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Evidence for religion?
Other than "Some guys wrote ... "

Anything?
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Christ is King.
Enigmatic 25 marca 2024 o 22:26 
It is basically Canon, but the story of Josephus is quite interesting. He predicted the Emperor of Rome and himself survived a suicide pact due to God's divine protection.
Evidence for religion? There are churches, mosques, temples, and synagogues in nearly every town and city on earth. There's your evidence. In fact, that's actually proof that religion exists.

That's what you asked. /Thread.
Haruspex 25 marca 2024 o 22:43 
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Evidence for religion? There are churches, mosques, temples, and synagogues in nearly every town and city on earth. There's your evidence. In fact, that's actually proof that religion exists.

That's what you asked. /Thread.

(meme)Technically the truth(/meme)
Enigmatic 25 marca 2024 o 22:47 
https://youtu.be/vhOgYN5SDQg

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(meme)Technically the truth(/meme)
Magma Dragoon 25 marca 2024 o 22:53 
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moral first principals are pre rational
the long term implications of a society that deconstructs religion per se is increasing nihilism and reversion to a state of savagery where moral considerations don't exist at all
Indeed. Notwithstanding religions that are -- or were, in the case of the Aztecs -- at their very core a state of savagery. Deconstructing those can be welcome for lovers of peace and life.
While Aztec human sacrificial rites were certainly barbaric by western Catholic standards, the people of Tenochtitlan had a sincere belief they were necessary for the survival of the world, as the sun would lack the strength to rise without them.

When I say savage I mean people doing whatever materially benefits them the most with no morals or transcendental beliefs to guide their actions. All those things that are so evil as to be unthinkable to you? A truly faithless people would not have a problem doing them.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Magma Dragoon; 25 marca 2024 o 22:55
aka 25 marca 2024 o 23:20 
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Evidence for religion?

TL;DR version first: This post challenges the notion of God without evidence. It's an exact formula to meet God right now, perhaps the greatest post in human history, and should be minted as an NFT asap by one very fortunate person.

By presenting an argument for the existence of a creator based on the order of the universe and the human condition, it confronts the readers limited IQ with the inevitability of death and the factual afterlife, urging a humble approach to spirituality and a plea to seek the creator. The post emphasizes the urgency of making a spiritual choice now, rather than later, and ends with a call to action for personal transformation and a humble "you're welcome."



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Religion requires no evidence, it's man made nonsense in most regards and has dominated the world since long before writing existed.

I think you're asking for evidence about a creator, or God.

The evidence is that you didn't create yourself, yet you exist in a universe where every single particle and every living thing follows a created, intelligent law... except you.

You will die soon, and you will spend eternity without an existence free to move, where you have a voice and where love is a potential, where you can taste a cold lemonade and give thanks for a beautiful afternoon sailing, or a 10 day camping adventure on motorcycles.

Where you have the opportunity, thanks to the love of your heart, your mind, your spirit, and your brothers and sisters, to seek out the creator.

Many people say that God is love, unconditional love, and you'll probably be okay, you didn't murder or rape.

It's a con, and only a fool would believe that, a coward who cannot face the truth...

God is the source of a nightmare so unimaginable that you will not understand it after 800 trillion years of screaming.

Kneel to the creator of all things and from a humble place, say the words:

"Jesus, I have no faith, and I'm sorry, but right now, I take you up on your offer with the most I can give: The humility that I did not create myself and have no control over my life or the billions of years ahead. Show me the light that I may give up all that I'm doing and follow it."

Jesus spoke these words during the Sermon on the Mount. "Ask, and it will be given to you, seek, and you will find, knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives... the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

With this plea, I also give you my word that I will stay within the place you have shown me... this path that leads to eternal freedom and joy. I will honor your choice to touch me or not, but I make this promise: If you reveal yourself in full, I will use the dominion granted to me to enter into the dark places and speak for those without a voice, until the day of my judgment... and this shall be the fruit of my labor, laid out for you with love... in honor of your revelation.


I'll tell you mostly grackling cowards this fact .... If you do this, your world is getting rocked. There are no exceptions.

If you're content to remain in your happy bubble for a few more years or decades, enjoying the torture and murder of the helpless, the manipulation of children, and the genocide of the weak, the destruction of the world ... then ignore this post and get back to arguing over nothing and forgetting it all again tomorrow.

God doesn't need you, and if He liked you more, He wouldn't be judging you. You think it's funny because you're trained to... religion, fear, and insecurity trained you, but God did not invent those things.

