Honestly, I've been thinking about it, and Bruce Lee would probably be a bottom-tier amateur fighter in today's MMA scene.

[bananaigerai]

1. First off, Bruce Lee was mainly an actor. He never fought in a real MMA match, so he didn't have any actual fight experience. Most of what he did was choreographed for movies.
2. Modern MMA fighters train in multiple disciplines like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, and Wrestling. Bruce Lee mainly knew Kung Fu, which isn't as effective in a mixed martial arts setting.
3. Bruce didn't have a ground game. Today's fighters are skilled in grappling and submissions, and Bruce wouldn't have been able to keep up on the ground.
4. He was pretty small compared to today's fighters. Guys like Conor McGregor and Jon Jones would have a huge size advantage over him.
5. Finally, Bruce never had to deal with the physical demands of MMA training, like cutting weight and intense cardio workouts. He trained for movies, not for real fights.
So yeah, Bruce Lee would probably struggle to even make it as an amateur in today's MMA :D. Just a fact.

[Hobbit XIII]

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.

2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.

3. That is a bold statement of little merit.

4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?

5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little.

[Hobbit XIII]

A part of the introduction from Tao of Jeet Kune Do by his wife Linda Lee.

Linda Lee

My husband Bruce always considered himself a martial artist first and an actor second. At the age of 13, Bruce started lessons in the wing chun style of sung fu for the purpose of self-defense. Over the next 19 years, he transformed his knowledge into a science, an art, a philosophy and a way of life. He trained his body through exercise and practice. He trained his mind through reading and reflection, and he recorded his thoughts and ideas constantly over those 19 years. The pages of this book represent a look into his life’s work.

In his lifelong quest for self-knowledge and personal expression, Bruce was constantly studying, analyzing and modifying all available, relative information. His principle source was his personal library, which consisted of over 2,000 books that dealt with all forms of physical conditioning, martial arts, fighting techniques, defenses and related subjects.

In 1970, Bruce sustained a rather severe injury to his back. His doctors ordered him to discontinue the practice of martial arts and to remain in bed to allow his back to heal. This was probably the most trying and dispiriting time in Bruce’s life. He stayed in bed, virtually flat on his back for six months, but he couldn’t keep his mind from working—the result of which is this book. The bulk of these writings was done at this time, but many scattered notes were recorded at earlier and later times. Bruce’s personal study notes reveal that he was particularly impressed by the writings of Edwin L. Haislet, Julio Martinez Castello, Hugo and James Castello and Roger Crosnier. Many of Bruce’s own theories are directly related to those expressed by these writers.

Bruce had decided to finish this book in 1971, but his film work kept him from completing it. He also vacillated about the advisability of publishing his work because he felt it might be used for wrong purposes. He did not intend it to be a “how to” book or a “learn kung fu in 10 easy lessons” book. He intended it as a record of one man’s way of thinking and as a guide, not a set of instructions. If you can read it in this light, there is much to be aware of on these pages.

[Xautos]

Just because you are tall and got the muscles doesn't make you fast, smart or agile, it actually makes you an easier target. you wouldn't think a short stature man would have much of a chance, but that doesn't mean a lot since martial arts focuses on the best ways to stop someone with a set of moves. Since Bruce Lee was the type who mixed his martial arts, he would be good at all manner of different forms, this would have made him an extremely difficult opponent to take on.

[989]

No

[bananaigerai]

Xautos a écrit :

Just because you are tall and got the muscles doesn't make you fast, smart or agile, it actually makes you an easier target. you wouldn't think a short stature man would have much of a chance, but that doesn't mean a lot since martial arts focuses on the best ways to stop someone with a set of moves. Since Bruce Lee was the type who mixed his martial arts, he would be good at all manner of different forms, this would have made him an extremely difficult opponent to take on.

But that's not true, why else would we need weight categories in MMA if it didn't matter?

[bananaigerai]

989 a écrit :

No

Ok?

[dyinggg]

Bro calls out bruce lee on the internet, steam forums no doubt.

My dude, you win the internet today.

[Hobbit XIII]

But that's not true, why else would we need weight categories in MMA if it didn't matter?

If Xautos does not mind me stepping in and adding to any response he gives.

Bruce Lee was not for the sporting of Martial Arts.

He was a highly dangerous and capable individual.

I will ask you a question :

Are you a martial artist or do you work in any field involving fighting?

[Zilkenian Davenport]

bananaigerai a écrit :

Xautos a écrit :

Just because you are tall and got the muscles doesn't make you fast, smart or agile, it actually makes you an easier target. you wouldn't think a short stature man would have much of a chance, but that doesn't mean a lot since martial arts focuses on the best ways to stop someone with a set of moves. Since Bruce Lee was the type who mixed his martial arts, he would be good at all manner of different forms, this would have made him an extremely difficult opponent to take on.

But that's not true, why else would we need weight categories in MMA if it didn't matter?

The bigger they are...

Also, I wasn't expecting on learning more about Bruce Lee today. I'm okay with this.

[bananaigerai]

Hobbit XIII a écrit :

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.

2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.

3. That is a bold statement of little merit.

4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?

5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little.

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.
RE: Okay, I'll give u a point that he did have a few amateur fights, but that doesn't make him a decent fighter.
2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.
RE: That's fair statement, but it still is one of the most ineffective combat techniques to mix with in real time fighting.
3. That is a bold statement of little merit.
RE: How is it a bold statement of little merit, we know for a fact he was a light fighter, would you expect a light fighter to submit a heavier fighter at top level? If u at least agree that he wouldn't have any chance at all at top level we can have a better discussion.
4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?
RE: But how fast can a human being can be? We all have realistic limits on our body, he was only a human, he was not any faster than most fighters at top level, or even mid level. Also fast doesn't mean hard punches, because weight + speed = punch power
5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little. [/quote]
RE: That doesn't mean he trained effectively with MMA fighter standards where they literally train to survive and for a job.

