The Acolyte (Cancelled) - A new low for Star Wars?

[AdahnGorion]

The new Acolyte series is out now (with two episodes) and the reception have been lukewarm so far. Currently it is sitting at 4.9 stars on IMDB
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12262202/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_acoly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0kVcKX1Ny0


I am sure that Amazon (whom owns IMDB) will remove many reviews, but it still seems like most "fans" dislike the new approach that was tried with this new series.
The series is created by Leslye Headland, whom is well know for controversial talks about what they think SW fans are and that they want a new fanbase.

Their approach to me would be the same if you tried to sell boats in Nepal, insisting that even if there is no need or demand for it, then the Nepalese would just be discriminative or bigots, if they did not buy said boats....... seems really odd.


Have you seen the series? what do you think about it? do you want to see it? do you think the reviews are trolling or genuine? lets us all know in the comments.


Personally I don´t think there is anything wrong with the series outside what looks like a lack of demand. It does seem like many reviews are genuine and that the story, characters and so forth feel pretty flat and uninteresting. I fully respect people that might like this, but I think its far away from classic SW lore.

This show have been cancelled!
https://deadline.com/2024/08/the-acolyte-canceled-no-season-2-star-wars-disney-plus-1236044233/

Have a wonderful day all and remember to be friendly and constructive.

[SHAZBOT]

everything after return of the sith is a new low for star wars

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

EU remains the only canon I accept...

Disney made most EU non canon.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Blue-Eyes White Dragon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=974MvV4oodU

It's somehow getting worse with a lesbian witch coven musical

The thing is. we don´t have to watch it.. nobody force us (pun intended)
To me SW have been dead for a long time in terms of its classic approach.. I don´t get angry about it changing, I just have no interest in it (there are so many alternatives to art now a days)

[Jackie Daytona]

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

That makes sense.
Since Disney´s approach have been to divert from the visions of Lucas and instead mek up their own new lore for the universe.
They don´t want remnants lying around

To be fair, they are using elements from the 'Clone Wars' cartoon. There's a whole thing with Darth Maul's origin and the witches. Spanning quite a few episodes.

At the same time... it wasn't a great arc. And would be best forgotten. Star Wars didn't need magic added. It already had "The Force".

You know what else wasn't great? The dubious nature of Anakin's conception. It was a heavy-handed allegory to the story of Jesus. No offense to anyone, but it wasn't appropriate for Star Wars. It's a long time ago in a galaxy far away. Not earth 2000 years ago.

...but here we are. Rehashing it. Further canonizing it.

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

They are playing it safe, they are filling the requirements for Vanguard and Blackrock investments.

Yeah, they literally don't care about anything but money. "Oh! You'll give us more money if we do whatever you want?"

"Don't ask questions. Just consume product. Then get excited for next product."

Hollywood (and particularly Disney) no longer hires creative people. Your work? Doesn't matter. Your skill? Doesn't matter. Your resume? Doesn't matter. All that matters is your gender, skin color, and sexuality.

They hire people to head up $100+ million projects with barely any experience. People tell me, "If you work hard enough, you'll eventually make it." Disney proves that's not the case. You win by checking all the right boxes. If you can't check any boxes? Even McDonald's won't hire you.

Publicado originalmente por AustrAlien2010:

Didn't George sold it's brainchild to Disney? It obviously won't be the same. It's a completely different person.

Worse. Not only did he sell it. Part of his compensation was shares in Disney stock. Which he has now sold back to Disney.

He gave up having any possible say in the way Star Wars is handled. Now and forever.

[Coinkydink]

Diseaseney

[Pocahawtness]

I don't understand why Disney has become obsessed with trying to send "social messages" and has completely forgotten to make things "entertaining". It could have been a good show but Disney just employed and cast completely the wrong people. The entire show is lacklustre and the lead actress is very forgettable.

[Hammer Of Evil]

well when george sold it in 2012, i stopped calling it 'starwars'

its something but its not starwars. lol.

[gentillak500]

www.starwars.com/redhorrors

[Jackie Daytona]

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

I fully agree that the Anakin story was just as awful done (they basically lore blocked it btw, so they did fix that) So I rather say the reintroduced it, just with a female witch covern spin.. but the thread thing.. that is damaging to the entire franchise (but as I said its been dead for long)
Magic has no place in SW...


