vkobe 22. feb. 2024 kl. 12.41
UK trident missile fail
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brain stew 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.18 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Harry The Gamer:
I can't say anymore but that program kinda sorta paid my salary for half of my career. And a yearly trip to the UK. Thank you UK MOD.

:)

You work at Lockheed Martin?
Hairy Hands Harry 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.20 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Baron Twirly von Moustache:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Harry The Gamer:
I can't say anymore but that program kinda sorta paid my salary for half of my career. And a yearly trip to the UK. Thank you UK MOD.

:)

You work at Lockheed Martin?

No.
Rio 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.22 
On the plus side, if one side's nukes fail, the planet might survive :lolFumi:

Since its half the nukes.
❤ Sly Succubus ❤ 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.25 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Sashie:
On the plus side, if one side's nukes fail, the planet might survive :lolFumi:

Since its half the nukes.
I mean two nations alone have more then enough to hit every single part of earth at least 7 times over again so one guy loosing their nukes is more akin to that guy being kicked out of the pub while two giant, buff macho men keep flexing in one corner of the tavern and the rest is full of people who can't stop arguing lol
SMIFFY 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.42 
Perhaps the UK shouldn't have wasted money on Trident after all.
apathy 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.49 
It is as I have said. If a nuclear war were to happen, humanity will survive, because most of America and Russia's ageing and decrepit arsenal would fail to go off.
Rio 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.53 
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
It is as I have said. If a nuclear war were to happen, humanity will survive, because most of America and Russia's ageing and decrepit arsenal would fail to go off.

Russia's stuff is not old and falling apart. They've been in a war this whole time and trying to make new nuke technology and possibly making and sharing nuke technology with allies.

Russia was the one trying to make new better hyper sonic missiles to thwart any missile defense shield that nato/west might create. As one would expect if you expected yourself being surrounded in an attempt to prevent your missiles from being worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W4Ot_qkDk
Sist redigert av Rio; 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.58
Hairy Hands Harry 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.55 
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Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
It is as I have said. If a nuclear war were to happen, humanity will survive, because most of America and Russia's ageing and decrepit arsenal would fail to go off.

Russia's stuff is not old and falling apart.

Yes it is. And crucial components may have been sold on the black market because of all the corruption there.
SMIFFY 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.56 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Sashie:
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
It is as I have said. If a nuclear war were to happen, humanity will survive, because most of America and Russia's ageing and decrepit arsenal would fail to go off.

Russia's stuff is not old and falling apart. They've been in a war this whole time and trying to make new nuke technology and possibly making and sharing nuke technology with allies.
This the same Russia that's going cap in hand to all the worlds broke pariah states, looking for weapons and ammo?
apathy 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.57 
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It is as I have said. If a nuclear war were to happen, humanity will survive, because most of America and Russia's ageing and decrepit arsenal would fail to go off.

Russia's stuff is not old and falling apart.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-parades-advanced-military-tech-soldiers-die-ukraine-soviet-weapons-2023-3?r=US&IR=T
Rio 22. feb. 2024 kl. 13.59 
Also looking just now it seems russian allies are helping russia. We knew North Korea was making munnitions, but Iran is making missiles now for russia it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgcAFCx1Qoc

"Russia paid in gold ingots"

Interesting move considering Brics has hinted at having gold backing to it currencies.
Sist redigert av Rio; 22. feb. 2024 kl. 14.02
vkobe 22. feb. 2024 kl. 14.02 
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Sashie:

Russia's stuff is not old and falling apart.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-parades-advanced-military-tech-soldiers-die-ukraine-soviet-weapons-2023-3?r=US&IR=T
it is from march 2023, so before ukrainian counter attack
The Icecream Snowman 22. feb. 2024 kl. 14.05 
The important thing about a nuclear deterrent isn't the nuclear, it's the deterrent. You want the enemy to know it exists, but nothing more.

Take the B2, for example: we know it's a stealth bomber which can fly through radar and bomb people with impunity. We don't know any of that stuff works so it remains enigmatic and scary.

What we learned about Trident is that it's not very good. When Grant Shapps says it's the most reliable weapon system in the world, remember that he's Tory scum who, like the rest of them, has made a career from prevaricating.
76561198356019466 22. feb. 2024 kl. 14.11 
Why did they make a missile out of gum?
Morkonan 22. feb. 2024 kl. 14.23 
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it is really serious ???...

Is the test failure serious? No.

Is the article/clip ramping up hype with breathless excitement and are relevant politicians scrambling to gain a share of news coverage? Yes.

A good general article on it:
https://www.navylookout.com/a-credible-deterrent-trident-missile-fails-during-test-launch-from-hms-vanguard/

Every credible source for these incidents have repeatedly pointed out that the failures are isolated to the test events, themselves. So, something about what was tested, how, and the conditions under which it was tested that do not necessarily effect use conditions is what has caused the failures.

This doesn't speak to the broader program or the Trident II's general reliability.

IOW - The failures can't be indicative of a problem outside of the specific tests, themselves. There are numerous successful tests by the USN available at everyone's news source, Google...


What do these reports truly say? Whatever is unique to these tests that is causing the problem needs to be fixed, removed, altered, or the tests redesigned.
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