Is believing in an afterlife stupid?

[morrisseyshair]

Believing in an afterlife seems like fairy tales for adults. Something to make people feel good because being dead for eternity is too scary a thought, so we made up this nice story about an afterlife when it's far more likely it goes dark and that's it.

[apathy]

引用自 Majestically Awkward：

In other cases it has been explained that life is weighted by our good deeds and bad to balance the scales of all of our existence and reincarnations, that some could give up or have a choice to be reincarnated, enter the total abyss where they will never be reincarnated again, or ascend before the creator to carry out a more enlightened meaning for the rest of time.

Sign me up to the abyss.

The creator can choke on his own faulty creation for all I care and all he deserves.

[Incarnate]

You have to ask yourself why you (or other people) believe it, what the evidence is, and if that source is credible and falsifiable/testable.

That being said, sometimes "stupid" people believe in smart things, and vice versa. The logic that poeple use in debating this issue is more interesting than the debate itself, tbh.

[☎need4naiim☎]

引用自 Dracoco OwO：

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

There is a distinct difference between a MUSLIM and a FASIQ and a MUNÂFIQ.

Islam condemns any lifestyle of Fâsiqs. Those you mentioned above are Fâsiqs or Munâfiqs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasiq#

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munafiq

Glo.b.alist Car.tel has been supporting and funding Fâsiqs and Munâfiqs (corrupting the Muslim countries by doing so) in the Middle-Eastern region to bring Communist Totalitarian regimes in Middle-East and North Africa region.

Well i can entirely believe in some Muslims being genuinely good peoples all in all without the corruption in Maghreb(north africa basically) and the middle east but it seems even the sacred texts written by Mohammed has some sus stuff written in it like Mohammed marrying Aisha and apparently having sex with her when she was 9 years old, so there is that then.

Not saying there isn't valuable traditions in islam or actual virtues but that kinda stuff i mentionned prior is no good personnaly.

This stuff about the age of Aisha (r.a) has been widely interpreted wrong. She was not 6 nor 9. In fact, she was 14-15 at the time of marriage and 17-18 when the marriage was consummated.

A poster explained it a while ago in Reddit. The root of the problem lies in the Oral Tradition that Arabs had at the time of 7th Century AD. People didn't even know exactly at what age they are in themselves without comparing the years cross-checking with other prime events happened at the time. For example, there wasn't even a written calendar amongst Arabs before the Prophet's Migration with first Muslims from Becca to Medinah.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/105yqb3/prophet_muhammad_%EF%B7%BA_did_not_marry_aisha_ra_at_the/

As a sidenote, the poster in Reddit doesn't yet know that the city Prophet was born isn't named as Mecca, but it is called as "Becca". Dan Gibson proved that a few years ago, with several proofs that the city the Prophet Muhammed was born was called "Becca", currently known as "Petra". In Qur'an, it is also written as "Becca". In verse 3:96. Though the translations translate it as Mecca, in original ARABIC TEXTS, it is written as "Becca". I can read Arabic letters, by the way. The word "Mecca" is also mentioned once in Qur'an, but it is explained as a ground where a fierce battle took place between Muslim Armies and the Heathens, not where the Kaaba exists. For more information about this, watch below video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tth1QVg780

It is a very long subject to write in here.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

its not since evidence is not solid or can ever be solid about it

but if you are willing to take other peoples experiences in near death you start to see that statistically yes it probably exists

[Arkham99]

引用自 Sins of History：

The universe expands infinitely

"infinity" doesn't just go in one direction... it's infinitely smaller as well... the problem with most humans comprehending the "universe" is that we're always looking for a beginning when there is none... it just is...:-)

[Y1N9]

引用自 morrisseyshair：

Believing in an afterlife seems like fairy tales for adults. Something to make people feel good because being dead for eternity is too scary a thought, so we made up this nice story about an afterlife when it's far more likely it goes dark and that's it.

Non-existence isn't "scary". You're not there to experience it anyway. Sitting in darkness for all eternity, is that what you think is scary? That's not death. That's an oubliette. But in the end, we don't know. Death is a mystery, one of the few big ones no one gets to sidestep. So, how do you handle existential mysteries like that? Do you turn it into some kind of narrative that suits your thinking? Or do you accept the unknown?

[Netaris]

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

It is a very long subject to write in here.

You can keep your taqiya for yourself. ^^

[Dracoco OwO]

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

引用自 Dracoco OwO：

Well i can entirely believe in some Muslims being genuinely good peoples all in all without the corruption in Maghreb(north africa basically) and the middle east but it seems even the sacred texts written by Mohammed has some sus stuff written in it like Mohammed marrying Aisha and apparently having sex with her when she was 9 years old, so there is that then.