V & B will do something else eventually because all the matters is money.. the consumers and investors are pretty much in charge, they just don´t understand that.
With that being said, its hard to not invest with them or alongside them.. I own Disney, Microsoft, Paradox, etc.. stocks.. then again.. I also own plenty of defence stock (I invested alot into it just before and at the start of the war)

V & B might be showcasing protocals, but most companies are not complient, but since they make their own reports, they make it seems like it. Take Gambling, that is a big offence for them, yet they invest in EA.....


But lets return to the focus on the series premise and what is happening and will happen.

Sorry if you felt like I was diverging from the topic. But, I mean... it's all Star Wars, right?

I think the entire premise for 'The Acolyte' series is flawed. Twins that were magically created. That's... I don't think I have the words for how bad of an idea that is.

I also hate the idea of making Jedi the bad guys. Like they are some oppressors or something.

It comes from a failure to understand that Jedi are like monks. They spend their ENTIRE LIVES suppressing urges and desires. Because in the Star Wars universe, untrained force sensitive people can get out of control. Really fast. Which is why they seek out children strong in the force. To keep them from falling to the dark side. Because all it takes is one catastrophic disaster to bend the galaxy. Just as it was with the emperor and Anakin. Everything they are about is trying to prevent the events of the end of episode 3.

Did they fail? Yes. But that's another part of the story. Their hubris. They wanted Anakin because they believed him to be "the chosen one". And he was. He did bring balance to the force. By killing all the Jedi. Because the Jedi systematically wiped out most of the sith and dark-side users.

Even after they sensed the dark growing inside him, they kept him around. Resulting in a massive disaster.

Lucas was right when he said, "No one understands The Force." It's not about amoral modern sensibilities. It's about objective good vs. evil. Any story making Jedi out to be evil shows a distinct lack of understanding of the source material.

[Ganger]

I have not seen this because I refused to sub to Disney+. But from what im hearing, the acolyte has destroyed starwars.

Plus im reading up on how disney want to change the terms... 'dark and light side of the force' because someone has said its racist, can't make this crap up. Who in the right mind after 50 years beliefs 'the dark and light side' refers to race.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Jackie Daytona:

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

I fully agree that the Anakin story was just as awful done (they basically lore blocked it btw, so they did fix that) So I rather say the reintroduced it, just with a female witch covern spin.. but the thread thing.. that is damaging to the entire franchise (but as I said its been dead for long)
Magic has no place in SW...


V & B will do something else eventually because all the matters is money.. the consumers and investors are pretty much in charge, they just don´t understand that.
With that being said, its hard to not invest with them or alongside them.. I own Disney, Microsoft, Paradox, etc.. stocks.. then again.. I also own plenty of defence stock (I invested alot into it just before and at the start of the war)

V & B might be showcasing protocals, but most companies are not complient, but since they make their own reports, they make it seems like it. Take Gambling, that is a big offence for them, yet they invest in EA.....


But lets return to the focus on the series premise and what is happening and will happen.

Lucas was right when he said, "No one understands The Force." It's not about amoral modern sensibilities. It's about objective good vs. evil. Any story making Jedi out to be evil shows a distinct lack of understanding of the source material.

I agree that the no one understands the Force.. Its Evil vs Good (yes its biased morale, but that is what it is)
If people want nuances they can do "Grey" Jedi/Siths, those do exist, that is fine to a certain degree, but turning the table and suddenly answering what the Force is, are not a good way to deal with this.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

Publicado originalmente por Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

EU remains the only canon I accept...

Disney made most EU non canon.

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ what Disney did. The Mouse doesn't rule me. Expanded Universe is my canon. The Acolyte certainly isn't.

[Катюша]

It is without a doubt the worst thing that has been done with Star Wars. It makes the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ prequel films look like masterpieces.

[Masque]

Even Polygon hasn't done an article on this show. The site which never ignores a Star Wars or Disney product.

They appear to be pretending it doesn't exist rather than pretending it's good.

So far, anyway. I wouldn't rule out an article or two written in this show's defense.

The comments will most likely be turned off.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

Disney made most EU non canon.

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ what Disney did. The Mouse doesn't rule me. Expanded Universe is my canon. The Acolyte certainly isn't.

Officially its not canon (I agree with you btw) but we are basically liking non canon fan fiction.