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Arvaos 20/mai./2024 às 10:03
Why are divorce rates so high these days?
Why are the divorce rates so high these days?

The IFS did a study and found that a higher number of sexual partners previous to marriage correlates with a higher divorce rate.

Women with 10 or more partners were the most likely to divorce, but this only became true in recent years;
Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women with 2 partners; and,
Women with 0-1 partners were the least likely to divorce.

Source
https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability

Why do you think the divorce rates are higher than the previous generations?
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Arvaos 20/mai./2024 às 10:21 
Escrito originalmente por Chaosolous:
Escrito originalmente por Shiro♌:
While I agree with that, it should be the other way around, no?
If they love each other, all the different opinions shall be tolerated or changed to favour one of the partners more without the other partner taking it personally.
As in.. That the more time they've spent together, the more acustomed they're to each other and so the less likely they're to divorce.

The problem is, most people are used to just.. Complain to get out of tough situations.
If there would've been things forcing people to stick together and attempt to respect each other just like X tenths of years ago, then there woulda been no reason to divorce.
Besides that, I see nothing OK with divorcing the person with whom they've been for X tenths of years just because one has convinced themself that they're not doing fine at all with them.. Just because they've had a bad day or negative experiences as of late.
That's what partners are for aswell, aren't they.. To offer each other a shoulder for cry, the necessary comfort and trust to share all the stuff they're being bothered by..

It's as if the people nowadays have prefered making things up instead of being honest, resulting in X divorces instead of sticking together until the end.

The foundation of the relationship and the mentality towards marriage as a whole by the couple will be a defining factor.

I was over simplifying for the sake of time.

I don't believe enough relationships are built on solid enough foundational ideologies to withstand or weather the changes.

Do you believe that marriages built on Western ideology aren't built on solid foundations?

What about Eastern ideology?
Boblin the Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 10:22 
Divorce rates are actually some of the lowest they have been.

They had a big spike in the 60s and 70s due to women being able to divorce more easily since beforehand, it was almost all dependent on the husband wanting a divorce, not the wife. This would essentially trap women in marriages that were abusive.

When no-fault divorce started to become a thing, the divorce rate spike since now women could get out of relationships without having to prove some type of arbitrary standard. Since that little spike, it's gone down quite a bit and is roughly half of what it used to be.
The Commendatore 20/mai./2024 às 10:23 
Escrito originalmente por Arvaos:
Escrito originalmente por The Commendatore:
Who cares? They break down, it happens, big deal.

You don't care about the factors behind broken homes and marriages?

I'm sure you won't shrug it off and say "it happens" when it actually happens to you.
Not going to happen.
ナルゴ 20/mai./2024 às 10:25 
Because in financial terms, it would be like giving your partner a gun to point at your head, and then trusting that they won't pull the trigger.
And existing laws give them plenty of incentives to actually do it.
Arvaos 20/mai./2024 às 10:29 
Escrito originalmente por SlowMango:
Divorce rates are actually some of the lowest they have been.

They had a big spike in the 60s and 70s due to women being able to divorce more easily since beforehand, it was almost all dependent on the husband wanting a divorce, not the wife. This would essentially trap women in marriages that were abusive.

When no-fault divorce started to become a thing, the divorce rate spike since now women could get out of relationships without having to prove some type of arbitrary standard. Since that little spike, it's gone down quite a bit and is roughly half of what it used to be.

Globally?

Globally, in the nearly four decades between 1970 and 2008, the divorce rate has more than doubled, from 2.6 divorces for every 1,000 married people to 5.5. Those results are averaged across all the regions of the world that they studied.

The divorce rates for Northern Europe and Western Europe, including the Scandinavian countries, are all fairly high, ranging from 4.03 for France to 6.22 for Denmark and 6.55 for the UK. The exception is Ireland, with just 1.94 divorces for every 1,000 married people. Canada (5.25), Australia (5.61) and New Zealand (6.29) also have high rates of divorce.

