[ORIGINALITY] Anyone else seeing the death of creativity?

[Shlim Sady]

You can apply this to about all mediums; it feels like everything has been done. Maybe it's because we're overstimulated in the screen age- every single colour we can see at our fingertips, anything you can imagine can also be near immediately seen if you have the internet, it feels like all possible combinations of things have already been done. Food, music, art, movies, TV shows, video-games... I really can't fathom any unique combination of these things that there's not a pre-existing example of, or just a clear merger of two ideas that barely forms some semblance of a "new" idea.

[sleeps]

it's normal. don't think much about it.

[Shlim Sady]

Origineel geplaatst door sleeps:

it's normal. don't think much about it.

Even in replies- that's rough

[craigsters]

more like p_ussyfooting and not having the courage or nohow to make something new, we don't need cookie cutter movies and games

I don't need another mission impossible or fast and the furious film thx Tom Showing his age now and should hang up his action/stunt breeches

[Shlim Sady]

Some elaboration:

every single colour we can see at our fingertips: in reference to a century ago where if you wanted to see vibrant purples and yellows, you'd have to go to a garden or gallery- not stare at an RGB keyboard emitting EVERYTHING at once like it's June at a major corporation

anything you can imagine can also be near immediately seen if you have the internet: Search-engine images tab

Food: this one sorta speaks for itself. I encourage all of you to try and come up with a new, actually edible and theoretically good new recipe that doesn't already exist- I doubt it's possible without making culture salad like Sushi-Nachos

music: Same thing. This could largely be due to the stupidity that is the monopolisation of intellectual properties- your composition can't sound remotely like whoever else's, stifling the gaps in creativity

art: we've gotten to a point where we're just smearing ♥♥♥♥ on a canvas and pretending it's some sort of staple piece about how the new world is X or Y- it feels like we're just repeating history if you study older artworks like Leonardo da Vinci or Michelangelo, you can see just how much is borrowed

movies: all of the genres just merge with the same, predictable plots- the repetition actually killed my pleasure in watching movies

TV shows: same as movies

video-games: characters, plots, game-play, doesn't feel like anything has innovated in the last 10 years. Most titles are on their 5th/6th games in their series

[sleeps]

here's the thing. nothing is that uniquely unique. everything is derived from one another and all of them will trace back into one singularity. but what you can do however is using less known tropes in your creative works and make it accessible somehow.

there has been good cyberpunk ceos but none of them are that interesting because perhaps we expect ceos as stereotypically evil and a punching bag for communists so why not do it yourself?

[SHAZBOT]

absolutely. and it really is everything. movies music video games, and not only multimedia. everything to the shape of cars. they all look like a variation of the same egg, what we do when we go on dates. we've already used up all the creativity potential from all the immigration, internet, and nothing all that original came out of that neither.

but all thats about to change. just in the nick of time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNtckMT49M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aihq6jhdW-Q


ai will take everything weve done, everything we know, and like a fresh set of eyes, will blow our minds with the new things it will come up with. from what we already know and what we would eventually figure ourselves a long time from now.

the end of creativity will be the beginning of ai

[Shlim Sady]

Origineel geplaatst door Grand Ayatrollah:

absolutely. and it really is everything. movies music video games, and not only multimedia. everything to the shape of cars. they all look like a variation of the same egg,

but all thats about to change. just in the nick of time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNtckMT49M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aihq6jhdW-Q


ai will take everything weve done, everything we know, and like a fresh set of eyes, will blow our minds with the new things it will come up with. from what we already know and what we would eventually figure ourselves a long time from now.

this is the unfortunate reality of it. I probably should've more aptly named the thread "The Death of Human Creativity" or something to that sentiment.

