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Tazor 2024 年 3 月 23 日 上午 7:21
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Why do religious people hate LGBT so much?
I mean, yeah, sure, this is ONE of the things the Bible is against. But it doesn't talk about this on every possible occasion.

If anything, the hate towards greed seems to be the most common theme. It talks about how greedy people will burn in hell and have no chance at getting into heaven. Why aren't they ransacking the mansions of the multi billionaires? Or doing anything at all about it. They just ignore this fact. Today we have greed on a record level. And it keeps growing with each year. Some people are hoarding enough wealth to live like kings for many, MANY lifetimes while a lot of other people barely have anything.

There is also another big issue. A big, round, blue and green issue. Earth. And all the creatures living here. God's greatest creation according to the Bible. We believed Earth to be the centre of the universe for a very long time, with all the other astral bodies spinning around it. We are actively burning, poisoning and destroying it with complete disregard. You don't see many religious people who are climate activists. Especially among the middle aged or older people. Climate activism seems to be a common trait among young non religious people.

Marriage. Another important topic. Traditional marriage is gone. LGBT marriages are a tiny percentage worldwide so I don't get the hate. Heterosexual marriages seem to be the bigger problem number wise according to traditional values. Women don't obey their husbands anymore. They are no longer required to be "pure" when getting married. They divorce their men very often and take everything they can in court. 70% of divorces are started by women, 90% women among college educated couples. Almost feels like revenge for what they had to endure. Why aren't they pushing for stronger laws to bring back traditional marriage?

Of all the things the Bible talks against and much more often, they sure picked a random thing to be angry about.
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Tsubame ⭐ 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:28 
For the OP: people often tend to project their own beliefs and likes/dislikes towards others.

Most people are biologically straight and have been taught to like people from the opposite sex - and learn that liking people from the same sex is unnaceptable, laughable, etc.

How many times one has heard people jokingly refer to something lame as "being so gay"?

They do not need to be necessarily religious, but religious people tend to be more conservative in nature.

There have been religions and cultures with a more tolerant view of homossexualism, i.e. Ancient Rome and Greece.

There are homosexual relations even in the animal world, so this is not a phenomena restricted to humans only.
AD 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:56 
Religious people probably think it's against their religion or something like that. Idk, it never made sense to me.

引用自 sleeps
I don't hate LGBT as much as I don't hate religious people. Someone can be both and that's fine. Does that make me the worst being of all time?
Yes, because you sound sensible and that is NOT tolerated on the internet. Didn't you read the "how to internet guide"?
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sleeps 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:05 
引用自 AD
Religious people probably think it's against their religion or something like that. Idk, it never made sense to me.

引用自 sleeps
I don't hate LGBT as much as I don't hate religious people. Someone can be both and that's fine. Does that make me the worst being of all time?
Yes, because you sound sensible and that is NOT tolerated on the internet. Didn't you read the "how to internet guide"?
Gamer is truly the most oppressed gender of all time. We live in a society where gamers don't rule the world
Morkonan 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:25 
引用自 Tazor
I mean, yeah, sure, this is ONE of the things the Bible is against. But it doesn't talk about this on every possible occasion.

In a couple of places, yes. Though, I don't recall any New Testament mentions of that. (Maybe?)

If anything, the hate towards greed seems to be the most common theme. It talks about how greedy people will burn in hell and have no chance at getting into heaven. Why aren't they ransacking the mansions of the multi billionaires? Or doing anything at all about it. They just ignore this fact.

Mostly, it's because a lot of those who are upset with LGBT may also ascribe to the "Prosperity Theology."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology

IMO, this is a wrong interpretation, but quite a few noted preachers have taken up its banner... Trump is a very enthusiastic supporter of some "Prosperity Theology" proponents.

There is also another big issue. A big, round, blue and green issue. Earth. And all the creatures living here. God's greatest creation according to the Bible. We believed Earth to be the centre of the universe for a very long time, with all the other astral bodies spinning around it. We are actively burning, poisoning and destroying it with complete disregard. You don't see many religious people who are climate activists. Especially among the middle aged or older people. Climate activism seems to be a common trait among young non religious people.

There are many people of all types that support climate activism, at least in terms of reducing Carbon Emissions.

Marriage. Another important topic. Traditional marriage is gone. LGBT marriages are a tiny percentage worldwide so I don't get the hate. Heterosexual marriages seem to be the bigger problem number wise according to traditional values. Women don't obey their husbands anymore. They are no longer required to be "pure" when getting married. They divorce their men very often and take everything they can in court. 70% of divorces are started by women, 90% women among college educated couples. Almost feels like revenge for what they had to endure. Why aren't they pushing for stronger laws to bring back traditional marriage?

I don't see what you do in this example.

In a great many ways, New Testament principles have superseded a lot of older, traditional, practices. So, when it comes down to "religion" and people that cite religious references, there's a lot of differences between what "Christianity" focuses on, for instance, that other religions may view differently. To wit - Your relationship with God is your's and that's what is truly important. (IMO, and I don't like presenting personal interpretations. Read for yourself and decide.)

IMO - What others say their religious beliefs are happen to be their's. I do not hold to a lot of the social viewpoints some people think I must hold to due to my own beliefs. But, no matter what my social commentary should be on any particular subject, one thing I do know is that if ti doesn't include "love" then it's wrong for me to hold to...
Not Big Surprise 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:22 
引用自 Hooch
Insistence that the public use T's preferred pronouns even when they don't present themselves as such (or just wear light makeup)
cis people don't need to conform to gender norms to be called the right pronouns, why should it be different for trans people?

