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skipper 5 Jun 2024 @ 3:15am
Can you explain things.
Im not saying im a genius or anything but when it comes to explaining things i come a complete gibberish reck like Reg From Star Trek. Its clear in my mind what i want to say like explaining event what happened but speaking out loud it just comes a complete mess garbled story. Its Same with explaining films when someone askes what that film about or something I'm no good at explaining plot.
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That's because not everyone can be a teacher, I'd say. :happyrv:

There's another one that says: "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
Tangociss 5 Jun 2024 @ 3:41am 
I'd say I'm relatively half decent at explaining things, depending on the subject. I can explain it to them, but I can't understand it for them, as the saying goes.
To effectively explain things, you not only need to understand the thing itself; you also need to consider the person you're explaining it to. Many people have difficulty accounting for this.
tmwfte 5 Jun 2024 @ 4:17am 
Stuff, Coral. Stuff and things.
DoomsDay 5 Jun 2024 @ 4:41am 
I have been thinking what I have been doing here?
can I explain the source of my misery? seems I did a better work to tell people to accept misery.
yeah, my story to tell people accept misery, there really isnt much point grasp at words.
Morkonan 5 Jun 2024 @ 8:11am 
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To effectively explain things, you not only need to understand the thing itself; you also need to consider the person you're explaining it to. Many people have difficulty accounting for this.

^-- This.

It requires empathy and an ability to correctly predict what the other person knows and what they then need to know in order to understand what's being explained.

Some things can't be easily explained to a neophyte, though. At that point, the teacher has to have an excellent command of the material in order to get through explaining something comprehensibly. If they then actually want the audience to develop a working understanding of the material, they really need some professional training... Pay teachers well, folks. :)

eg: Physicists trying to explain a subject to an uninitiated audience that can only truly be explained using advanced mathematics.They'll apologize five times, first, then give three disclaimers about how incorrect the upcoming explanation is, then present what is touted as a very basic, largely incomplete, explanation of complex physics.
Einstein :
If you cannot explain it to a child you do not fully understand it yourself. - or something like that.

OP,
Start with the simplest of explanations of each point you want to make and build on them.

Star Trek, to a person with no knowledge of it.
Explaining Babylon 5 Deep Space Nine.

In the future there was James T Kirk and they were explorers and they went across space (insert Kirk's beginning speech).

Some generations later there was Picard and they did the same thing but got into more fights.

Then around that time they got a big space station from an alien race who were basically Nazis and lost the war and now everybody is in an uneasy era of peace that occasionally erupts in war.
There is a Ferengi with a bar on the space station and the show should have more of him in it.

And go from there.
no, its the one thing people complain to me about especially my business partner. Autistic + high IQ, thinking and talking on lower levels is extremely painful to do and explain to people. It is the thing we most argue about. To be fair to me though it took me 2 hours to make her understand how to use a DVD remote, trying to explain complex things I would need to take a few years off.
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no, its the one thing people complain to me about especially my business partner. Autistic + high IQ, thinking and talking on lower levels is extremely painful to do and explain to people. It is the thing we most argue about. To be fair to me though it took me 2 hours to make her understand how to use a DVD remote, trying to explain complex things I would need to take a few years off.

Autistic and at one point top 2% of the country (through real testing not the stuff online).

The worse thing for me is not explaining things to people I just simplify it for the forums because its amusing but in real things the difficulty for me is when people think they know better and pull up really idiotic points and so time is wasted trying to explain to them why it is wrong when if they just accepted the first point and let me continue they would get it so much faster.

And because the slower brain process of going through tons of information held in the brain trying to find examples they would understand quickly is actually like you said painful.

Job interviews, how do you tell the interviewer you achieve anything put to you and that everybody else is a lazy phoney?
I love to work and excel in the work place and others who do not see me as a nuisance making them look bad?

I have given up somewhat with people.
Painkilleruk 5 Jun 2024 @ 8:37am 
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no, its the one thing people complain to me about especially my business partner. Autistic + high IQ, thinking and talking on lower levels is extremely painful to do and explain to people. It is the thing we most argue about. To be fair to me though it took me 2 hours to make her understand how to use a DVD remote, trying to explain complex things I would need to take a few years off.

