DuckDuckGo Can No Longer Be Trusted

[Jackie Daytona]

I'm sure this will be old news to many of you, but I can no longer trust DuckDuckGo. I've heard for some time that I shouldn't trust them. But I always felt like their search results were quite good. Seems that is no longer the case.

I heard that the U.S. just spent over 1 trillion on it's latest budget. So, I wanted to see what exactly is in it. What precisely is my government spending money on?

So, I turned to DuckDuckGo. Out of the first 80 search results there was only ONE right-leaning news organization. (And three somewhat-neutral sites. Which each appeared once.) Here's a list of left-leaning sites they gave me: (Yes, it was mainly these sites repeating over 80 results.)

• nbcnews.com
  
• washingtonpost.com
  
• nytimes.com
  
• cnn.com
  
• cbsnews.com
  
• bloomberg.com
  
• apnews.com
  
• reuters.com
  
• pbs.org
  
• usatoday.com
  
• npr.org
  
• msn.com
  
• cbsnews.com

All of these might as well merge. Since they all provide an identical perspective. (Well, I suppose npr and pbs could only merge with eachother, but you know what I mean.) It's not as if any of them provide a noticeable difference of information.

Anyway, I can't trust search results that only lean one-way. That's why I don't use Bing or Google. They openly admit that they alter results to try to influence the minds of people that use their services.

Any suggestions for other search engines? Is there a politically neutral one out there somewhere?

(Oh, and if you're wondering how my reading into the budget went? Poorly. Seems neither side wants the public to know where all the money is going.)

[causality]

Not sure if this is satire or an alt right chud just being typically stupid.

[Kamiyama]

Duck actually uses Google. They just don't pass on any personally identifiable information to Google that Google can use to track you.

So it shouldn't be surprising if Duck produces very similar results to a Google search.

[bon]

Postat inițial de Ganger:

Postat inițial de con:

it really is so shrimple

Postat inițial de Ganger:

as shrimple as that

[Voroff]

Postat inițial de Kamiyama:

Duck actually uses Google. They just don't pass on any personally identifiable information to Google that Google can use to track you.

So it shouldn't be surprising if Duck produces very similar results to a Google search.

Said that in post 18, but as you're not the first to re-point that, i'm quoting meself :

Postat inițial de Voroff:

Are you even aware that all search engines are based on google with just some twists here and there ? Why are you even surprised you have almost the same results ?

Before, some time ago, there were multiple search engines. I foundly remember that google had to compete with the frenchs Yahoo and Lycos. Both of those failed, that's another matter, but also any things worldwide that were not google - were burried.

Now, every current search engine that anyone can get his hand on, ANY search engine, is a derivative form of the google engine, granted with some rewriting.
They are currently ALL BASED ON IT.
They are gonna spit the same search results than google.
Because google bots (browser-crawlers) are all that matters in the referencing of web pages.

[Pieshaman]

if I search what you do I get :
https://www.usaspending.gov
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending_in_the_United_States

as my first results in duckduckgo

[metamec]

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

^-- And, this, too... Because it's just being fed by Bing/Google (I think they still partner with Google as well) it actually has a little bit less straight functionality than either of those in terms of search results.

It may well draw results from those sources, but it definitely uses other methods. Sites I work on are regularly crawled by the DDG bot.

[Pieshaman]

Postat inițial de metamec:

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

^-- And, this, too... Because it's just being fed by Bing/Google (I think they still partner with Google as well) it actually has a little bit less straight functionality than either of those in terms of search results.

It may well draw results from those sources, but it definitely uses other methods. Sites I work on are regularly crawled by the DDG bot.

I actually put google and bing search off in duckduckgo.
It works perfect for me in combination with firefox.

[Tonepoet]

N.P.R. is considered left wing now? Also, what are some major right leaning news sites? It is not necessarily Quacker's fault if practically all of the major news sources are left leaning.

[metamec]

Postat inițial de Pieshaman:

Postat inițial de metamec:

It may well draw results from those sources, but it definitely uses other methods. Sites I work on are regularly crawled by the DDG bot.

I actually put google and bing search off in duckduckgo.
It works perfect for me in combination with firefox.

I didn't know you could do that!

[Adversary]

…I stopped using DuckDuckGo the minute that they got caught out filtering their results and tracking people despite them pledging that they would never do so. Then again they placed ads on 4chan back in the day around the same time that Christopher Poole sold out.

It's like how there's a couple boards that are moderated by the FBI, in that DuckDuckGo in retrospect always glowed in the dark.

[Jackie Daytona]

Postat inițial de Voroff:

Postat inițial de Jackie Daytona:

I'm sure this will be old news to many of you, but I can no longer trust DuckDuckGo. I've heard for some time that I shouldn't trust them. But I always felt like their search results were quite good. Seems that is no longer the case.
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Are you even aware that all search engines are based on google with just some twists here and there ? Why are you even surprised you have almost the same results ?

You didn't read. Or English isn't your first language ? Because I didn't say anything like that.

