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Is it true that Republicans are collectively trying to exterminate LGBT people?
Please don't fight over this but I keep hearing about this "2025 plan" the Republican party is working on. Supposedly it aims to get rid of LGBT people, especially transgender people. Is this true or is the news trying to scare us again?
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Messaggio originale di Aionion:
Messaggio originale di Apteryx:
Please don't fight over this but I keep hearing about this "2025 plan" the Republican party is working on. Supposedly it aims to get rid of LGBT people, especially transgender people. Is this true or is the news trying to scare us again?
Not true. There's a reason you won't find a single Leftist on this board providing any objective evidence whatsoever: it doesn't exist.

Instead, what you will find is:

1) misleading people about actual bills (saying that FL has a "Don't Say Gay" bill is a perfect example)
2) many claims about how the GOP is doing awful things, but that's it, just claims (again, no evidence).

In general, Leftists live in an echo chamber. Most are told what to think, not how to think. Non-thinkers are easier to control and get wound up. You will never find a rational, objective Leftist. You may find some kind ones, of course. But that is not to be confused with rational and objective. Facts just aren't something Leftists value unfortunately.

The GOP's actual positions are:

1) kids under 18 should not have sex changes
2) biological males are different than biological females, each should have their own spaces in some categories/events/positions, etc.
3) explicit sexual images should not be used in school curriculum for children
4) parents should be aware of what happens with their child in school

Leftists disagree with the above, of course. As is their right. But the above is quite different than "erasing all LGBTQ" people. That claim is patently absurd and only the radically ignorant would propose it.
:steamthis:
here's my reason why not:

because people care about what the representative is talking about rather than what the policy is talking about. even then, the "effectiveness" of the policy is varied and does not make the world reflect each and every word from it. add that up with the fact that people are different. if they ever want to kill you, you have the right to call it an assault and for the most part, not everyone has the intention to kill you or anyone else. and if someone did, just don't blame everyone for it.

i know, it's flawed. but calling others subhumans are literally hypocrisy.
Messaggio originale di Thadeus:
Messaggio originale di aka:
You can do what you want to the BGTQ+ salad ... But the L is beyond the reach of any moral.

You're welcome my wise friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Z13iDu95I

Hey, that's how I feel about the T, especially when a T gets very self-entitled and in your face and demands you entertain their delusions and pronouns.

No issues with the rest of the letters. Let them marry and everything they want.
have you met many trans people?
you cant believe the news, no sane person would be ex term inating people, some clickbait thing probably or twisting words
Messaggio originale di Apteryx:
Is it true that Republicans are collectively trying to exterminate LGBT people?

Ah so murder is not a criminal offence anymore in the US? It was just a matter of time I suppose.
Messaggio originale di Apteryx:
Please don't fight over this but I keep hearing about this "2025 plan" the Republican party is working on. Supposedly it aims to get rid of LGBT people, especially transgender people. Is this true or is the news trying to scare us again?
Nope, even nope to the opposite. Its a divide system. Since USA dosent have the black racism card anymore, we come with other distractions to keep the money flow from middle/poor class to the 1%. It's a ♥♥♥♥ system to keep people from uniting and uprising to whats important.
Messaggio originale di HypersleepyNaputunia:
you cant believe the news, no sane person would be ex term inating people, some clickbait thing probably or twisting words

You missed the memo of 17 million people murdered by Nazis in Germany.
No, but it is true that some Republican policymakers have made threatening, violent, or homicidal sounding remarks. Sure. All totally innocent though, how cute eh. Usually not being censured, condemned, etc. at all by the rest of their party.

So... promoting violence against gays and transsexuals? Yes, same with other demographics. All, totally innocent though, they swear.

Some "conspiracy" like the OP is distracting the topic with that they bring up in the first place? No. Real world consequences that affect people possibly committing violence against others because of their sexuality? Yes.

Is it true that all of the anti-LGBT, anti-trans, similar type of legislation attempted or succeeding in many various states over the past several years is all initiated and promoted by Republicans/the right? Yes, not the left. Objectively speaking it's a right-wing thing, not debatable or avoidable.

