Do you have a dislike of philosophers?

[Rio]

Often times they seem to be grifters, speaking pseudo science. While people praise them for being so deep and wise.

They may pull up personal stories as reason why they are right. Or say common sense or matter of fact is right. They may preach of nature, and the benefits of willful ignorance. The inherent good or godness of people, despite all that humanity has done.

Some will tell you feel good stories, so that you'll want to hear more, as the audiences of their day paid them money. Some to us, seem to be Royal Jesters that know poetry, and story telling.

They can paint you a picture of the world you'd want to be in, or how you are already perfect the way you are.

I would call some philosophers, Pop music, lacking substance, but it sure sound good, until you stop and think for a moment about the non-sense of the lyrics.

What your opinion on philosophers, specially more modern ones?

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This my Philosophy (in regards to my games):

I harbor no corporatization what so ever.
I do not and will not have DLC, microtransactions, live service, lootboxes, NFTs etc.

The most important thing are players getting to have a fun experience that isn't a damn headache.

That means, having all intended content directly in the game itself, upon release, in one single package.

There are no subscriptions and/or accounts.

I release all games physical media, ran from the disc, no downloads or installations, no broken updates, no day 1 patches, no revolving patches.

Digital releases are secondary, particularly if the latter is not 100% an option on the platform.

Games use a different formula, reminiscent of the video games of yore.
Gameplay is priority, cutscenes are a reward–not too long that it would halt the player from gameplay overlong; for all genres.

Games are very niche. It does not follow the modern day trend.

Games are not hand-holding, no QTEs.

Games are not driven by profit. It's a nice incentive, but that's it.

Games are not made for representation, agendas or diversity; initial creations aren't changed later to fit any demography or group.
It's video games made as video games to be played.

Games are no holds barred to all themes. It has no filter or censorship of any kind, shape or form.

that sounds like something i've heard many times. definitely not unique XD

[Rio]

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"pseudo science"? Wtf are you talking about? You sound like a "scientist" who simply doesn't like philosophy because he has settled on the idea of "science". Which depends completely on a single philosophy: Materialism / empiricism. Actually philosophizing would require you to call your "science" into question, which you do not like.

That being said, I have no idea which philosophers you are talking about, you did not give any concrete examples.

Here is the latest in a long line of videos that made us turn up our nose. If you could see it, we'd resemble an elephant giving its back a shower of water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xcC7fmQ18

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people have a choice to buy products whatever they want, right? because others than what's necessary, it's not a requirement.

[Grumb]

Depends on the philosopher

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"pseudo science"? Wtf are you talking about? You sound like a "scientist" who simply doesn't like philosophy because he has settled on the idea of "science". Which depends completely on a single philosophy: Materialism / empiricism. Actually philosophizing would require you to call your "science" into question, which you do not like.

That being said, I have no idea which philosophers you are talking about, you did not give any concrete examples.

The philosophers of the ancient world often were the leading scientists, even if there wasn’t an exact method set out yet. We owe them a lot

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"pseudo science"? Wtf are you talking about? You sound like a "scientist" who simply doesn't like philosophy because he has settled on the idea of "science". Which depends completely on a single philosophy: Materialism / empiricism. Actually philosophizing would require you to call your "science" into question, which you do not like.

That being said, I have no idea which philosophers you are talking about, you did not give any concrete examples.

Here is the latest in a long line of videos that made us turn up our nose. If you could see it, we'd resemble an elephant giving its back a shower of water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xcC7fmQ18

If that is your example, I wonder if you actually understand what philosophy is. That video is about psychology mostly. There might be *some* philosophy in there I guess? I'm not going to watch the whole thing.

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Depends on the philosopher

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"pseudo science"? Wtf are you talking about? You sound like a "scientist" who simply doesn't like philosophy because he has settled on the idea of "science". Which depends completely on a single philosophy: Materialism / empiricism. Actually philosophizing would require you to call your "science" into question, which you do not like.

