Are we parasites? The human species.

[Don Cool]

I asked Gemini, Chat GPT´s cousin, whether Earth would consider us to be parasites if it was sentient. Hypothetical question of course and somewhat thought provoking.

Here is the answer:

From the viewpoint of a sentient planet, there's a strong case to be made that humans are currently acting like parasites. Here's why:

Unsustainable Consumption: Our consumption of resources far exceeds the planet's ability to replenish them. We're using up resources like water, fossil fuels, and fertile land at an alarming rate.

Ecological Damage: Our actions are causing widespread environmental damage. Deforestation, pollution, and climate change all disrupt ecosystems and threaten biodiversity.

Focus on Short-Term Gains: Many human actions prioritize immediate gain over long-term consequences. This shortsighted approach can exacerbate environmental problems.


I am a happy little parasite though, will continue to consume until everything falls apart or my demise, whatever comes first.

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

Yes, you humans are a cancer, or a virus.

There is a very significant misplacement of vanity for the human race that the vast majority of humanity has. Religion helps to mindlessly reinforce that.

Which probably explains why so many individuals would explain away UFOs as metaphysical or supernatural etc. instead of a superior species. Humans are less willing to believe there is a superior living thing compared to them than some metaphysical or supernatural presence that has no actual plausibility. All of this coincides and intertwines with the topic at hand.

The refusal to embrace animal rights and similar ideals is another good indication that one is detached from that reality and wants to promote humanity and lie about historical and current events. Similar to environmental issues in general.

Something else is about people who want to assert that culture/tradition/status quo always supersedes everything else. Most governments seem to worry about that and are afraid of losing the status quo and also thus promote political imagery of religion to help attract a base that they lie to.

[gugnihr]

Oh if the planet considers us parasites then I will think twice next time before coming here.

OH CRAP WAIT I JUST REMEMBERED.... it was NOT me who decided to come onto this planet in the first place... umh....

Also well, I would care a lot more about the long term consequences of my actions if I was allowed to live eternally, but instead I know that after a few years (around only 100 years in the most optimistic hypotesis) I will have to die, and let me think who is the one who decided that I had to die for sure anyway?

People who really believe that we are in the wrong that we are treating nature wrong and we are guilty and nature is our victim should just kill themselves to make things better both in their own opinion and in my opinion too.

[Pocahawtness]

Originally posted by Don Cool:

I asked Gemini, Chat GPT´s cousin, whether Earth would consider us to be parasites if it was sentient. Hypothetical question of course and somewhat thought provoking.

Here is the answer:

From the viewpoint of a sentient planet, there's a strong case to be made that humans are currently acting like parasites. Here's why:

Unsustainable Consumption: Our consumption of resources far exceeds the planet's ability to replenish them. We're using up resources like water, fossil fuels, and fertile land at an alarming rate.

Ecological Damage: Our actions are causing widespread environmental damage. Deforestation, pollution, and climate change all disrupt ecosystems and threaten biodiversity.

Focus on Short-Term Gains: Many human actions prioritize immediate gain over long-term consequences. This shortsighted approach can exacerbate environmental problems.


I am a happy little parasite though, will continue to consume until everything falls apart or my demise, whatever comes first.

I think it comes down to whether you consider life itself to be a positive or negative thing.

When the planet was formed, there was no life. Surface of the earth was devoid of trees and plants of any type. The seas were empty. In fact, the atmosphere and sea were toxic. They've been transformed into something friendly to humans over billions of years by early microorganisms. The Earth may consider that early change as something terrible! It may hate ALL life! So, you never know, the planet may like what humans are doing. They are bringing about a possible end to all life. Returning the earth to it's original barren, toxic state.

My own view is that yes, we are parasites, and we deserve to become extinct. I wish it were different, but we have shown that we just don't deserve to survive. The world will be a wonderful place without us, even if there is no one left to appreciate it.

[talemore]

You're only a parasite in the society.

Money is like oxygen.

Too much and it will kill you.

Too little you will die

And the oxygen is created by the parasites.