Not saying there isn't valuable traditions in islam or actual virtues but that kinda stuff i mentionned prior is no good personnaly.

This stuff about the age of Aisha (r.a) has been widely interpreted wrong. She was not 6 nor 9. In fact, she was 14-15 at the time of marriage and 17-18 when the marriage was consummated.

A poster explained it a while ago in Reddit. The root of the problem lies in the Oral Tradition that Arabs had at the time of 7th Century AD. People didn't even know exactly at what age they are in themselves without comparing the years cross-checking with other prime events happened at the time. For example, there wasn't even a written calendar amongst Arabs before the Prophet's Migration with first Muslims from Becca to Medinah.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/105yqb3/prophet_muhammad_%EF%B7%BA_did_not_marry_aisha_ra_at_the/

As a sidenote, the poster in Reddit doesn't yet know that the city Prophet was born isn't named as Mecca, but it is called as "Becca". Dan Gibson proved that a few years ago, with several proofs that the city the Prophet Muhammed was born was called "Becca", currently known as "Petra". In Qur'an, it is also written as "Becca". In verse 3:96. Though the translations translate it as Mecca, in original ARABIC TEXTS, it is written as "Becca". I can read Arabic letters, by the way. The word "Mecca" is also mentioned once in Qur'an, but it is explained as the place where a fierce battle took place between Muslim Armies and the Heathens, not where the Kaaba exists. For more information about this, watch below video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tth1QVg780

It is a very long subject to write in here.

Ok that kind of clear up stuff cause my Dad is watching cringe french youtubers that use alot this as an argument, but aside this misoginy practices and the like still plague north africa/middle east and all and the burka is extremely problematic in France btw but i know i can't necessarily link that to islam but some extremists.

[sleeps]

引用自 Dracoco OwO：

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

This stuff about the age of Aisha (r.a) has been widely interpreted wrong. She was not 6 nor 9. In fact, she was 14-15 at the time of marriage and 17-18 when the marriage was consummated.

A poster explained it a while ago in Reddit. The root of the problem lies in the Oral Tradition that Arabs had at the time of 7th Century AD. People didn't even know exactly at what age they are in themselves without comparing the years cross-checking with other prime events happened at the time. For example, there wasn't even a written calendar amongst Arabs before the Prophet's Migration with first Muslims from Becca to Medinah.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/105yqb3/prophet_muhammad_%EF%B7%BA_did_not_marry_aisha_ra_at_the/

As a sidenote, the poster in Reddit doesn't yet know that the city Prophet was born isn't named as Mecca, but it is called as "Becca". Dan Gibson proved that a few years ago, with several proofs that the city the Prophet Muhammed was born was called "Becca", currently known as "Petra". In Qur'an, it is also written as "Becca". In verse 3:96. Though the translations translate it as Mecca, in original ARABIC TEXTS, it is written as "Becca". I can read Arabic letters, by the way. The word "Mecca" is also mentioned once in Qur'an, but it is explained as the place where a fierce battle took place between Muslim Armies and the Heathens, not where the Kaaba exists. For more information about this, watch below video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tth1QVg780

It is a very long subject to write in here.

Ok that kind of clear up stuff cause my Dad is watching cringe french youtubers that use alot this as an argument, but aside this misoginy practices and the like still plague north africa/middle east and all and the burka is extremely problematic in France btw but i know i can't necessarily link that to islam but some extremists.

trust me when i say that not all muslims are the same muslims you see on other place or environment. and virtue signalling (as practised by anyone really) are harmful and it pictures small as whole.

[☎need4naiim☎]

引用自 Netaris：

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

It is a very long subject to write in here.

You can keep your taqiya for yourself. ^^

It is not taqiya. I have never tried to deceive people into a corrupt mold or agenda. And i am not funded to write in here.

[Mason]

Yes.

[Netaris]

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

It is not taqiya. I have never tried to deceive people into a corrupt mold or agenda. And i am not funded to write in here.

I see who stab who in my country, I don't need to know anything else about your religion and how your own behave. I don't care what is written in your books or not, from my point of view I see only invaders.

[Psycho]

nah. some people like to believe in heaven because it gives them a nice feeling knowing that their deceased loved ones are resting in heaven. also that they will see them again eventually when they themselves die

[sleeps]

引用自 Netaris：

引用自 ☎need4naiim☎：

It is not taqiya. I have never tried to deceive people into a corrupt mold or agenda. And i am not funded to write in here.

I see who stab who in my country, I don't need to know anything else about your religion and how your own behave. I don't care what is written in your books or not, from my point of view I see only invaders.

even those who are not?

[xjulep]

It’s very bad because it gives people psychological license to think and behave as if no matter how badly we ♥♥♥♥ up the world there will be a happy ending or a second chance. It’s the same logic as a suicide bomber who thinks he’s going to heaven