We should vote laws instead of politicians

[Tazor]

I feel like every single one of those guys has the exact same agenda. Tax cuts for the rich, no social welfare, automation, privatise everything, raise unemployment, support Ukraine, car focused urban design. Bla bla bla. They are all the same.

Around here another trend started among them. Where those rich guys pretend to be poor in order to get more votes. Doing stuff like filming themselves taking the subway or eating cheap bread and pink sausage with construction workers. Just disgusting behaviour.

So what's the point of voting if every single one of them will do the exact same thing? It's just a popularity contest. Choose your dictator day. Democracy my ass.

How about we vote on laws instead? Then you can actually have a say in something. Vote on how we spend money as well.



♥♥♥♥ spending trillions on useless American weapons that they can just shut down at the push of a button if they feel like it. Why not go the Swiss route of becoming impossible to conquer?

Why are we helping Ukraine again? It is very expensive for me. I am paying for this out of my own pocket without my consent. Paying just to create an endless grind. We should have either helped them hard at first to kick the Russians out or not get involved at all.

Why are we selling everything for pennies to rich private companies? Pretty much every service has been sold off. Currently exporting billions worth of gold almost for free to some Canadian company. No idea why.

Why did we build a giant highway between 2 villages? With no way to walk between them anymore. 20 years and still no overpass.

Why are the roads so hostile to pedestrians? They cut off every single tree and made the sidewalks absolutely tiny. Made it illegal to walk on plenty of roads. Nobody wants to walk anymore. Nobody can.

Local stores are firing everyone. Unemployment rising. No welfare. No need for them to pay extra taxes. Automated cash registers.

Moldy produce everywhere cos there is nobody left. Stinky rotten fish in the frozen aisle section. Report them to who for selling poisoned food? Why can't we just close the store on the spot if we find expired food?



♥♥♥♥ voting on politicians. They are all the same

[Scorpion]

No, not all politicians are the same. More often than not, it is a counter-productive argument, meant to dull people and their perception... Even mislead them.

For instance, with Trump there were no wars, the economy was better -not only in USA-, civilian-friendly policies were in effect (foiling of TTIP? which even benefit Europe) etc.

Likewise, Orban struggles to promote his own country's best interests, VS the (un)democratic cabal of derranged freaks in Brussels; which has led into him being blackmailed many times before, having national funds from european share with-held until he agrees with the rest, even threatened both for person and for country... Yet he still resists, trying to find a beneficial compromise for Hungary to strike european deals, against the pressure and the heat.

Or Putin, a true leader who runs his country with an iron fist, defends his nation against no less than 50 (!) countries combined and still wins!

Maybe, Fico? Who had the magnificence to forgive his would be killer, despite him operating like an agent and on payroll from the "west"? Even Georgia's Prime Minister was threatened from a European consul directly, to face Fico's fate, unless they withdrew the law forcing NGOs to be thoroughly examined (especially where their funding is coming from and on what agenda they function).

Much like all people from every strata, in politicians we have everything too. Not everyone out of them is the same and thankfully at that, too!

[Spencer]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tazor:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sarge Werbenjagermanjensen #1:

People die my friend, its a fact of life.

Oh. So we should all be legally allowed to sell poisoned food and kill people. So long as we pay some bribes. Gotcha.

And government regulation is responsible for food becoming poison again, simply look at fast food, seed oil replacing animal fats, high fructose replacing sugar, and a food pyramid turned upside down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evcNPfZlrZs




Multiethnic democracies do not survive as you end up having people vote along ethnic divisions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxqYRNv24h4

[RRW359]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Anoi Hidalgo:

Opprinnelig skrevet av RRW359:

But my State, which allows representative democracy to some degree, outlaws that. If it's illegal where I live it means it works. It also means it works if the jury decides to jail me even when it's their right to find me innocent if they want.

youre worrying too much about. Remember why youre doing this, they had the nerve to sell you expired soup!

You sound like you are being sarcastic but that's impossible because you said direct democracy would mean I don't get in trouble for that. A jury is a direct democracy, therefore either you are wrong and direct democracy works which means I get in trouble or you are right and I won't get in trouble because direct democracies don't work. You should be committing arson in order to prove your point.

[RRW359]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Anoi Hidalgo:

Opprinnelig skrevet av RRW359:

You sound like you are being sarcastic but that's impossible because you said direct democracy would mean I don't get in trouble for that. A jury is a direct democracy, therefore either you are wrong and direct democracy works which means I get in trouble or you are right and I won't get in trouble because direct democracies don't work. You should be committing arson in order to prove your point.

yeah yeah yeah, dont worry about that. This is fot the SOUP!

Do we agree or not? Is a direct democracy reliable? Because if I commit a crime I will be judged by a direct democracy.

You are the one trying to prove direct democracies can't be relied on therefore you have to commit arson, I'm saying they are reliable enough to deter and punish crimes which means my and your not wanting to commit crimes is proof they work. Show me I'm wrong.

[RRW359]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Anoi Hidalgo:

Opprinnelig skrevet av RRW359:

Do we agree or not? Is a direct democracy reliable? Because if I commit a crime I will be judged by a direct democracy.

You are the one trying to prove direct democracies can't be relied on therefore you have to commit arson, I'm saying they are reliable enough to deter and punish crimes which means my and your not wanting to commit crimes is proof they work. Show me I'm wrong.

yeah yeah yeah we agree on your plan. Now get to it, the soup wont avenge itself.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fNcYtcVn-8k&pp=ygUOY29kZSBtaW50IHNvdXA%3D

We agree direct democracy works and therefore deters and punished criminals, including those who commit arson for revenge. Thanks for this productive discussion where you changed your mind and didn't needlessly divert the conversation!