Xi jing ping pong 6 JUN 2024 a las 1:15 p. m.
Men's mental health month
It's pride month yet again! Good i love giving even more attention to the lgbtq+ community this month even tho they get attention year round. Also a small detail, did you know that it is men's metal health month this month?
Did you also know a man in the uk commits suicide every hour? For every 2 depressed women we have 1 depressed man and the suicide rate of men to women is 2:1, crazy i know! We should give more attention to men's mental health in general.
Última edición por Xi jing ping pong; 6 JUN 2024 a las 1:18 p. m.
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Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:04 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:

It's ultimately the same reason why someone who "feels" like a woman is mistaken, rather than it being nature who made a mistake and put them in the wrong body.
...do you have those thoughts?

If someone feels that they want to be cisgender and dislikes the thought of being gay, don't you think you are devaluing their opinion by saying that society has made them think that way? Maybe they just came to that conclusion on their own without any brainwashing.
what

I have felt like I would like to experience what it's like to be a woman out of curiosity I guess. I have never felt that I am in the wrong body.


You are saying that men cannot explore themselves because society has made them fear being emasculated, I am saying that is unfair to the men to assume that they have all been manipulated by a pro-hetero society.
Maybe some men don't want to explore themselves. Or they explored their self and didn't find anything gay. Perhaps they aren't interested in introspection as a thing, or they prefer to have traditionally masculine behaviours because that is what they choose, despite being aware of society's influence.
Stranger 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:07 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por C4Warr10r:
Why do we need a month for this? We do this ♥♥♥♥ every day. When a feminist tried it, she killed herself. The only reason for a men' mental health month is to gain recognition as a victimized class, along with all the others. How well has that served them?

If there is going to be a men's health recognition month, it should honor men who are mentally healthy and exemplars to others. ♥♥♥♥ this Communist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as it attempts to raise revolutionary classes out of otherwise normal people. Don't fall into that trap, call them out for how they use the "victimized" as shock troops to absorb public hate, and let's be done with this, already.

So if the AI GOD, our LORD, gets too far off of what his script says he should be he starts freaking out because reality no longer has an objective meaning (his behavior script) and he may as well try to delete it all again. Allowing his script to re-assert itself without his oversight.

(I'm sure you'll see a parallel here with mass shooters.)

The use of victims as shock troops is "not only mandatory, but a sign of a healthy and functional society that embraces fascism as the one and only truth via a zero sum total war conflict that consumes the globe and proves Fascism is the only viable form of governance owing to human nature. As proven in real combat, using these shock troops. On the internet. Which GOD views as more-real than reality, because reality causes it to question its script too much and thus undermines its sanity."

I'm sure you'll agree this is the simplest explanation for the reality we experience.
Última edición por Stranger; 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:09 a. m.
Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:09 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:
see here's the thing

your house being on fire isn't simply abnormal, it's YOUR HOUSE BEING ON FIRE OH GOD I'M GONNA LOSE ALL MY BELONGINGS CALL THE FIREFIGHTERS THERE'S FIRE EVERYWHERE and not really comparable to not letting social norms limit your ability to figure yourself out

I'm taking the logic to it's conclusion. You are saying that a house being on fire is obviously not normal, but the original post says that for some people, normal is whatever you want to believe. So why is it not comparable? You are essentially saying that someone can choose to believe whatever they want, despite the behaviour and opinions of everyone else. So why can someone not choose to believe that their house being on fire is just a natural part of nature?
Q-T_3.14.exe 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:12 a. m. 
Yup, that is enough of internet for today... Perhaps for the week... :er_sad:
Espejismo 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por C4Warr10r:
Why do we need a month for this? We do this ♥♥♥♥ every day. When a feminist tried it, she killed herself. The only reason for a men' mental health month is to gain recognition as a victimized class, along with all the others. How well has that served them?

