes

[nohuman]

Ukraine is just one piece, tho it's a big one, and if it falls, it's way more likely if not guaranteed the others will too.

Lines are drawn, time to pick your side. It's almost party time....

[Swarmfly]

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

You're more than welcome to fly to Ukraine and join their soldiers, and help them out.

You'll be ruSSian before this is over.

I can't roll my tongue and haven't drank a drop of vodka in my life. I think I might have to be excluded. :(

[nohuman]

Originally posted by Zubovnikov:

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

You'll be ruSSian before this is over.

I can't roll my tongue and haven't drank a drop of vodka in my life. I think I might have to be excluded. :(

heh that might just be the luckiest you've ever been.
https://youtu.be/natlrXGSacs

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Originally posted by :D:

How about NO AID and NO TROOPS to Ukraine?

How about they negotiate peace before they lose more of their country and countrymen?

You think Putin wants peace?

[Voroff]

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

The amount of traitors in this thread is too damned high.

Again, it's part of a CIA psyop, colored revolutions "you can enter Euro Zone RIGHT NOW if you wish it strong enought" when the roads outside Kiev or the west were at best autopistas, the rail system was under urgent need of maintenance and 70% of wagons were not in shape to sustain full speed (dunno where i've read that precisely, but it stuck), half the unloading bays in docks in ports were out of usage, the pipelines were not properly maintaned.
For a small reminder, the 2014 ousting of the rpesident of the time was because he could NOT choose joining Europe, because Europe said to him his infrastructure will need at least 15 billions to be redone "to the standarts permitting efficient transit and commerce".



He just could not go into the EU at the time. Literaly.
So he took the counter offer from Putin, a financial help for 10 billions and a further reduction on gas prices for 5 other billions. And that president got ousted by his population for that acceptance of the counter offer.

You may know the training time to make a good "peacefull revolution agent", you may know of all the american "democracy fostering agencies" present in ukaine for some years. They all went out in the field during Maidan.

You may know of the Nuland/Pyatt tapes, that were NEVER DEBUNKED by any US news site i've seen, on the contrary, they were conmmentating on how did russia obtained that. Absolute madness, when your US OFFICIALS are caught red-handed picking the next gov of SOVEREIGN ukraine, but your US news outlets reaction is the laught at it "we were caught, OOPS *loud fart noise followed by canned laughters*, LOL". Madness. On the ones who DID talk about the content of the taped conversation all stopped at Nuland's "lol, Euro is trash". No one, NO ONE talked about the US officials handpicking the next gov. MADNESS.




And then and only then Crimea independant thing, then Donbass thing, then 8 years of shelling cities with people inside. 8 years of people having no electricity, gaz, running water in some cities of the donbass/donetsk, because the governement either send troops to fight them, or could not stop people from ultra-right militias to go there and fight.

Ho, and no cease fire could be maintained, half of the shottings that reignited the fights were from the ukrainians side. Guess what, an disciplined "army" could not retreat for 5 kms to have effective cease-fire, while the rebels could literaly NOT retreat, at all. But the two remained in gun distance to each other, so ...








Ho, did i told you about the summer camps for children that were summer "training camp of indoctrination by ultra nationnalists" ?
Where did they find the money to build them summer camps for right wingers between 2014 and 2022, during a civil war ? CIA.

[Enigmatic]

The US called them ISIL vetting camps in Iraq and Syria.

[👾]

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

The amount of traitors in this thread is too damned high.

Traitors? How? I don't live in Ukraine, I don't care about them, and I don't want to have anything to do with them. In fact it is illegal for a country to mingle in conflicts they are not directly involved with, it's in the law. What if your country would have happened to "stand with Russia"? Would you say you would be a traitor then?

[nohuman]

Originally posted by Voroff:

ruSSian rhetoric

I think you mean the west, aka NATO, has been under a ruSSian psyop for over fifteen years now.
https://youtu.be/XV5i1hE7_hg
https://youtu.be/NbYFyv46Jh8
https://youtu.be/hO0ongJYlM0
https://youtu.be/wHnW7bGwc4k

North Korea sent more than 3m artillery shells to Russia, says Seoul
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/North-Korea-sent-more-than-3m-artillery-shells-to-Russia-says-Seoul

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

Originally posted by Voroff:

ruSSian rhetoric

I think you mean the west, aka NATO, has been under a ruSSian psyop for over fifteen years now.
https://youtu.be/XV5i1hE7_hg
https://youtu.be/NbYFyv46Jh8
https://youtu.be/hO0ongJYlM0
https://youtu.be/wHnW7bGwc4k

North Korea sent more than 3m artillery shells to Russia, says Seoul
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/North-Korea-sent-more-than-3m-artillery-shells-to-Russia-says-Seoul

One could say you are a traitor to your country because you care more about other countries as Canada falls apart. We are on the other side of the world we should be worrying about our countries first and foremost that makes us Patriots. Europe needs to learn to get along with its neighbors.


We need Canada, the USA, and Latin America to thrive before we can help anyone else and we aren’t we are all suffering because Europe and Asia can’t get along.

[nohuman]

Originally posted by lankaras:

Originally posted by EnÐΩGeÑe§¡§:

The amount of traitors in this thread is too damned high.

Traitors? How? I don't live in Ukraine, I don't care about them, and I don't want to have anything to do with them. In fact it is illegal for a country to mingle in conflicts they are not directly involved with, it's in the law. What if your country would have happened to "stand with Russia"? Would you say you would be a traitor then?

This is semi-true in that there may be actual ruSSians in here, as such they would have a different label, but since they keep saying how they are brothers and Ukrainians are really just ruSSians, then you could say ruSSians are traitors to their own kin.