It is a fact that there is a limit on how many people can live on the planet.

The plants will continue long time after you died.

Some call them power plants.

[talemore]

You may not notice that oxygen is ignitive.

Yes too much of oxygen would kill you.

Nuclear bombs are depending on oxygen to work and why they are chemical weapons.

The oxygen would create a firestorm who sweep across land who makes battlefield earth gas planet bursting up in flames closer to your reality.

Before bacteria wood wouldn't decompose.

This created the oil reserves today.

That is why oil companies think that life is a parasite since without life there be no decompose.

But this sort of idea of yourself not being alive and using the propagate that if no life would be on earth you could create more oil. It itself has only one purpose than to be consumed as

Without decompose oil was created and nature found a way to solve a problem we think is a problem.

[Kobs]

Originally posted by Restart the Cycle:

Agent Smith gave a pretty good defnition of the human species.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgS1Lwr8gq8

Bingo ! and I would add, some races are more in this caterogy than others. Just look at the ones who can't resolve their problems and move to other countries to have a better life instead of fixing.... so what happens... they screw up where they go just like where they were before... just like a virus

[causality]

Latin chorus jrpg has entered the chat.

[I STAPLE TAPEWORMS ON MY]

useless thread

[KOSA👍]

Originally posted by Don Cool:

Originally posted by nullpo:

asking a language learning bot is not really the most reliable method of answering that question anyways.

Hmmm, I thought it gave a perfectly plausible answer.

That's the problem with Ai. People instantly give it credibility like it's all knowing.

[talemore]

Originally posted by Restart the Cycle:

Agent Smith gave a pretty good defnition of the human species.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgS1Lwr8gq8

Taken out of context since Smith is the robots and they saying since they are hooked to the matrix they can not move around.

Subliminal messages are everywhere in the matrix where every action has a counter reaction showing that inside the society no good deeds goes unpunished.

What he said is not true. Birds move around, they move to new places.

One can look at growth and see that during winter biomass decline and comes back again in cycles of summer and winter.

It is a fact that this is the only place we can live.

We may not see ourself as ants but if ants were as big as humans do we call them virus.

Do we call bees virus. No. The whole thing is a diversion to ensure that you looked upon as the fault when birds makes nests.

Even plants are virus. It spreads underneath the ground and consume everything. All water and minerals is taken by the trees until it dies.

[D. Flame]

Chatbots are stupid, but the human species is a virus.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Don Cool:

Are we parasites? The human species.

sorry haven't read the thread

here's something to consider.

life outside of our planet. what if there is or isn't life outside of our planet.

ask someone and what's more common? it's that someone will say there is life as "we can't be the only forms of life in the vast universe"


ok if that's what's the most common answer. what are the impacts?

if there's life outside of our planet, then we can survive on other planets, thus we don't need to take care of this planet


it's something to think about. i heard this line of reasoning from a podcast about AI, the popular one, that question is asked to almost everyone who lex fridman interviews related to ai, but only one person answered that they didn't believe life outside of earth is possible nor is it healthy.

the ending of ad astra had a similar outcome. where the belief of life outside of earth almost led to the destruction of earth.


it's good thoughts

[apathy]

Originally posted by C4Warr10r:

What parasite is capable of saving its host? No kidding, we have the technology and ability today, to gravity tractor the whole damn solar system to another star so it won't die when the sun does.

We don't have that kind of technology. Technology has its limits. Moving entire solar systems is physically and economically, impossible.

It would take a couple billion years,

We don't have a couple of billion years. I don't even have 50 years left on this miserable planet of the apes.

[steven1mac]

All living things that do not produce their own food could be considered parasitic.

[Naedmi]

Short answer? No.

Every living organism consumes something to survive so through machine learning to need to consume something to survive could be a determining factor for them in claiming you're a parasite or not.

But realistically a parasite is something that survives and does nothing to improve life in any way, their own or other people around them. Only deeply nihilistic or people suffering from depression would feel like they've never done anything to help in some way.

And being a parasite is a politicians job, not many of those around.