Search results that show almost entirely left-leaning media outlets, does not happen by coincidence. It happens because the search engine is omitting results that run counter to a specific ideology.

Postat inițial de Voroff:

Cool bro, but actuallty the US political "left" spectrum stops at "centrist" whatever you might think. Too much saluting the flag does that to a person. Any US political leftist official is still a right winger compared to everywhere else in the world, be it china, europe, africa or even canada.

False. You clearly aren't aware of what is going on in the world.

Postat inițial de NoMoreUnderscores():

In the heyday of print media, there were definitely magazines or journals far more "left-leaning" than mainstream ABC/CBS/NBC stuff. People who think those networks are in any way "extreme" organizations have no clue what they're even talking about. (The actual leftists I'm sure still have a web presence. But it's a bit different than being available on a newsstand right next to Harper's or National Review.)

I notice you give no examples.

Look, it's very simple. ABC/CBS/NBC are all identical. They present anything left-leaning as good, and anything right-leaning as evil.

For instance, ABC spent four solid years attacking Trump. His entire presidency. Multiple stories. Every single day. Without exception. Spinning everything he said and did as being the worst thing ever.

Since then? ABC talks about the president much less. And when they do? It's to defend Biden. To make him look like a saint.

I don't have a clue? You are so indoctrinated you can't even see the reality in front of you. Just how extreme would ABC have to be for you to see it as such?

[Hairy Hands Harry]

OPs post make me want to use DuckDuckGo now. Does not list the conservative hate sites. Good.

[Hairy Hands Harry]

Postat inițial de Tonepoet:

N.P.R. is considered left wing now? Also, what are some major right leaning news sites? It is not necessarily Quacker's fault if practically all of the major news sources are left leaning.

Fox is the number one. Britbart. InfoWars. Anything owned by the Sinclair group (they own a lot of local stations associated with all the different networks).

[Jackie Daytona]

I'd like to give a more detailed and comprehensive reply. But I don't have as much time these days.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

Postat inițial de Jackie Daytona:

I'm sure this will be old news to many of you, but I can no longer trust DuckDuckGo.

What "DuckDuckGo" are you using? The mobile version has, or at least "had," and agreement with Micro$oft for tracking certain ads/features. The PC version does not.

PC. I don't look up anything on my phone unless I absolutely have to.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

Virtually every search engine you know the name of is only an aggregator of Google and Bing results. DuckDuckGo is the best aggregator because it combines both..

The best of bad is still bad.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

There are some projects, like SearX, which uses independent hosts and indexes, but those are hit-or-miss, really, and are not really robust enough to be of much use. Darkweb is darkweb, so tread carefully there if you go looking.

I'll have to look into that. I never leaned to use the darkweb properly. I'd have a lot of reading to do.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

Commercial search sites like Google, Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, etc, don't really care about promoting some news site over another. They care about money and staying alive, no promoting some inteerpretation of the news.

Google is ideologically driven. They promote leftist causes. They hire, fire and promote based on skin color and gender. Not merit.

Today, they are run by people trying to influence people's minds. They have so much money, it doesn't matter. They could shut down their search entirely, and could operate off what they make from GooglePlay alone.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

If you're looking for your favorite biased newsite and don't find it in a generic search, that's likely because few people use it and many probably consider it full of crap..

You've got it backwards. How is anyone ever going to find the news I read if it doesn't appear in search results? Duh.

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

You have to take responsibility and learn to consume news with a discriminating mind, even if it turns out that news does not agree with your worldview.

News has been corrupted by political influence. Everything is spin. Everything is propaganda. It's not news. It's opinions about things that have happened. With facts omitted to make one side look good and the other bad.

Leftist Media
Biden just had a few classified documents. Sure, he'd been doing it for decades. But they were all kept very safe.

Trump took hundreds of classified documents. Law enforcement had no choice but to raid Mar-A-Lago. Because Trump's a bad man. He would surely have given these to foreign agents. Anyone could've just broken in and stolen those documents at any time. He is a danger to the public, a danger to the U.S., and a threat to democracy world-wide.
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This isn't about my personal worldview. It's about how the media manipulates the public into thinking two identical things are actually different. Based not on facts, but the worldview of those that control the media.

[Hairy Hands Harry]

Postat inițial de Jackie Daytona:

Leftist Media
Biden just had a few classified documents. Sure, he'd been doing it for decades. But they were all kept very safe.

Trump took hundreds of classified documents. Law enforcement had no choice but to raid Mar-A-Lago. Because Trump's a bad man. He would surely have given these to foreign agents. Anyone could've just broken in and stolen those documents at any time. He is a danger to the public, a danger to the U.S., and a threat to democracy world-wide.

Now, you are wildly distorting what they reported. But there was a huge difference between the two cases. No matter what you want to admit.

BTW, Classified goes, Confidential, Secret, Top Secret, then special categories above that. A list of people that attended a meeting can be classified. It is true that Trump had some of the very top level documents. It was never said that Biden ever had Top Secret or above. Not even Alex or Hannity ever accused Biden of that.

You are adding your personal worldview.