[Hobbit XIII]

bananaigerai a écrit :

Hobbit XIII a écrit :

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.

2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.

3. That is a bold statement of little merit.

4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?

5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little.

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.

RE: Okay, I'll give u a point that he did have a few amateur fights, but that doesn't make him a decent fighter.

2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.
RE: That's fair statement, but it still is one of the most ineffective combat techniques to mix with in real time fighting.

3. That is a bold statement of little merit.

RE: How is it a bold statement of little merit, we know for a fact he was a light fighter, would you expect a light fighter to submit a heavier fighter at top level? If u at least agree that he wouldn't have any chance at all at top level we can have a better discussion.

4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?
RE: But how fast can a human being can be? We all have realistic limits on our body, he was only a human, he was not any faster than most fighters at top level, or even mid level. Also fast doesn't mean hard punches, because weight + speed = punch power

5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little.

RE: That doesn't mean he trained effectively with MMA fighter standards where they literally train to survive and for a job. [/quote]

1. He had a lot more than that you really are showing a complete lack of research into this.

2. Maybe you should read up on him some more.

3. He was not a sportsman and from personal experience of being 6 ft 2 a smaller guy can take your head as easily as the next if they are willing to that level of violence.
One of my friends had a different experience he got sent to prison in Canada for doing same thing to a professional kickboxer my friend was under 5 ft 5.

4. do some research on why Bruce Lee was exceptional and I will say if i went around thinking I was all that because I was big and tall I would get decked pretty quickly.

5. Again do some research on the person and what he taught.

[bananaigerai]

Hobbit XIII a écrit :

bananaigerai a écrit :

1. Bruce Lee was mainly a fighter and an Actor he grew up fighting.
He was always getting into fight a school teacher of his said how he interrupted a Triad meeting chasing and being chased by a gang of his class mates scrapping all over.
Actors in later years said in interviews when he went to China they would go out with him and more often than not somebody would be fighting him.

RE: Okay, I'll give u a point that he did have a few amateur fights, but that doesn't make him a decent fighter.

2. Bruce Lee was all for combining martial arts, he became very unpopular in china and elswhere for it.
RE: That's fair statement, but it still is one of the most ineffective combat techniques to mix with in real time fighting.

3. That is a bold statement of little merit.

RE: How is it a bold statement of little merit, we know for a fact he was a light fighter, would you expect a light fighter to submit a heavier fighter at top level? If u at least agree that he wouldn't have any chance at all at top level we can have a better discussion.

4. Yes he was compact and incredibly fast. You seen how he worked out?
RE: But how fast can a human being can be? We all have realistic limits on our body, he was only a human, he was not any faster than most fighters at top level, or even mid level. Also fast doesn't mean hard punches, because weight + speed = punch power

5. He trained continuously, you may want to revise a little.

RE: That doesn't mean he trained effectively with MMA fighter standards where they literally train to survive and for a job.

1. He had a lot more than that you really are showing a complete lack of research into this.

2. Maybe you should read up on him some more.
I obviously did though, none of the facts I mentioned are false?
3. He was not a sportsman and from personal experience of being 6 ft 2 a smaller guy can take your head as easily as the next if they are willing to that level of violence.
One of my friends had a different experience he got sent to prison in Canada for doing same thing to a professional kickboxer my friend was under 5 ft 5.

4. do some research on why Bruce Lee was exceptional and I will say if i went around thinking I was all that because I was big and tall I would get decked pretty quickly.
Yes a highly trained small person still usually has the advantage against a bigger person, but if we say the bigger guy has trained for at least half a year, like imagine a 100kg guy going against 60kg guy, 60kg guy even with 5 years of exp, compared to half a year exp bigger guy would have little chance realistically bcs all that the bigger guy would need to do is submit the little guy and the only hope for the small guy is to find an opening to either quickly submit him or to keep distance, but keeping distance is kind of impossible against a much taller longer reach opponent.
5. Again do some research on the person and what he taught. [/quote]

Well, I am looking if there is anyone with arguments that could change my mind, but that doesn't seem the point, because all I get is some history about him which means nothing, it's like saying a dragon existed and those few pepople believed he did in the past

[Hobbit XIII]

OP if you want to celebrate people of MMA go for it but do not be doing it as if your some expert by slagging off a genuine tough fighter like Bruce Lee just because he was ALSO an actor does not mean that is all he was.

He demolished a really heavy punching bag at Coburn's place with a kick - the old really heavy types.
I slammed the ♥♥♥♥ out of many punching bags and never destroyed one in one kick.

[Hobbit XIII]

bananaigerai a écrit :

Well, I am looking if there is anyone with arguments that could change my mind, but that doesn't seem the point, because all I get is some history about him which means nothing, it's like saying a dragon existed and those few pepople believed he did in the past

In future ask about him / a person rather than making odd statements.

In this time I could have given you various constructive answers and had time to look up links of people who worked with him.

Instead I have been reacting to your questions and statements.

[bananaigerai]

Hobbit XIII a écrit :

OP if you want to celebrate people of MMA go for it but do not be doing it as if your some expert by slagging off a genuine tough fighter like Bruce Lee just because he was ALSO an actor does not mean that is all he was.

He demolished a really heavy punching bag at Coburn's place with a kick - the old really heavy types.
I slammed the ♥♥♥♥ out of many punching bags and never destroyed one in one kick.

I just dont understand how u can dismiss all the efforts of all the fighters around the world and think of Bruce Lee as some kind of savior that could even have a chance against any of middle fighters when all they do is fight for their living, even the bottom tier mma fighters have a better chance.