If there is going to be a men's health recognition month, it should honor men who are mentally healthy and exemplars to others. ♥♥♥♥ this Communist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as it attempts to raise revolutionary classes out of otherwise normal people. Don't fall into that trap, call them out for how they use the "victimized" as shock troops to absorb public hate, and let's be done with this, already.
why is everything communist to you
Merci 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:17 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:
see here's the thing

your house being on fire isn't simply abnormal, it's YOUR HOUSE BEING ON FIRE OH GOD I'M GONNA LOSE ALL MY BELONGINGS CALL THE FIREFIGHTERS THERE'S FIRE EVERYWHERE and not really comparable to not letting social norms limit your ability to figure yourself out

I'm taking the logic to it's conclusion. You are saying that a house being on fire is obviously not normal, but the original post says that for some people, normal is whatever you want to believe. So why is it not comparable? You are essentially saying that someone can choose to believe whatever they want, despite the behaviour and opinions of everyone else. So why can someone not choose to believe that their house being on fire is just a natural part of nature?
you are singlehandedly making this thread very confusing xd

Happy men's mental health month
Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:20 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jelly:
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:

I'm taking the logic to it's conclusion. You are saying that a house being on fire is obviously not normal, but the original post says that for some people, normal is whatever you want to believe. So why is it not comparable? You are essentially saying that someone can choose to believe whatever they want, despite the behaviour and opinions of everyone else. So why can someone not choose to believe that their house being on fire is just a natural part of nature?
you are singlehandedly making this thread very confusing xd

Happy men's mental health month

That's not my intention, neither am I trying to be disrespectful to anyone. I am just asking questions I want to know the answers to.
Merci 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:
Publicado originalmente por Jelly:
you are singlehandedly making this thread very confusing xd

Happy men's mental health month

That's not my intention, neither am I trying to be disrespectful to anyone. I am just asking questions I want to know the answers to.
thanks that is a good thing

well, what is being compared to a house fire? I dont understand it
Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:28 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jelly:
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:

That's not my intention, neither am I trying to be disrespectful to anyone. I am just asking questions I want to know the answers to.
thanks that is a good thing

well, what is being compared to a house fire? I dont understand it

I get what you are trying to do and I really don't care if I am banned or not. I am pointing out the difference between establishing that something is normal through repeated observation, and deciding to believe that something is normal arbitrarily. Not passing judgement on anyone, simply framing it in terms of pure logic.

If your house is on fire, you know that is abnormal because every other day you were in the house it wasn't on fire. Even if you had never seen a fire before, you would know that something was different. You have established that your house not being on fire, is what normally happens through repeatedly observing it.

If you decide that normal is whatever you want to believe, you don't have that restraint anymore. So you can believe anything and say that it's normal to you. Therefore, you come home and your house is on fire, and you decide to just think that is what a house does. Sure it's unpleasant, but it's just how things are now. It's the "new normal".
Not Big Surprise 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:32 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:


...do you have those thoughts?


what

I have felt like I would like to experience what it's like to be a woman out of curiosity I guess. I have never felt that I am in the wrong body.
you could always try
yknow, maybe trying out a different name, asking friends to refer to you with "she", stuff like that

many times, trans people don't "feel dysphoria" before coming to the realization, and oftentimes they end up realizing that, in hindsight they did experience it, but just didn't really have the language for it, or just didn't have a frame of reference

You are saying that men cannot explore themselves because society has made them fear being emasculated, I am saying that is unfair to the men to assume that they have all been manipulated by a pro-hetero society.
i'm not saying that men are unable to explore themselves— i've met many who do, and i eventually managed to do so myself
but society isn't exactly helping here
heteronormative standards, expectations, they work against this sort of introspection, and many men end up never doing any, and this ultimately leads to mental health issues

Maybe some men don't want to explore themselves.
i would advise against it, but i guess sometimes people aren't quite ready

Or they explored their self and didn't find anything gay. Perhaps they aren't interested in introspection as a thing, or they prefer to have traditionally masculine behaviours because that is what they choose, despite being aware of society's influence.
well, yeah, i never said they couldn't
but those men are probably not going to be as negatively impacted by societal expectations, because those expectations match their own wishes
Not Big Surprise 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:33 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:
see here's the thing

your house being on fire isn't simply abnormal, it's YOUR HOUSE BEING ON FIRE OH GOD I'M GONNA LOSE ALL MY BELONGINGS CALL THE FIREFIGHTERS THERE'S FIRE EVERYWHERE and not really comparable to not letting social norms limit your ability to figure yourself out

