Vape

[skipper]

Just like cigarette should be banned in public places especially inside they are toxic and disgusting. I always make a point across when i get vaped on i still cough out loud just to make a point. Kill your self if you want but not others and dont invade other people clean air space with that crap.

[sage2001]

yeah, i dislike the smell, but who are you to dictate what another person does with their time?

[skipper]

Originally posted by sage2001:

yeah, i dislike the smell, but who are you to dictate what another person does with their time?

As long as its not in a public place and comes with health risk like passive vape they can. It just consideration. They be first people to yell at you when muzzles come back when im not wearing one. It just comes down to consideration. Its not about consideration though its not wanting to get the fine what comes with. The only reason people dont smoke inside.

[DoomsDay]

I miss how I normally feel when I talk to people, it used to be, this calming joyfulness, that my words are safe here in my body, their words is safe in their body. we both feel secured.
now, it feels like, really bad to conversate.it feels like there is nothing that they can offer me, not even this feeling.

I get jumpy all the time during conversation. things just came out of my mouth.

[Hobbit XIII]

I used to smoke cigarettes and cigars that was what I was brought up with.

When people coughed around me 'to make a point' it just told me they were too ill socialised to simply ask somebody if they minded to stop.
This was in the days when people could smoke in the streets / outside buildings and most pubs.

Personally I think they should have made more use of smoking only areas at that period in pubs and restaurants that were closed off and needing a door .

Nowadays and past so many years I agree vaping and smoking should not be allowed publicly.
It gets into peoples lungs and their clothes and hair and skin.

If a person spat out alcohol or food or a cup of tea and it hit people, that would be considered uncivilised and so the same should be seen with Vaping and smoking.

There are other nicotine products to use if a person is addicted that do not involve covering other people.

[sage2001]

Originally posted by skipper:

Originally posted by sage2001:

yeah, i dislike the smell, but who are you to dictate what another person does with their time?

As long as its not in a public place and comes with health risk like passive vape they can. It just consideration. They be first people to yell at you when muzzles come back when im not wearing one. It just comes down to consideration.

it's a public environment though. so long as there's nothing prohibiting it, i don't see the problem.

maybe you need one of those "muzzles" if it really bothers you.

[MinionJoe]

I'm pretty sure that vaping is already prohibited in government buildings.

Every other building is privately owned and they can set their own rules.

For outdoor spaces, you'll need to consult a surveyor.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

You don't sound very considerate either OP.

If you coughed out loud around me to make a point, I too would then make a point of intentionally blowing the smoke in your direction to see if you are big enough to back that cough up. And as you don't seem to have the confidence to talk to strangers, I'd say probably not.

[skipper]

Originally posted by ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

You don't sound very considerate either OP.

If you coughed out loud around me to make a point, I too would then make a point of intentionally blowing the smoke in your direction to see if you are big enough to back that cough up. And as you don't seem to have the confidence to talk to strangers, I'd say probably not.

Ive asked loads a people in shops not to vape i asked my neighbour below in last apartment not to vape in windows as it was just blowing into mine. All i get is its only water vapour what wrong with you. I tried explaining its not only water vapour and its got toxic chemicals and i dont want to be breathing it in especially in my own apartment when i got window open.

People only dont smoke now as said not for consideration its due to not wanting fines.

[sage2001]

Originally posted by skipper:

Originally posted by ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

You don't sound very considerate either OP.

If you coughed out loud around me to make a point, I too would then make a point of intentionally blowing the smoke in your direction to see if you are big enough to back that cough up. And as you don't seem to have the confidence to talk to strangers, I'd say probably not.

Ive asked loads a people in shops not to vape i asked my neighbour below in last apartment not to vape in windows as it was just blowing into mine. All i get is its only water vapour what wrong with you. I tried explaining its not only water vapour and its got toxic chemicals and i dont want to be breathing it in especially in my own apartment when i got window open.

People only dont smoke now as said not for consideration its due to not wanting fines.

if it's an apartment, then why don't you take it up with the landlord? maybe you two can compromise?