Even AI will just realistically be filling in the gaps of creativity that we've missed. I fully acknowledge that creativity is inherently a remix of our surroundings compounded over time- but the repetition recently just feels so... condensed? Like we were recycling centuries old stuff before, but now it's like all the ♥♥♥♥ from 2000's onward that's just being pumped and dumped for a quick cash grab

[Xautos]

Everything new and original came and passed decades ago, motives and music had their best years between 60's-90's, computer games from 90's to 2005.

everything is a copy of a copy these day, a variation on a theme. it might have a different name and might look and act slightly different, but it's always the same thing. One persons Doom 1 is another persons CSGO, one persons Beatles is another persons Taylor Swift and so on.

There hasn't been any true originality in the entertainment industry for a while now and i doubt there is going to be any such thing until the profits dry out when people get the idea that it's all the same thing and then creative minds have to work on creating something new and original that hasn't been trodden on before.

[SHAZBOT]

Origineel geplaatst door Shlim Sady:

just being pumped and dumped for a quick cash grab

beavis and butthead. chip and dale rescue rangers.



i dont even get excited anymore when i see my classics being remade. darkwing duck is even being redone.

woohoo dont care im sure it will be trash.

[Shlim Sady]

Origineel geplaatst door Grand Ayatrollah:

Origineel geplaatst door Shlim Sady:

just being pumped and dumped for a quick cash grab

beavis and butthead. chip and dale rescue rangers.



i dont even get excited anymore when i see my classics being remade. darkwing duck is even being redone.

woohoo dont care im sure it will be trash.

literally- they've just given up; genuinely selling "Remastered!" attached to old game titles- CoD is a good example. Are remasters the new "creativity"? Garbage 'multiverse' reboots like they did with Spider-Man? They strip the original plot, keep the same placeholder character, and throw them in different timelines? Doesn't sound like anything I'm excited for to be honest

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

AAA games are too expensive to mess up, so they can't be as creative.

[Elation]

Origineel geplaatst door Shlim Sady:

this is the unfortunate reality of it. I probably should've more aptly named the thread "The Death of Human Creativity" or something to that sentiment.

Even AI will just realistically be filling in the gaps of creativity that we've missed. I fully acknowledge that creativity is inherently a remix of our surroundings compounded over time- but the repetition recently just feels so... condensed? Like we were recycling centuries old stuff before, but now it's like all the ♥♥♥♥ from 2000's onward that's just being pumped and dumped for a quick cash grab

You know what AI is trained on, right?

[Dom]

Creativity and originality aren't really synonyms. Think of artificial intelligence that is creating art. It's not really that original in a sense that it's fed with existing creations and likely comes up with something that is within the norms of what's already out there. However, it's creative in a sense that it can find a new method or representation that is unique and utilize the material.

Creativity is how you use something and originality is whether that something is unique and challenges the existing standards.
You can be incredibly creative with the tools and materials that are already out there.
Even if it's not that original.

[Shlim Sady]

Origineel geplaatst door Joke in the Box:

AAA games are too expensive to mess up, so they can't be as creative.

This just isn't true, and it's evident you have no grasp on the history of AAA games.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/205100/Dishonored/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/17410/Mirrors_Edge/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/400/Portal/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/546560/HalfLife_Alyx/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/288160/The_Room/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/Dying_Light/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/238320/Outlast/

There's plenty of examples of what good AAA games with original concepts look like- they're just all old, or in a newer medium like VR. But the same issue arises when VR is seen as the new form of creativity- it goes back to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ "Remastered!" system where I'm gonna be playing Portal in VR and be told it's some miraculous new concept.

Feels like we're brainlessly marching towards Ready Player One dystopia

[Shlim Sady]

Origineel geplaatst door Dom on trip until May 28 😎:

Creativity and originality aren't really synonyms. Think of artificial intelligence that is creating art. It's not really that original in a sense that it's fed with existing creations and likely comes up with something that is within the norms of what's already out there. However, it's creative in a sense that it can find a new method or representation that is unique and utilize the material.

Creativity is how you use something and originality is whether that something is unique and challenges the existing standards.
You can be incredibly creative with the tools and materials that are already out there.
Even if it's not that original.

I view creativity inherently as a uniqueness- otherwise, it's repetition in my eyes