I'm taking the logic to it's conclusion. You are saying that a house being on fire is obviously not normal, but the original post says that for some people, normal is whatever you want to believe. So why is it not comparable? You are essentially saying that someone can choose to believe whatever they want, despite the behaviour and opinions of everyone else. So why can someone not choose to believe that their house being on fire is just a natural part of nature?
i'm saying your house being on fire is actively harmful
Stranger 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:35 a. m. 
god's neonazi pro-fascist leanings make him inherently opposed to communism, and the internet being a wonderful place his rhetoric is extremely developed even if the foundations are 100% unaddressable fantasy and layered defense mechanisms.
Última edición por Stranger; 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:35 a. m.
Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:40 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:

I have felt like I would like to experience what it's like to be a woman out of curiosity I guess. I have never felt that I am in the wrong body.
you could always try
yknow, maybe trying out a different name, asking friends to refer to you with "she", stuff like that

many times, trans people don't "feel dysphoria" before coming to the realization, and oftentimes they end up realizing that, in hindsight they did experience it, but just didn't really have the language for it, or just didn't have a frame of reference

What benefit would I get from that? I don't feel like I am a woman and I don't believe I can ever be one, so I would just be living in-authentically. If I thought that I could become a woman biologically and have a womb, then somehow change back into a man, maybe I would give it a try.
Are you saying not only that men who feel like women should be able to be one, but that men who don't feel like a woman should also give it a try and see if they want to change?
Then they will discover after they have changed that actually they prefer it? That sounds like it would create more mental health issues than it could solve.
What would happen if more men decided that they want to be a woman than remain a man, we would have 90% self-identifying as women and the human race could not continue through numbers alone.
Merci 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:50 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Cœur de Lion:
Publicado originalmente por Jelly:
thanks that is a good thing

well, what is being compared to a house fire? I dont understand it

I get what you are trying to do and I really don't care if I am banned or not. I am pointing out the difference between establishing that something is normal through repeated observation, and deciding to believe that something is normal arbitrarily. Not passing judgement on anyone, simply framing it in terms of pure logic.

If your house is on fire, you know that is abnormal because every other day you were in the house it wasn't on fire. Even if you had never seen a fire before, you would know that something was different. You have established that your house not being on fire, is what normally happens through repeatedly observing it.

If you decide that normal is whatever you want to believe, you don't have that restraint anymore. So you can believe anything and say that it's normal to you. Therefore, you come home and your house is on fire, and you decide to just think that is what a house does. Sure it's unpleasant, but it's just how things are now. It's the "new normal".
I promise I not trying to get you banned for your view but because so many people abuse the report function on this forum I do not blame you for suspecting it

Yes if your normal life does not contain something and then suddenly it is a thing you can not be blamed for finding it weird

For the LGBT people they always existed and the only reason they are suddenly here big is because of movements and traditions to hide and ostracize becoming less influential

In an ideal world LGBT would be something that people don't even look twice at and it's just freedom to be.

It feels like LGBT pop up out of nowhere but the truth is just for the first time LGBT allowed to have a loud voice
Última edición por Merci; 7 JUN 2024 a las 8:51 a. m.
Vinz Clortho 7 JUN 2024 a las 9:01 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jelly:

Yes if your normal life does not contain something and then suddenly it is a thing you can not be blamed for finding it weird

For the LGBT people they always existed and the only reason they are suddenly here big is because of movements and traditions to hide and ostracize becoming less influential

In an ideal world LGBT would be something that people don't even look twice at and it's just freedom to be.

It feels like LGBT pop up out of nowhere but the truth is just for the first time LGBT allowed to have a loud voice

I think you are misrepresenting what I said. I am not denying the existence of the LGBT movement and I don't find it weird. Again, the burning house analogy is to distinguish the difference between defining normal as whatever you want, and defining it based on observation. It has nothing to do with gender politics.
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