Is believing in an afterlife stupid?

[morrisseyshair]

Believing in an afterlife seems like fairy tales for adults. Something to make people feel good because being dead for eternity is too scary a thought, so we made up this nice story about an afterlife when it's far more likely it goes dark and that's it.

[SHAZBOT]

absolutely not.

whats stupid is thinking this is evolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLPL1qRhn8

wtf's that. lol. really. you get natural selection, evolution, and this is what you get?


sorry no. thats not normal. im calling all you big bang people out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLPL1qRhn8

how is this normal. someone is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with us. wait and see.

[xDDD]

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But every culture believes in some form of afterlife. Whether it is a real place or a transfer of energy.

You are severly misinformed here. We currently have many people who don't. This directly disproves your point.

The fact, that we have this discussion, disproves it.

There have been irreligious people in all cultures. It was just harder for them to voice their lack of beliefs because of societal preasure.

I said cultures, not individual people.

There have always been counterculture people and atheists, such as yourself, who go against the culture of their society. But every society itself has believed in some form of an afterlife aside from a few recent exceptions (mostly just communists)

Sorry but r/atheism isn't a society nor a culture.

[Stingray_tm]

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Sorry but r/atheism isn't a society nor a culture.

In communist countries like the Soviet Union state atheism is/was the society.

But neither of this has any bearings on the truth.

As I have said before, People have a psychological need to believe in an afterlife. That doesn't mean it's true.

[Stingray_tm]

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Now I wonder, those who don't believe in an afterlife, what do you think happens with your "self" when you die?

It will cease to exist. Because there is nothing there anymore (body/brain) that supports its existence.

[xDDD]

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Sorry but r/atheism isn't a society nor a culture.

In communist countries like the Soviet Union state atheism is/was the society.

But neither of this has any bearings on the truth.

As I have said before, People have a psychological need to believe in an afterlife. That doesn't mean it's true.

And how did that turn out for the Soviet Union?

So are you saying that you are ignoring your psychological need to believe in an afterlife? Or are you just a superhuman?


You know what, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I hope you find something greater someday even if it is your own personal flavor of spirituality.

[Stingray_tm]

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And how did that turn out for the Soviet Union? :lunar2019laughingpig:

As far as I know, the disbelief in an afterlife was not a factor in the dissolution of the Soviet Union...
Also China is pretty stable right now and they are also Atheist.

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So are you saying that you are ignoring your psychological need to believe in an afterlife? Or are you just a superhuman?

We also have a need to ♥♥♥♥. I am still not sleeping with everything that comes my way.

Again, there have always been people that didn't believe in such things. In all cultures. This is nothing new.

Humans have the capability of self-reflection and reasoning. And if those lead to not beleving unproven things, than these exceeds such build-in mechanisms.

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You know what, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I hope you find something greater someday even if it is your own personal flavor of spirituality.

Sure. But I'd rather find plausible evidence for such things instead of believing in things. whose existence have not been proven.

[aka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT1ZaNE8Tfs

[STARMANNNN]

No even if humans got religion wrong something made the universe something made us existence is weird it wasnt no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ atoms i literally remember when i wasnt born and then i just woke up one day something made us

[sus]

How anyone can be confident in the atheist argument of "you cease after you die!!!" is probably on the same level of unfounded nutjobbery as believing the earth is flat.

Pre-existence shows anything could've happened and anything still can happen. Who can say consciousness and all its memories won't pop back up later? Where were they to forecast their own awakening before they were even formed in the womb?

It's dumb to make confident assertions on consciousness (which we know nothing about) in a universe (which we know nothing about it's origins or what happens after it ceases, if it even does), in a near infinite space we know nothing about.

[Dracoco OwO]

It's probably just a coping mechanism, everyone has them, but for real many would just feel better if there was not this fear from dying and it's like the end forever, never will you smile, cry or think again, never will you be able to be someone on this wretched lands. Is that a good or a bad thing ? I can't tell.

[Stingray_tm]

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How anyone can be confident in the atheist argument of "you cease after you die!!!" is probably on the same level of unfounded nutjobbery as believing the earth is flat.

Well we haven't observed an intellect without a physical body, so the logical default assumption is, that if the physical body no longer supports that intellect, the intellect also is no longer there. We can't just assume the existence of something which we have no proofs of it existing in the first place. Otherwise we end up believing in the Easter Bunny.

I'd be happy to see evidence otherwise but so far this hasn't happened.

[sus]

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How anyone can be confident in the atheist argument of "you cease after you die!!!" is probably on the same level of unfounded nutjobbery as believing the earth is flat.

Well we haven't observed an intellect without a physical body, so the logical default assumption is, that if the physical body no longer supports that intellect, the intellect also is no longer there.

I'd be happy to see evidence otherwise but so far this hasn't happened.

Lack of evidence does not equal impossibility.

[Soft Wumbo]

i know u dont want to die, u dont want to leave your steam account

[Stingray_tm]

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Well we haven't observed an intellect without a physical body, so the logical default assumption is, that if the physical body no longer supports that intellect, the intellect also is no longer there.

I'd be happy to see evidence otherwise but so far this hasn't happened.

Lack of evidence does not equal impossibility.

I never said it was impossible. But until proven otherwise, the end of existence is the logical conclusion of the facts we know.

BTW: That you concepualise something does not mean it is possible or even likely.

[Dracoco OwO]

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Well we haven't observed an intellect without a physical body, so the logical default assumption is, that if the physical body no longer supports that intellect, the intellect also is no longer there.

I'd be happy to see evidence otherwise but so far this hasn't happened.

Lack of evidence does not equal impossibility.

Cope is cope, it's still cope no matter how you spin it, there is nothing that seems to demonstrate it should be a thing to begin with so there isn't any reason to believe it's thing but that's still your right.