[Painkilleruk]

( Blowing a massive cloud at the screen while typing this )

As one of my companies is a vaping company... the issues with toxicity are also based on the quality of liquid. There are ones out there that use formaldehyde in their juice. I use only my company juice as I design it myself with only 4 ingredients 99% pharma grade. Trust me if I brought out my one of a kind harley quinn mod and put my goon RDA on it in one puff can hot box a car, 3 and hot box a room.
people can be such snowflakes, people complain to me all the time but you dont run from a boiling kettle do you? shut the F up. Basically good juice is nicotine or nic salt, flavouring food grade, pg and vg which is essentially liquid sugar. Should come to my shops vaping party sometime lol cut the fog with a chainsaw.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

Originally posted by skipper:

Originally posted by ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

You don't sound very considerate either OP.

If you coughed out loud around me to make a point, I too would then make a point of intentionally blowing the smoke in your direction to see if you are big enough to back that cough up. And as you don't seem to have the confidence to talk to strangers, I'd say probably not.

Ive asked loads a people in shops not to vape i asked my neighbour below in last apartment not to vape in windows as it was just blowing into mine. All i get is its only water vapour what wrong with you. I tried explaining its not only water vapour and its got toxic chemicals and i dont want to be breathing it in especially in my own apartment when i got window open.

People only dont smoke now as said not for consideration its due to not wanting fines.

Your original post only mentions public places. Your neighbours are well within their rights to vape in their own apartments. You'd hate live next to me, as you'd have the smell of ganja to worry about. For the record, nobody has ever complained to me about it. That said, I probably wouldn't take any notice, as it's my house, my rules. I wouldn't expect them to stop doing things in their homes that annoy me (e.g. late night party, etc...)

We all have to get along. It's called give and take....... They don't moan, I don't moan.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by m662:

The irony is that a lot of vapes are far worse than regular cigarettes. They did a study in my country this year about the effects from vapes kid use. Turns out they did not do any proper research about its effect before at all and regulating it.

Following are results from vapes kid use in Netherlands translated to english
https://www.rtl.nl/nieuws/artikel/5450560/wat-zit-er-vapes-vapes-van-nederlandse-kinderen-lab-onderzocht-bomvol-gif

8 of the 20 vapes contained (much) more nicotine than legally permitted
Formaldehyde was found in 7 of the 20 vapes
Lead was found in 3 of the 20 vapes
All 20 vapes had a larger capacity than legally permitted
Nickel, acetone, iron, acrolein, valeraldehyde and butyraldehyde have also been found in various vapes

One tested vape even contained 11 times more nicotine than the legal amount of 20 milligrams per milliliter of liquid. Westerink: "If you continue to smoke such a vape continuously and finish it in one go, it is without a doubt serious for your health and it could even be fatal."

In addition, it appears that all vapes examined had a larger content than legally permitted. Simply put, a vape may contain 600 hits, but all vapes examined were far above that. Some even had 15,000 hits.

So yeah enjoy inhaling literal poison. at this rate your better of using cannabis if legal in your country.

This looks like companies ignoring the regulation more than the vapes themselves being more harmful.

Luckily, regulation is quickly catching up.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by m662:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

This looks like companies ignoring the regulation more than the vapes themselves being more harmful.

Luckily, regulation is quickly catching up.

Lets hope soI have nothing against people damaging health if its a conscience choice and bare responsibility (guilty of that myself) but I highly doubt most are expecting to inhale lead particles or formaldehyde.

I have no qualm either with smoking in public. Indoor different story that should stay banned exception being own residence.

It 100% is ignoring current regulations.

Companies will try everything they can to cut corners and maximize their profits. For a good while, vaping was not classified under the same as tobacco. Companies knew this and exploited it for profit by cutting corners.

[Z]

And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers.
Al-Quran 51:55

[Crystal Sharrd]

They should be outlawed entirely along with cigarettes and other tobacco products.