Legislate against people who don't use said pronouns
if you repeatedly misgender and deadname specifically and exclusively trans people, you are by definition discriminating against trans people

Legislate that children (under 18) can get gender transformation surgery
already addressed, blown way out of proportion

Teach school children about gay and trans sex, using sexually explicit language and images that would be considered porn outside of this scenario
literally every single time i've seen this claim it has been a mix of exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies
but sure, let me see what you have

Drag Queen story time hour
what's wrong with drag

Child Drag Queens, especially in bars, and where some adults are nude (Desmond the Amazing)
i looked them up
there is no sign of anything even remotely similar to what you just described

if you're gonna make a point about children performing specifically in adult drag shows, then maybe bring up an instance of children performing in adult drag shows

Publicly funded gender transformation surgery
trans healthcare is healthcare

Biological males can use biological female restrooms and locker rooms
so far, no country with self-id laws has seen any significant increase in sexual assault in bathrooms and locker rooms as a result of them
doesn't seem like there's an actual issue here

Biological males should be placed in biological female jails and prisons
same as above
but i'd like to add, abolish punitive "justice", make prisons focus on rehabilitation instead of locking people up in places where they're prone to rape by both staff and inmates alike

Bio males can compete in bio women athletic events
this has been the case for years, by this point you would expect most records to be held by transfems

Transwomen (bio males) can win awards or titles specifically intended for bio fems (Woman of the Year, 1st Woman who X, etc.)
apparently trans women have a biological advantage at being beautiful i guess
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yankees992007 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:50 
引用自 xDDD
Honestly I think most people hate LGBT because the majority (or a very-vocal minority) of them are just annoying as f*ck.

Barely anybody cared 10ish years ago when they legalized gay marriage nationwide. THAT should have been the end of it.
But, much like feminists, they continue "advocating" for absolute bullsh*t even though they have equality under the law already.

Rather gay marriage was legal 10 years ago is irrelevant now. SCOUS has reversed many rulings including the latest the protections of gays and trans.

Of course steam forums totally ignored that. The SCOUS allowed the states to decide on what law to make. It came no surprise that lower 40 states are against the law and agreed with SCOUS rulings.

The problem I see here is the minority is telling what the majority what to do. Anyone who goes against the minority is being carded as discrimination. This is why one must read the SCOUS rulings.

To sums it up, people dont hate LGBT, the people regarded such as not in the norms of the society. Glorifying or legitimating such behavior is what crossing the line.
Not Big Surprise 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:57 
引用自 yankees992007
引用自 xDDD
Honestly I think most people hate LGBT because the majority (or a very-vocal minority) of them are just annoying as f*ck.

Barely anybody cared 10ish years ago when they legalized gay marriage nationwide. THAT should have been the end of it.
But, much like feminists, they continue "advocating" for absolute bullsh*t even though they have equality under the law already.

Rather gay marriage was legal 10 years ago is irrelevant now. SCOUS has reversed many rulings including the latest the protections of gays and trans.

Of course steam forums totally ignored that. The SCOUS allowed the states to decide on what law to make. It came no surprise that lower 40 states are against the law and agreed with SCOUS rulings.

The problem I see here is the minority is telling what the majority what to do. Anyone who goes against the minority is being carded as discrimination. This is why one must read the SCOUS rulings.

To sums it up, people dont hate LGBT, the people regarded such as not in the norms of the society. Glorifying or legitimating such behavior is what crossing the line.
lotta words for "queer people should just act like they're straight people"
Crystal Sharrd 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:01 
Religion gives bad people an easy shield to justify their evil behavior.
yankees992007 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:09 
引用自 Crystal Sharrd
Religion gives bad people an easy shield to justify their evil behavior.

Even without religion, it still morally wrong. I am sure one would not commit murder. Why is that? Because it is immoral to end one's life.

You dont have to be religious to know that.
blacksunchaos 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:17 
It's not just religious people anymore.
Not Big Surprise 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:22 
引用自 yankees992007
引用自 Crystal Sharrd
Religion gives bad people an easy shield to justify their evil behavior.

Even without religion, it still morally wrong. I am sure one would not commit murder. Why is that? Because it is immoral to end one's life.

You dont have to be religious to know that.
counterpoint, it's not morally wrong to be queer, nor to embrace queerness
TwisterCat 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:23 
引用自 Not Big Surprise
引用自 yankees992007

Even without religion, it still morally wrong. I am sure one would not commit murder. Why is that? Because it is immoral to end one's life.

You dont have to be religious to know that.
counterpoint, it's not morally wrong to be queer, nor to embrace queerness
Depends if you believe in morality, I suppose. Something can't be immoral, if you don't believe in that term.
Ulfrinn 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:28 
More proof that the LGBTQ agenda is in large part about attacking people for their religion. Gays get used as tools to attack Christians by disingenuous actors in politics and media making up these big bad boogieman stories about how Christians are responsible for all that is wrong in your life. The same ol' pitting of two groups against each other to control both.

You should ask yourself, why does so many LGBTQ people seem to hate Christians so much? Remember that wedding cake incident? Yeah, that way a gay couple going around to several Christian bakeries looking for one to tell them "no" so they could bring them to court. That was targeted harassment against people because of their religion. That's why the bakery won the case.
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Not Big Surprise 2024 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:35 
引用自 TwisterCat
引用自 Not Big Surprise
counterpoint, it's not morally wrong to be queer, nor to embrace queerness
Depends if you believe in morality, I suppose. Something can't be immoral, if you don't believe in that term.
do you think it's immoral?
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