Rates are fairly low for Southern Europe, ranging from .93 for Italy to 2.57 for Slovenia. They are mostly low in Latin American and Caribbean countries, with the big exceptions of Cuba (11.03), Puerto Rico (9.43), and the Dominican Republic (9.33).

Eastern Asia and Pacific nations are also on the low side, with divorce rates ranging from 1.13 for China to 3.97 for Hong Kong.
Chaosolous 20/mai./2024 às 10:30 
Escrito originalmente por Arvaos:
Escrito originalmente por Chaosolous:

The foundation of the relationship and the mentality towards marriage as a whole by the couple will be a defining factor.

I was over simplifying for the sake of time.

I don't believe enough relationships are built on solid enough foundational ideologies to withstand or weather the changes.

Do you believe that marriages built on Western ideology aren't built on solid foundations?

What about Eastern ideology?

It's not about Eastern culture or Western culture or any culture in general. It's about the core foundational ideologies of each person in the relationship.

People are unique and more than just their surroundings. Just being part of a culture doesn't mean you're going to get along with everyone in that culture. Let alone that a marriage would work if being a part of a common culture is the only thread holding the couple together.
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Boblin the Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 10:51 
Escrito originalmente por Arvaos:
Escrito originalmente por SlowMango:
Divorce rates are actually some of the lowest they have been.

They had a big spike in the 60s and 70s due to women being able to divorce more easily since beforehand, it was almost all dependent on the husband wanting a divorce, not the wife. This would essentially trap women in marriages that were abusive.

When no-fault divorce started to become a thing, the divorce rate spike since now women could get out of relationships without having to prove some type of arbitrary standard. Since that little spike, it's gone down quite a bit and is roughly half of what it used to be.

Globally?

Globally, in the nearly four decades between 1970 and 2008, the divorce rate has more than doubled, from 2.6 divorces for every 1,000 married people to 5.5. Those results are averaged across all the regions of the world that they studied.

The divorce rates for Northern Europe and Western Europe, including the Scandinavian countries, are all fairly high, ranging from 4.03 for France to 6.22 for Denmark and 6.55 for the UK. The exception is Ireland, with just 1.94 divorces for every 1,000 married people. Canada (5.25), Australia (5.61) and New Zealand (6.29) also have high rates of divorce.

Rates are fairly low for Southern Europe, ranging from .93 for Italy to 2.57 for Slovenia. They are mostly low in Latin American and Caribbean countries, with the big exceptions of Cuba (11.03), Puerto Rico (9.43), and the Dominican Republic (9.33).

Eastern Asia and Pacific nations are also on the low side, with divorce rates ranging from 1.13 for China to 3.97 for Hong Kong.
The article you posted has to do with US.
Good Night Owl 20/mai./2024 às 10:52 
People stopped taking religion seriously.
Wenda 20/mai./2024 às 10:54 
some people are poly but see it as a sin ig
Arvaos 20/mai./2024 às 11:12 
Escrito originalmente por Dog⛧:
some people are poly but see it as a sin ig

That's true, that's an excellent point.

Polyamory isn't taboo anymore and there are alternative relationship models to marriage and family.
MrSteel300 20/mai./2024 às 11:22 
i don't know, maybe cause furry wifus are better then irl women?
Arvaos 20/mai./2024 às 11:34 
Escrito originalmente por AdahnGorion:
You might find this interesting
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/divorce-rates-by-country

Wow, the US is in the top 10.
Boblin the Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 11:56 
Escrito originalmente por Arvaos:
Escrito originalmente por AdahnGorion:
You might find this interesting
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/divorce-rates-by-country

Wow, the US is in the top 10.
The raw numbers ignore things like how divorces are handled, the legal process, and if divorces are even allowed without very specific/strict reasons.
AdahnGorion 20/mai./2024 às 12:36 
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Escrito originalmente por Arvaos:

Wow, the US is in the top 10.
The raw numbers ignore things like how divorces are handled, the legal process, and if divorces are even allowed without very specific/strict reasons.

Even in countries where its pretty hard to get, the rate is high as well
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