That being said, I have no idea which philosophers you are talking about, you did not give any concrete examples.

The philosophers of the ancient world often were the leading scientists, even if there wasn’t an exact method set out yet. We owe them a lot

Indeed. Philosophy is prior to science. But arrogant "scientists" of today sure like to forget about that.

[Rio]

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Depends on the philosopher

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"pseudo science"? Wtf are you talking about? You sound like a "scientist" who simply doesn't like philosophy because he has settled on the idea of "science". Which depends completely on a single philosophy: Materialism / empiricism. Actually philosophizing would require you to call your "science" into question, which you do not like.

That being said, I have no idea which philosophers you are talking about, you did not give any concrete examples.

The philosophers of the ancient world often were the leading scientists, even if there wasn’t an exact method set out yet. We owe them a lot

Yes, I have heard of that. And how there was a rivalry of one educated philosopher against another that was not. Was it Schopenhauer and someone else? That someone else is probably not a fellow worth remembering

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Depends on the philosopher

The philosophers of the ancient world often were the leading scientists, even if there wasn’t an exact method set out yet. We owe them a lot

Yes, I have heard of that. And how there was a rivalry of one educated philosopher against another that was not. Was it Schopenhauer and someone else? That someone else is probably not a fellow worth remembering

Lmao you call Schopenhauer ancient? You need to read up A LOT before trying to talk about these things.

[Rio]

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Yes, I have heard of that. And how there was a rivalry of one educated philosopher against another that was not. Was it Schopenhauer and someone else? That someone else is probably not a fellow worth remembering

Lmao you call Schopenhauer ancient? You need to read up A LOT before trying to talk about these things.

Oh, I didn't see you used ancient. I have no beef with greek and romans.

[Professor]

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Philosophy is prior to science. But arrogant "scientists" of today sure like to forget about that.

Absolutely correct, I would even go as far to say that Philosophy is PART of science. What the modern scientist forgets, is that it requires theorising or pondering questions, not yet proven or disproven by scientific methods.

The AIM of any scientific experimentation is always subjective, it is an idea, on the path towards becoming objective or not.

OBJECTIVE science always starts with SUBJECTIVE philosophy.

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people have a choice to buy products whatever they want, right? because others than what's necessary, it's not a requirement.

Don't think all what I said fully registered in your head.
But I suppose players actually don't want physical media games or less censorship.

just saying, alright.

to think about it, philosophies aren't meant to be original to begin with. just whoever got the loudest speaker got it.

what i want gaming is for gaming to be fun but doing so that is healthy to one's organization and subsequently the industry. what i don't like about the industry and the accepting stance behind it is that it makes people to develop the mindset of art for the sake of it. and that alone is by contradiction limits freedom because that's what people demand, and at the same time leaving behind something that could save one's business to begin with. the one's extreme is already bad but i don't want the other extreme to ruin gaming as a whole.

there are things that are straight out of stupid and redundant bureaucracy and there are things that us the people demand and if we don't meet the demand, then you ended up killing what you truly love of.

[Good Night Owl]

No. Just when someone says something that I think is outrageously dumb, but they think it's unbelievably smart.

[Shiro♌]

I don't have a negative opinion towards philosophy itself, but I don't care about the modern philosophy.
It shouldn't even needed to be mentioned just how much have things changed over the years when it comes to philosophy, if you ask me.

To me, the modern philosophy isn't philosophy whatsoever. It's not even close to that..
If I'm thinking about philosophy, then I'm all about the ancient Greece.

[Y1N9]

I am one. Having said that, yeah some "philosophers" are full of it. They don't practice philosophy though. What they do is called philautia.

[Y1N9]

The big problem with modern day philosophy is that the nerds have locked themselves up in the ivory tower of academia, so we get these people writing for each other instead of providing a more public service. It's these people who have caused the downfall of philosophy in the eyes of the public. The love of tenure and the love of study points has overtaken the love of wisdom, and as such, academic philosophy has lost it's meaning and purpose.