Sure, some politicians and officials on the left have made anti-gay remarks, and/or at least suggested they don't support these people (more often in the 2000s and 90s and not really recently). I shouldn't have to say this disclaimer though, should I? But politically speaking, speaking of policy, it's all on the right.

And if you want the folks who were always in favor of LGBT rights (and not only recently, just because of society pressuring people into it finally who want a pat on the back all of a sudden, and yes including on the left*) they were found on the LEFT.

*The types of folks who (including on the left), before somewhat recently in history, were totally okay with being bigots towards gay people. Then all of a sudden they want a big pat on the back.

For what exactly? Taking so long to be convinced by the rest of society that it's not cool to dislike gays and transsexuals? No thanks, yes that includes some of you "liberals".

Lol. There was a short period before recently in history when, enough folks on the left/etc were against racism, but not enough and too many at the same time though that it's ok to hate gay people still. Now all of a sudden, you want a pat on the back? How cute.
Ultima modifica da Disgruntled Cuttlefish; 4 mag 2024, ore 3:29
Messaggio originale di Apteryx:
Please don't fight over this but I keep hearing about this "2025 plan" the Republican party is working on. Supposedly it aims to get rid of LGBT people, especially transgender people. Is this true or is the news trying to scare us again?




As far as I could tell??

The only People who have been Discriminating against anyone,
has been the Stupid Biden Nomics People, & all their Supporters...

They blame all their problems on everyone else...

Meanwhile everyone else, is like??

Hey, I didn't do this, i'm not the one who is in power right now...

That's all on you People...

If you hate the world around you?? Maybe stop supporting your own beliefs, lOl...




Maybe you'll feel better about yourselves,
when you stop living like rabid animals hating on everything,
with all kinds of phobias of your body, & such...

Again?? We are doing just fine, don't blame us for your problems...



We got nothin to do with your problems...


You hate us, because of our skin color, or race, or nationality...
You hate on everything about us...

Soooo, you'd rather live in a lawless City
where your life span could end at any moment??

Oky?? Whatever you say...

Just remember, you chose to live that way...


You can't pin that crap on us... We are the ones who are
the danger to your life remember, we are the one's your
supposed to hate... Yet you burn your own jobs down,
& terrorize your own selves, because you hate us sooo badly...


I mean, you can't make this stuff up...

Look at the so called Statement from George Carlin,
the speech on I just wanna see bodies fly, & body parts
completely detatch, just let chaos run rampid in America...

The Speech from Lewis Black, all about the idea that
he just wants to see a world that is the most fk up
crazy screwed up nonsense, & People Violently attacking
each other on the streets... It would be fantastic
as he's described it as...

The moral of those Statements are that you
Voted for this, it's not anyone elses fault
that you Voted to allow this??

If you want to fix this, you have to actually
support Voting for better choices, because
only your will to do better could actually
change Stupidity, & a chaotic hell hole,
into something more... Something better...





These are not my words,
but I said it myself...

I didn't Vote for this crap, you can't pin any of this on me,
I wanted nothing to do with any of it...

If People hate the crap out of it??

Just Vote to have it End, & that is all you have to do...

Just Vote to End your suffering...

It's that simple, & that easy...




I on the other hand don't need to Vote,
because i'm not the moron who thought this
was a good idea from the start...

If People want change, they have to go & Vote,
& Vote for that CHANGE to End Stupidity in America,
& the rest of the World...

Me?? I don't have to Vote, because those
People will do the Voting for me...

Why?? Because all those People Voted for
the world to destroy it's self...

Now they got it, & they hate it...

So now they want the world to stop being soo Violent??

So now they Vote to go back to a World that is Happy again...

See, what do I need to Vote for??

in the End, I get the Vote I want anyways...


Sooo, what do I need to Vote for??

Just let the nuckle cases Vote for me...


Either the World will go to sht, or the World will be fantastic...

Your either Smart, or your Stupid...


Why should that bother me??


I'm not the one who thought it was a good idea
to burn my job down, & thought robbing other jobs
was a great way to assert the idea that i'm starving,
& there are no stores, or places to get food anymore,
all because I wasn't smart enough to start a farm
of my own before thinking it was a good idea to burn
everything down..

