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Pixel (Interzis) 15 iun. 2021 la 1:05
Is technology slowing down?
Back in the old 1900s, people went from horses to flying to the moon in 70 years. 70 years ago we had cars and planes and we still use cars and planes.
idk, my life hasn't changed a bit in the last 13 years of memory I have.
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I think the new technology has really only impact if you are rich, if you are poor it`s the same old same old like 20-30 years ago.
Moving full speed into dystopian future with wealthy elite who are technologically advanced and the poor unwashed peasants living in a muck.

That never works. Some day the peasants inevitably figure out you are useless and easy pickings the moment they break your toys.

I'm not so sure about that. The wealthy elites currently have more tech advantages over the unwashed masses than they ever had before. It would be much more difficult for an uprising to succeed now, against drones and who knows what else, than it was during the French Revolution or the slave revolts in Haiti, for example.

Also on comparable ranges for EV vs ICE, I doubt it. The newly announced EV Ford F-150 has approximately half the range, compared to the similar ICE F-150. And EVs perform poorly in hot or cold conditions, when aux power is needed for A/C or heat. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual EV range is barely a third of the ICE range.
Dunno, me personally I use teleport.
Give it another 20 years zoomer, something will change and you won't like it
RRW359 16 iun. 2021 la 7:41 
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If batteries are the same as 1991 then how is it that in the early 2010's most EV cars took forever to charge and had next to no range while now can take less than an hour and have comperable range to ICE's?

Also Jules Verne predicted how to go to the moon and got most (not all though TBF) of it right 100 years before we went. I would argue that we've had the knowledge of how to go to the moon for a long time but only were willing to spend the money to do so at one brief period in history.

The batteries I'm referring to first began showing up in consumer electronics, camcorders and such, they weren't in cars because of cost and scale of production. These were refinements, not true innovation. Verne didn't get most of it right, going to the moon required computer controls which took up entire ring sections of the apollo rocket, its not just a giant firework.
Which models of camera? Also wheather you call them refinements or innovation the fact is that we have vehicles on the road that a decade ago would have been impossible, especially for the price.

Obviously going to the moon requires some refining in tech but if a government in Verne's time were to give nearly unlimited funding to going to space/the moon and nearly a decade to test the equipment they likely could have done it. Of course whether in the 1800's, 1960's, or now, many would argue that those funds would be better spent on almost anything else, and now since we have things like a Space Station and various probes all over the Solar System (none of which we had during the Apollo program), sending humans to the moon or other bodies may not even be the best way to advance space exploration. I would also point to the fact that we have more people in orbit than at any point in the past and the ability to send more as progress.
hopefully it is slowing down
the robots be like "i am as slow as it gets"
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my life hasn't changed a bit in the last 13 years of memory I have.

Hmmm... so you not paying attention is "science" slowing down?! Just one of the things happened (if somebody was vaguely aware of what´s going on): CPU´s got so smal they now interact with the quantum effects which is in part the cause all those 7nm chips won´t work as expected thus no large scale supply can be met.
Hathaway 16 iun. 2021 la 16:02 
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The batteries I'm referring to first began showing up in consumer electronics, camcorders and such, they weren't in cars because of cost and scale of production. These were refinements, not true innovation. Verne didn't get most of it right, going to the moon required computer controls which took up entire ring sections of the apollo rocket, its not just a giant firework.
Which models of camera? Also wheather you call them refinements or innovation the fact is that we have vehicles on the road that a decade ago would have been impossible, especially for the price.

Obviously going to the moon requires some refining in tech but if a government in Verne's time were to give nearly unlimited funding to going to space/the moon and nearly a decade to test the equipment they likely could have done it. Of course whether in the 1800's, 1960's, or now, many would argue that those funds would be better spent on almost anything else, and now since we have things like a Space Station and various probes all over the Solar System (none of which we had during the Apollo program), sending humans to the moon or other bodies may not even be the best way to advance space exploration. I would also point to the fact that we have more people in orbit than at any point in the past and the ability to send more as progress.


I'm talking about the lithium ion batteries developed in the 70s and finally reaching consumer items in the 1990s. https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/SonyHistory/2-13.html So we're talking a 30-50 year lag time for them to even slightly become affordable in ev's.

Jules Verne was alive during the 1800s, and had access to a more intelligent population not yet degraded by modern day dysgenics and without trauma of the cream of their elite having been wiped out during two world wars. I'm sure they could have accelerated advancements but to reach moon shot level is beyond a big ask.

Not impressed by people being in orbit, compare the vast volume of skylab https://jalopnik.com/why-skylab-was-americas-first-and-best-home-in-space-505269461 the modern station is cramped, and its anything but sustainable at $7.5 million per crew person-day, keeping 7 people in space for $150 billion and counting, doing questionable amounts of science as justification.

Given enough effort its always possible to do things that make no sense at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMSzw9mDn1Q
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RRW359 16 iun. 2021 la 16:41 
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Which models of camera? Also wheather you call them refinements or innovation the fact is that we have vehicles on the road that a decade ago would have been impossible, especially for the price.

Obviously going to the moon requires some refining in tech but if a government in Verne's time were to give nearly unlimited funding to going to space/the moon and nearly a decade to test the equipment they likely could have done it. Of course whether in the 1800's, 1960's, or now, many would argue that those funds would be better spent on almost anything else, and now since we have things like a Space Station and various probes all over the Solar System (none of which we had during the Apollo program), sending humans to the moon or other bodies may not even be the best way to advance space exploration. I would also point to the fact that we have more people in orbit than at any point in the past and the ability to send more as progress.