Autistic and at one point top 2% of the country (through real testing not the stuff online).

The worse thing for me is not explaining things to people I just simplify it for the forums because its amusing but in real things the difficulty for me is when people think they know better and pull up really idiotic points and so time is wasted trying to explain to them why it is wrong when if they just accepted the first point and let me continue they would get it so much faster.

And because the slower brain process of going through tons of information held in the brain trying to find examples they would understand quickly is actually like you said painful.

Job interviews, how do you tell the interviewer you achieve anything put to you and that everybody else is a lazy phoney?
I love to work and excel in the work place and others who do not see me as a nuisance making them look bad?

I have given up somewhat with people.

I am the same, fired from many jobs because I work 50x faster and harder than my co workers " you are not working as a team" cant keep up dont bother. This is why I started multiple companies as a director and ceo, you set the standard.
Morkonan 5 Jun 2024 @ 8:45am 
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no, its the one thing people complain to me about especially my business partner. Autistic + high IQ, thinking and talking on lower levels is extremely painful to do and explain to people. It is the thing we most argue about. To be fair to me though it took me 2 hours to make her understand how to use a DVD remote, trying to explain complex things I would need to take a few years off.

Try explaining the thing to yourself, but with the assumption that you, as the target, know nothing about the subject. Build the explanation out of "blocks of ideas" that support each other. Ignore trying to empathize with the recipient unless they ask a specific question, then treat it like your "ignorant self" is asking you that question. ie: You end up really "talking to yourself."

No, it would not be easy for someone high on the spectrum to "teach." I just avoided mentioning that... But, it should be obvious. A lot of people high on the spectrum are capable of otherwise remarkable manipulation of knowledge and skills, but suffer interpersonally. And, you can find a bunch of those in the hard sciences who can do amazing things, but can't talk to anyone about them who isn't a peer. :)
It's hit-or-miss

Sometimes I think it is a personality match / mismatch thing, there are some people who usually understand me, and some who never do :p
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no, its the one thing people complain to me about especially my business partner. Autistic + high IQ, thinking and talking on lower levels is extremely painful to do and explain to people. It is the thing we most argue about. To be fair to me though it took me 2 hours to make her understand how to use a DVD remote, trying to explain complex things I would need to take a few years off.

Try explaining the thing to yourself, but with the assumption that you, as the target, know nothing about the subject. Build the explanation out of "blocks of ideas" that support each other. Ignore trying to empathize with the recipient unless they ask a specific question, then treat it like your "ignorant self" is asking you that question. ie: You end up really "talking to yourself."

No, it would not be easy for someone high on the spectrum to "teach." I just avoided mentioning that... But, it should be obvious. A lot of people high on the spectrum are capable of otherwise remarkable manipulation of knowledge and skills, but suffer interpersonally. And, you can find a bunch of those in the hard sciences who can do amazing things, but can't talk to anyone about them who isn't a peer. :)

I get frustrated fast by the low intelligence and capacity to understand what to me is a simple premise. As we speak I am trying to teach my business partner how my 3d printing business works, her lack of intelligence is just setting me off. She keeps telling me I should use my abilities to help the planet. When she had ovarian cancer i fixed the problem and now her friend wants the same treatment however only reason I helped my business partner is, i never do my own smegging paperwork so need her but explaining this to her would make me jump off a cliff. I specialise in bio mechanics but you find that no matter what you do people assume your crazy instead of listening.
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Shiro♌ 5 Jun 2024 @ 9:15am 
I'd say, I'm near at the average.. Possibly below average, because the thought of accounting in the other person's knowledges and experiences that are related and could help with understanding the point or its concept has never come to my mind, or it's already a subconscious process that I always do while being unaware of it.

If I speak from my own experiences and from what I do remember.. Most people seem to understand my points fairly clearly, and if not, then the issue tends to lie behind the language barrier and being limited by my own knowledges of how to properly pronounce words and having the knowledge of enough words with the same meaning that'd fit the situation a lot better, making things even easier to understand for the person or people I'm talking to.
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