Tattoos

[Netaris]

First, read this : https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35592919/

Now my question : Were you aware of this ? Does it change your opinion on tattoos ?

[Netaris]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Breathe:

What do you suggest to help remove all contaminants from everything, including food, skin care and hair care, etc? What do you do in your daily life that makes you feel that you're in a position to judge anyone else's responses?

Ultimately, these responses shouldn't be all that surprising when we have more people than ever -even young people- pumping themselves full of chemicals, such as botulinum neurotoxins like botox to prevent muscle movement and lessen wrinkles and Capsaicin to plump up their lips. That's just a couple examples of people choosing pain or toxins not only over health but in preference for "beauty." But the reality is, oftentimes we're not even choosing it due to the contaminants permitted in products we use regularly.

Where do you read a judgement from me here exactly ? All I do is asking : Look or health, what do you prioritize ? Feel free to respond whatever you want. I'm interested about people's priorities here, without the usual BS. Reason why I take a popular practice, that also happen to be unhealthy to an extent, so it will not be a theorical easy to answer question, but a real choice to make.

That's the reasonning behind it, see what peoples will prioritize in front of a real choice, not a théorical one, to see the real reactions.

So far, peoples seem to prioritize the look over the health and there some strong emotional responses too. My analysis is, some peoples may not accept that a practice they like may be associated with something "unhealthy". At least, I don't see those responses as rational ones.

Feel free to continue debating about it and so on, I find this thread very interesting and the results aren't the ones I expected at the start btw.

[Breathe]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Netaris:

Where do you read a judgement from me here exactly ? All I do is asking : Look or health, what do you prioritize ? Feel free to respond whatever you want. I'm interested about people's priorities here, without the usual BS.
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Feel free to continue debating about it and so on, I find this thread very interesting and the results aren't the ones I expected at the start btw.

That's fair, perhaps i was inferring a judgment based on your responses. If I can ask why you thought responses would be otherwise?

I guess I've been a bit surrounded by these things for so long it doesn't strike me as odd when people choose insecurities or veneer over health or substance. Plus, it's not as though our culture in and of itself isn't toxic. Everything about it; how we farm, how we manufacture, the products we use, the food we eat. There is always going to be some level of that present and I guess in nature itself, it's not unheard of to find toxins there.

I suppose if the question was one of those "would you rather" have health or beauty for the rest of your life, my choice would be health. But that's coming from someone who's gone through health issues and who finds beauty from within.

[Netaris]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Breathe:

That's fair, perhaps i was inferring a judgment based on your responses. If I can ask why you thought responses would be otherwise?

Oh simple, because I'm biaised. That's why I like those results as those helped me to spot it. I focus a lot on my health, for reasons, you know, sick relatives who end badly, that kind of stuff you don't want for yourself or other relatives. So you learn stuff to give good advices and change your own habits.

I'm also very insensible to popular things, as I see those things as temporary and unstable. Popular things become obsolete quickly. So, in my mind, I was sure most peoples will choose the long term rational thing : Would you increase the risks to devellop a cancer, for a temporary satisfaction that may become unpopular in the future ? My response : Not worth it.

So yep, I was genuinely surprised by these responses, especially because almost nobody choosed the health one.

[steven1mac]

You want a natural alternative, I hear branding is still a thing in certain regions of the world.

[Netaris]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από steven1mac:

You want a natural alternative, I hear branding is still a thing in certain regions of the world.

Nah, I don't care about tattoos, but thanks. ^^

[Elation]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Effigy:

afaik, it's not really common still to use inks with heavy metals in them, but yes inks that do contain heavy metals are pretty bad for you. ingredients can also cause allergic reactions in people.

personally? i don't care what people want to do with their bodies in this regard; that said it's probably best to do your research if you're going to get one but idk depending on local regulations it might not be easy to find out all ingredients in the ink

i'm also a māori new zealander though and tattoos are part of my culture, so i feel a little differently about it than a lot of people in some other cultures do

I don't think I've ever talked to a Maori person so I really have to ask, since it's somewhat relevant to the topic...what is your opinion of white people getting tattoos that look like Maori tattoos?

