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4 years ago a man screamed "I CAN'T BREATHE!"
4 years ago George Floyd died. Did his death and the BLM movement make any significant changes to the world?
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So you're saying society should have helped hold Floyd down while he was being choked.

Or like, taken a picture?
What i said is, when a chubby person who likes donuts and wears blue, requests you to stop so they can check you, you stop and let them check you. Not panic, runaway, or trying to escape.

I dunno, if I'm cooperating and someone decides to choke me out because they don't like my statements I think I might panic.

I'd say Floyd was overwhelmingly calm about the fact he was being killed.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Stranger; 25.5.2024 klo 9.52
I never dealt with cops but when I do I always cooperate even if they’re in the wrong. The best place to fight it is in court and not on the streets. Of course I’ll always be recording.
sadly didnt help much in my country.. cops still execute people
he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself
Well, what it showed me as a retired police officer (though i retired prior to 9/11, and an old man) is the power people have, if they want to use it. In my time, I've dealt with many riots, but nothing at least that i can remember, that ever equated to that.

When you have a police department, of even 25k in NYC, and even a few thousand National Guard, you're not going to be able to mitigate 1.5 million, who are on the streets of the city, as south as Staten Island, to the north of the Bronx.

And that's just NYC, not upstate Syracuse and other areas of the the state.

And therefore, no police department, mayor, governor or even the President that can mitigate such a disaster.

And so the biggest misconception, was "weakness", when the real fact of the matter was, there was really nothing they can do. Anywhere. They are too mobile, have communications, and can move anywhere at any given time. Say as compaed to the 60's and 70's, when they could not communicate as effectively.

Which is why "Defund the Police" was actually being considered, at least in some way. Anyway to end the violence, in so commerce can continue.

In some ways i agree, Police should not be dealing with what otherwise Paramedics (in regards to psyche EDP cases), or Homeless Services or outreach dealing with say, homeless issues, should be dealing with.

On those issues i agree, being back in the day, there were other matters i would rather be doing, and should be doing in lieu of crimes.

Not dealing with homeless or someone off their meds, and spending countless hours at the hospital, or off the the street tending to these folks, when i should be doing what "cops" do.

The fact is, police spend countless hours and days, doing what more or less, private security or other agencies should be doing.

And so all in all, i think what was accomplished, is showed me the power of mass amounts of people, who are very angry, and how we are relatively powerless to stop it.

And was a warning sign for elected officials, not to screw up, or take people for granted.
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he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself
Considering how lethal fent is that was either extremely dumb or just suicide.
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he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself

I had a judge that ruled the same way on my case once.

My defender kept asking questions like "you have to schedule a lobotomy two weeks in advance how was he lobotomized 3 days after admittance" and "why is there legal documentation of the lbotomy being schedule two weeks before the trial even happened?" and "why did the judge kill himself after I started asking questions?"

So obviously Floyd was in league with Epstein and killed himself to avoid giving away his associations under enhanced interrogation.
Magma Dragoon lähetti viestin:
he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself

The toxicology report supports this explanation. But public pressure and threats of violence if someone didn't pay may have been more convincing. You'd like to think that wouldn't be the case in the 1st world though.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on MistuhG; 25.5.2024 klo 10.03
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Magma Dragoon lähetti viestin:
he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself
Considering how lethal fent is that was either extremely dumb or just suicide.
He might not have known it was fentanyl. People think they're buying one thing and get fentanyl instead. Many "overdoses" are actually poisonings.

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Magma Dragoon lähetti viestin:
he panic swallowed a bunch of fentanyl to avoid possession charges and killed himself

The toxicology report supports this explanation. But public pressure and threats of violence if someone didn't pay may have been more convincing.
Conveniently kept black people focused on the police instead of the open southern border.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Magma Dragoon; 25.5.2024 klo 10.04
It wasn't meant to impact the world. It was a statement that turned into a movement but unfortunately as movements go, those behind it can be corrupt or get corrupted and that sidewinds any progress.

The significance of the statement hasn't died and remains an important forethought for many people. I just think that it's become a cliché for those that never understood nor tried to understand it but above all, should have.

Thanks to Black Lives Matter protests, police-worn body cameras are the norm now. And yes, it's now even more common for civilians to record police stops or interventions as well, which is equally as important.
It shows that the cops in the trial had relatively incompetent lawyers who didn't even ask for a change in venue.
I've dealt with cops twice in the last 4 years. I don't scream. I don't start calling them racists.

In the last 4 years I have seen this:
- White women and Black women screaming at cops for no apparent reason and getting shot in the face.
- White men getting pulled over and obeying cops. No trouble here.
- Fascist cops playing Simon Says and killing people for not playing their sick game correctly.
- Cops laughing after they purposely kill an innocent dog or person.

I am not posting vids nor links, it's all on YT and free to the public.
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I've dealt with cops twice in the last 4 years. I don't scream. I don't start calling them racists.

In the last 4 years I have seen this:
- White women and Black women screaming at cops for no apparent reason and getting shot in the face.
- White men getting pulled over and obeying cops. No trouble here.
- Fascist cops playing Simon Says and killing people for not playing their sick game correctly.
- Cops laughing after they purposely kill an innocent dog or person.

I am not posting vids nor links, it's all on YT and free to the public.

well that's kind of in the realm of the 'paddling the donkey' comparison I was making.

if you paddle the donkey too hard it'll kick you in the ribs and you can sit in the hospital while everyone else fights the war.

and if you train your donkey to kick anyone that comes near it with a paddle, then it's not your fault that it happened. all these other people are getting kicked by your donkey too.

I'd assume the government has at least some vested interest in creating such circumstances, in order to justify their social controls.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Stranger; 25.5.2024 klo 10.24
aka 25.5.2024 klo 10.24 
Black Zombies Matter lähetti viestin:
4 years ago a man screamed "I CAN'T BREATHE!"

If I was in that situation I would have saved my breath and relaxed. "I'm calm now officer, I'm very sorry for not being more compliant and making your day harder than it needs to be."

Then much later on I would judge his actions and decide his fate.

BLM is just a silly idea, there isn't even such a thing as black lives.

You're welcome :KneelingBow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnil5LyK_B0
One thing I have noticed from bodycam footage I have watched is that any time an actual criminal who happens to be black is being apprehended they, will now immediately start shouting "argh you are hurting me/stop hitting me" and make a huge scene. Must be difficult for the police to handle in an already dangerous job.
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