I'm talking about the lithium ion batteries developed in the 70s and finally reaching consumer items in the 1990s. https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/SonyHistory/2-13.html So we're talking a 30-50 year lag time for them to even slightly become affordable in ev's.

Jules Verne was alive during the 1800s, and had access to a more intelligent population not yet degraded by modern day dysgenics and without trauma of the cream of their elite having been wiped out during two world wars. I'm sure they could have accelerated advancements but to reach moon shot level is beyond a big ask.

Not impressed by people being in orbit, compare the vast volume of skylab https://jalopnik.com/why-skylab-was-americas-first-and-best-home-in-space-505269461 the modern station is cramped, and its anything but sustainable at $7.5 million per crew person-day, keeping 7 people in space for $150 billion and counting, doing questionable amounts of science as justification.

Given enough effort its always possible to do things that make no sense at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMSzw9mDn1Q
So you are saying the ISS isn't worth the investment because it does very little science but the fact that we haven't sent people to the moon to do even less science fpr even more money means we haven't advanced? Plus we can (and have) sent probes that are beyond the technology of Apollo without the expense, risk, and time limits associated with people.

And again I'm not denying that the tech for EV's has been around in some form for quite some time, but OP mentioned flying cars. The underlying tech for the Helicopter and VTOL aircraft has been around for quite a while, but if flying cars ate considered an advance compared to those then so must EV's compared to older battery-powered vehicles.
no money in the world cant figure what this is about
It's very likely technology have slowed down quite a bit, but not for long.

We are currently at the digital age, still type 0 on the K-scale 0.75 for refrence.

phase 1 ( 1994-2000 )-This is the beginning of the internet and world wide web.
phase 2 ( 2000-2012 )- The Giga bit era
phase 3 ( 2012-2020 )- The early social media eara, also the Tera bit begins late at this stage.
phase 4 ( 2021-2035 )- We reach beyound the Deca bite era at this point, our current age.
phase 5 ( 2036-2050 )- DNA computing replaces chips.
phase 6 ( 2051-2065 )-Early Quantum computing. We are now 0.8 on the K-scale.
phase 7 ( 2066-2080 )-Late Quantum computing, we can control weather at will at this point.
phase 8 ( 2080-2099 )- At this point we are now at 0.9 on the K-scale, can control volcano, earthquakes, tusnami at will, core mining is now possiable.
phase 9 ( 2100- ??? )-We are now 1.0 on the K-scale, we reach a new era past the digital relam. We completed our 1st dayson swarm.
🐠🍑 16 iun. 2021 la 18:01 
Postat inițial de Valhalla Viking:
It's very likely technology have slowed down quite a bit, but not for long.

We are currently at the digital age, still type 0 on the K-scale 0.75 for refrence.

phase 1 ( 1994-2000 )-This is the beginning of the internet and world wide web.
phase 2 ( 2000-2012 )- The Giga bit era
phase 3 ( 2012-2020 )- The early social media eara, also the Tera bit begins late at this stage.
phase 4 ( 2021-2035 )- We reach beyound the Deca bite era at this point, our current age.
phase 5 ( 2036-2050 )- DNA computing replaces chips.
phase 6 ( 2051-2065 )-Early Quantum computing. We are now 0.8 on the K-scale.
phase 7 ( 2066-2080 )-Late Quantum computing, we can control weather at will at this point.
phase 8 ( 2080-2099 )- At this point we are now at 0.9 on the K-scale, can control volcano, earthquakes, tusnami at will, core mining is now possiable.
phase 9 ( 2100- ??? )-We are now 1.0 on the K-scale, we reach a new era past the digital relam. We completed our 1st dayson swarm.

I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea what you are talking about but it sounds pretty exciting. At what phase do I get to have a harem of alien babes and roam the galexy in my intergalactic redneck mobile?
Devsman 16 iun. 2021 la 18:09 
Postat inițial de Valhalla Viking:
It's very likely technology have slowed down quite a bit, but not for long.

We are currently at the digital age, still type 0 on the K-scale 0.75 for refrence.

phase 1 ( 1994-2000 )-This is the beginning of the internet and world wide web.
phase 2 ( 2000-2012 )- The Giga bit era
phase 3 ( 2012-2020 )- The early social media eara, also the Tera bit begins late at this stage.
phase 4 ( 2021-2035 )- We reach beyound the Deca bite era at this point, our current age.
phase 5 ( 2036-2050 )- DNA computing replaces chips.
phase 6 ( 2051-2065 )-Early Quantum computing. We are now 0.8 on the K-scale.
phase 7 ( 2066-2080 )-Late Quantum computing, we can control weather at will at this point.
phase 8 ( 2080-2099 )- At this point we are now at 0.9 on the K-scale, can control volcano, earthquakes, tusnami at will, core mining is now possiable.
phase 9 ( 2100- ??? )-We are now 1.0 on the K-scale, we reach a new era past the digital relam. We completed our 1st dayson swarm.

I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea what you are talking about but it sounds pretty exciting. At what phase do I get to have a harem of alien babes and roam the galexy in my intergalactic redneck mobile?
I wouldn't put to much stock in a comment with so many mistakes in it tbh.
The problem is that ppl give unrealistic expectations (flying cars for example) and becuase of that they think tech is slowing down...
Postat inițial de Murassa TR:
The problem is that ppl give unrealistic expectations (flying cars for example) and becuase of that they think tech is slowing down...

Flying cars have been around for a century. They're called autogyros. More commonly, if incorrectly, called "gyrocopters"
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