Think of the effort you put into this creation in the past billion years, think about your choice to be this race or species, or what made you cry when you were a month old... you have nothing to be proud of or high about. These were done without you, and it will be that way when you are born into spirit and leave this life... you will not decide anything at all, it will all be decided for you.

Your freedom is to decide NOW, from this place of condemnation, to reach for the only hope you have. The Anointed One is that hope. I know Him... He is not just a historical figure but the living author. Split a piece of wood, He is there. Lift up a stone, and you will find Him.


You're jolly welcome my friends. I hope I saved your soul, but I very much doubt one of you will has the courage to face it. :KneelingBow:

The gate and the roads that leads to destruction are very wide, and most will enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. - Jesus

Why so few ? Look at you ...

Mic DROP!

Mods, feel free to make this post pinned on every Discussion forum. You have my permission to make it part of the TOS for Valve's agreement. (YWF's)

It will be an NFT valued at more than Valve by mid 2028. I don't want the money so pay it jolly forward.
Yavin Shikanoko 25 marca 2024 o 23:30 
there are evidence of religion, however there are not evidence of it being true or real, mostly because religion is based on faith, not on facts
livinggg 25 marca 2024 o 23:35 
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800 trillion years of screaming.

Kneel to the creator of all things

Satire
I do wonder where the followers of the Abrahamic religions got the notion that the universe was created in 6 days. Maybe just The Earth was? Or why we are made in god's image? Who did god tell these things to? How do human's know?
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Hairy Hands Harry; 26 marca 2024 o 0:09
mocA 26 marca 2024 o 0:05 
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Christ is King.
And "Allah" according to Muslims

According to Jews Hashem

According to Hinduism Vishnu

https://study.com/academy/lesson/different-religions-world-overview-facts.html

Religions just create more separation and disagreement between people tbf
Ostatnio edytowany przez: mocA; 26 marca 2024 o 0:05
Fajita Jim 26 marca 2024 o 0:10 
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Christianity encourages seeking more knowledge as long as it's sought through the lens of faith.

I learned Hebrew seeking more knowledge, and that is eventually what lead me to realize The Bible doesn't say the things I was told it said.

The whole concept of 'soul' has been reframed in ways that The Bible does not support, for instance. In Hebrew, Nephesh means 'to breathe', and is an aspect of life that is not exclusive to humans.

By assigning Nephesh (soul) properties it doesn't Biblically have, like existing without the body, then the rest of the story falls apart: the whole reason a physical resurrection is necessary is because you are not Nephesh without a body.

I mean that's just one example, we could go on and on. The religion early Christians practiced would not be recognizable, today. It was VERY Jewish in understanding and practice.

But you know I didn't stop there. Once I could read the language that opened a whole door. Yeah, come to find out The Bible is a very, very late telling of Yahweh. There were a few more iterations first, including one where he has a female consort (Asherah) who actually appears in The Bible!

So, no. The Bible is a late edition of much earlier works. Not only are the earlier works heretical in their revelations, but we know we're referring to the same being when the same wife shows up (Asherah).

So if you believe what 'The Telephone Game' teaches you, you should consider the earliest forms of the story the most accurate, right? But those are the ones that tell you El Elyon has 70 sons, and Yahweh is just one.

Actually, the Bible as it is pretty much says the same thing. Do you know which verses those are?
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Fajita Jim; 26 marca 2024 o 0:30
Here's some of your own advice to help you navigate this complex issue.

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Stop getting your opinions from people on the interwebs and try going out into the real world, where healthy and well adjusted people live. There's far more of them out there than there are people on here.
Fajita Jim 26 marca 2024 o 0:29 
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Here's some of your own advice to help you navigate this complex issue.

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Stop getting your opinions from people on the interwebs and try going out into the real world, where healthy and well adjusted people live. There's far more of them out there than there are people on here.

Except, I'm not taking any opinions from here, I have my own. I'm simply asking for others. 🙄
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Here's some of your own advice to help you navigate this complex issue.

Except, I'm not taking any opinions from here, I have my own. I'm simply asking for others. 🙄

So was I when you posted that. Didn't stop you though. So I guess it still applies. Was it bad advice? Well it was yours.

Thing is, most people on here are not looking to learn, they're looking to teach. That's why you posed a question that you already settled on an answer to and replied to refute the claims others offered. To bait people into talking about something you want to argue about, not learn about.

You have the wrong approach, as evidenced by your last post. When you want to become good at physical things, like sports or weightlifting, you practice physical activities. When you want to understand scientific things, you use a scientific method. Yet when you want to learn of spiritual things, for some reason you take an intellectual approach, talking about how you studied a language and some other texts. But you still think it'll work, huh.
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