Anyway, to answer the question of the thread: I don't want tattoos, never have, and probably never will. I was also already aware that putting heavy metals into your skin is bad for your health. But that said, if someone wants to get tattoos, it's their right. Especially seeing as for some, it actually is a cultural thing, like for the person I just quoted.

[Ulfrinn]

If people lives their lives according to what they read from groups like this, they and their lives would be boring, uneventful, and uninteresting, and they would still die at the same time as the rest of us.

By all means, get a tattoo, have a drink, smoke a cigar, it's no worse for you than going through life paranoid, nervous, and high strung that something is going to sneak up and get you.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Netaris:

What do you value more ? Your health or how you look

That depends on the context. If looks were the only thing important to me I would be on steroids. I'm not. However, I feel any "risk" from my tattoos was well worth it to cover up a bunch of nasty looking scar tissue.

[Caldari Ghost]

"Today, tattooing has become very popular among people all over the world. Tattooists, with the help of tiny needles, place tattoo ink inside the skin surface and unintentionally introduce a large number of unknown ingredients. These ingredients include polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), heavy metals, and primary aromatic amines (PAAs), which are either unintentionally introduced along with the ink or produced inside the skin by different types of processes for example cleavage, metabolism and photodecomposition. These could pose toxicological risks to human health, if present beyond permissible limits. PAH such as Benzo(a)pyrene is present in carbon black ink. PAAs could be formed inside the skin as a result of reductive cleavage of organic azo dyes. They are reported to be highly carcinogenic by environmental protection agencies. Heavy metals, namely, cadmium, lead, mercury, antimony, beryllium, and arsenic are responsible for cancer, neurodegenerative diseases"


"neurodegenerative diseases" impossible

[apathy]

IMO most look ugly and the colors fade over the years making them even uglier. Tattoos are mainly done in America to show you have an affiliation to gangs.

Most employers won't hire you if they see you covered in them, so I wouldn't bother with them.

[Hobbit XIII]

Tattoos are outdated now in my personal humble opinion.

If you got tattoos for something that means I follow this code or religion etc etc for life then its understandable.

Many are not that.

I would prefer the culture of paying money for some good artwork that could fade over time and be either topped up or get another thing.

As really as uncool as it is, in the Big Bang Theory when Raj and Howard bought tattoo sleeves to wear I thought that was a great idea it means you get to change them whenever you want rather than look like a pillock who drew on themselves with a big marker.

I got tattoo that means something because the person who did it died and it is as gnarly as you can imagine but its still there faded and in remembrance (whenever I care to remember that is).

Generally I see people with them and think need attention much?

What really cool counter culture thing you got slapped on yourself?

Oh a Celtic thing and what do you do that is ancient Celtic or what is it you strongly believe in from them?
Oh nothing what a surprise, carry on plastic people, be 'edgy' .

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Intelligent Jew Businessman:

Tattoos are trashy. Who cares if they are bad for your health. They look like ♥♥♥♥, always.

Agree.

[Krypto]

Tattoos are artistic expression, which is fine, but then you have people who get dumb looking ♥♥♥♥ like skulls on their fingers.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Hobbit XIII:

Oh a Celtic thing and what do you do that is ancient Celtic or what is it you strongly believe in from them?
Oh nothing what a surprise, carry on plastic people, be 'edgy' .

My tattooist refuses to do anything tribal, names, etc...... Just does proper art work.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ulfrinn:

If people lives their lives according to what they read from groups like this, they and their lives would be boring, uneventful, and uninteresting, and they would still die at the same time as the rest of us.

By all means, get a tattoo, have a drink, smoke a cigar, it's no worse for you than going through life paranoid, nervous, and high strung that something is going to sneak up and get you.

This is very true.

The thing I've noticed though is that many of the younger generation nowadays are so serious. I honestly don't get it? Let your hair down, party, you only live once.