I wasn't the genious who thought of that idea...

I was just the one who got hated at,
& followed around getting multiple BAN's,
& that is all I was to anyone...
You want to know what are gay rights?
-Gun rights are gay rights.
-Not supporting Palestine/Hamas or Ukraine are gay rights.
-Supporting Trump are gay rights
-Having low taxes are gay rights.
-Fossil Fuel restrictions are against gay rights.

If you read all that and thought that many of those things aren't specifically gay rights you'd be right and you'd understand what the political left have done in concerns to the claim that "gay rights" are being removed.

If we look at the policies many of the things that are labeled as "gay rights" aren't actually that.

MAGA and more specifically Trump don't have any problem with the folks who identify under the umbrella of LGQBT. Trump is the first President to support gay marriage from day 1, all those other Presidents like Obama or Joe Biden were against gay marriage.
Ultima modifica da Darth Triggerus ☯; 4 mag 2024, ore 12:51
Messaggio originale di Chunk Norris ☯:
You want to know what are gay rights?
-Gun rights are gay rights.
-Not supporting Palestine/Hamas or Ukraine are gay rights.
-Supporting Trump are gay rights
-Having low taxes are gay rights.
-Fossil Fuel restrictions are against gay rights.

If you read all that and thought that many of those things aren't specifically gay rights you'd be right and you'd understand what the political left have done in concerns to the claim that "gay rights" are being removed.

If we look at the policies many of the things that are labeled as "gay rights" aren't actually that.

MAGA and more specifically Trump don't have any problem with the folks who identify under the umbrella of LGQBT. Trump is the first President to support gay marriage from day 1, all those other Presidents like Obama or Joe Biden were against gay marriage.
what are you even talking about??
Messaggio originale di Goose:
Messaggio originale di Chunk Norris ☯:
You want to know what are gay rights?
-Gun rights are gay rights.
-Not supporting Palestine/Hamas or Ukraine are gay rights.
-Supporting Trump are gay rights
-Having low taxes are gay rights.
-Fossil Fuel restrictions are against gay rights.

If you read all that and thought that many of those things aren't specifically gay rights you'd be right and you'd understand what the political left have done in concerns to the claim that "gay rights" are being removed.

If we look at the policies many of the things that are labeled as "gay rights" aren't actually that.

MAGA and more specifically Trump don't have any problem with the folks who identify under the umbrella of LGQBT. Trump is the first President to support gay marriage from day 1, all those other Presidents like Obama or Joe Biden were against gay marriage.
what are you even talking about??

Imagine a bill whose name I will reveal later did this....

-Bans classroom instruction of sexual orientation or identity until age appropriate/3rd grade. Casual discussion is still allowed.
-Requires the school to notify the parents if the child is undergoing any kind of problems physically, mentally or emotionally.

Does this bill sound like it's anti-LGQBT?
Messaggio originale di Chunk Norris ☯:
Messaggio originale di Goose:
what are you even talking about??

Imagine a bill whose name I will reveal later did this....

-Bans classroom instruction of sexual orientation or identity until age appropriate/3rd grade. Casual discussion is still allowed.
-Requires the school to notify the parents if the child is undergoing any kind of problems physically, mentally or emotionally.

Does this bill sound like it's anti-LGQBT?
who made the bill
also, why do you keep jumbling the letters in the acronym, it's actually making this harder to read.
If we stop hearing Republican speakers saying stuff like homosexuality will lead to pedophilia being legalized and destruction of the whole democracy then maybe someday someone might believe that they are not anti-LGBT.

On another note, what do MAGA Republicans think about Trump saying on "Truth" Social that Ukraine's survival is quite important to US and not voicing opposition to $60 billion aid to Ukraine with the help of Republicans? Hmm, hmm.

Is that...
a) an attempt to fish pro-Ukraine votes (being dishonest),
b) Trump actually thinking that Ukraine is important and approving tens of billions in aid
?? 🤔 🤔
It can't be both or neither.
Ultima modifica da Dom; 4 mag 2024, ore 13:17
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