I think im going crazy

[JoJa]

I dont feel anything... No emotion, no excitement in anything and im not depressed either. I have tried even things people get addicted to to feel any excitement but still nothing. Im thinking about taking some risks in my career just because im bored and i feel confident about it its probably because i dont care about anything anymore. Am i going crazy? Is this somewhat normal? What should i do? (Im open to crazy ideas)

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Are you on anti-depressants?

A few people i know, who stopped taking them, said they felt similar to that while they were on them.

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Are you on anti-depressants?

A few people i know, who stopped taking them, said they felt similar to that while they were on them.

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

All I can say is I know ONE guy you do NOT want to take off lithium. MARS IS THE ASHES OF EARTH THAT'S WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN HELL ARE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING BECAUSE OF ALL THE BAD THOUGHTS IN YOUR HEAD!

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

All I can say is I know ONE guy you do NOT want to take off lithium. MARS IS THE ASHES OF EARTH THAT'S WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN HELL ARE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING BECAUSE OF ALL THE BAD THOUGHTS IN YOUR HEAD!

WHOA! Whoa. I seriously still have that Cherry Pie song from your thread in my head.

What do you want from me?

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

All I can say is I know ONE guy you do NOT want to take off lithium. MARS IS THE ASHES OF EARTH THAT'S WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN HELL ARE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING BECAUSE OF ALL THE BAD THOUGHTS IN YOUR HEAD!

WHOA! Whoa. I seriously still have that Cherry Pie song from your thread in my head.

What do you want from me?

Seriously this guy you'll turn around and he'll just be standing there staring at you breathing all Michael Myers like.

Not much scares me. This guy, tho...

[JoJa]

Originalmente postado por εnigmatic:

Since you like to walk and grow plants. Try 'the thing beatles sang about'. Doesn't sound like you are unhappy,
The normal kind. Not the ones from motorcycle gangs or vegas hookers.

But the kind the Beatles sang about. Best kinds are the ones you produce naturally.
Especially because you say you eat clean you are likely more or less ready.

damn... Im not waiting to die at all in fact i want to make my life awesome. I was thinking that this is happening to me because i made poor choices that probably ♥♥♥♥♥♥ my dopamine receptors but i still wanted to hear an opinion of a lot of people. I might be wrong but that could be the reason why you are feeling so hopeless.

Modern problem. Too much entertainment I could tell right away back in my party days when party favors don't do nothing. My dopamine as well, so much I like biking so I built an electric bike. Make good choices, find something to look forward to.

Work towards goals, because at the end of the day the capitalist market is just trying to sell you the latest gimmick, an iphone or some overpriced crap made in a sweat shop. People don't want to be cogs, they want meaning.

Maybe take a trip. See another country, explore some history. Maybe you need to find something to study or intellectually pursue. I am planning to, financially I know it'll be a mistake but I've been mostly financially responsible for long enough.

If this boredom continues i will definitely do that + i will help my parents.

The first step towards my goal is getting rich and its not because im interested in material goods i never cared about anything like that but i want my freedom i dont want to work 8 hours every day and to be paid to feed my self so i can go tomorrow to work again even if you are millionaire with 8 hours work every day you will still feel miserable.

Yeah thats the plan when i get rich im not much into traveling but sure why not.
And yeah i love to study psychology but lately even that was boring and pointless its like i have nothing new to learn that interests me

Originalmente postado por Riruru:

Maybe aim to learn something in a specific amount of time, set any goals that you always wanted to achieve or even try out different hobbies and try out some game or movie genres that you had no idea or interest about. Maybe something among these may pique your curiosity and you could get rid of that empty feeling. Yes, you can take some chances too but make sure the risks aren't too great to ruin your current way of life. I think you just need to rediscover yourself which might take a while but it will certainly be worthwhile in the end.

yeah i was thinking the same i will probably learn to draw i always wanted to learn that.

And i guess im rediscovering my self :D I was working a lot on trying to become person without pride, pessimistic and cynic way of thinking

Originalmente postado por Morkonan:

Originalmente postado por JoJa:

i get what you are saying but a lot of you guys think im depressed which is not the case. I go out every day and i hike few times a week and i also have plants its probably why i dont feel depressed and miserable.

One of things very often associated with depression is finding oneself not enjoying the things that one had previously enjoyed. Though, that can be natural depending on certain situations.

So, it's not a far-fetched notion. You can be functionally depressed, too, where you're not falling apart, but definitely have something more going on than just a bit of apathy. You are correct in that your other activities could be helpful if you were depressed.

I am also not saying you're depressed, just raising the point in case there's something else going on. It happens, so... /shrug It's something that's good to be sure to get out in the open.

same but i dont think anyone is born psychopath or sociopath

That would be incorrect. (Just pointing it out) Though, childhood trauma, abuse, and other things can also very much contribute.

Yeah thats very true for people who are depressed but im not. Its not like i have no hope i have hope and im seeing a better future ahead its just that everything is boring friends, music, movies, women everything

This is good news.

So, what then is your concern if you can actually see such good things in your life?

yeah i was thinking the same maybe im growing up or something idk. But it feels kind of good sometimes i lost interest in what people are thinking for a lot of things and i feel confident that i can do even crazy things since im bored its like "ok whatever lets do that what else do i have".

Changing interests as you mature is normal.

People are not even in my thoughts anymore its like they lost the meaning in my mind and they are noise its weird and hard to explain. I dont want this to be my new normal but it might be the cost of success because my mind was obsessed with it. Its the same for the things that im supposed to do they are boring and im not motivated to do them but as i said i got nothing better

Earlier, you talked about people and related good thoughts associated with them.

I know very driven and focused people who will honestly say they do not care about anyone else except the few immediate family that have meaning for them, like their wife and children. Other people that they "care" about are only valuable to them for what they can do for them or how useful to them that they are. They're not sociopaths, but in some ways are so distanced from empathy for other people that they can seem that way.

That is not a feeling you should foster.

In some extreme internetz social-media cultures, this sort of attitude is idolized. "Success" gurus preach this kind of stuff. And, manyt of them inevitably run afoul of the law or get sued for unethical practices... For these people, it's truly hard not to label them as socioaths or narcissists. If it walks like a duck...

It seems a lot like a lot of these sorts of people are trying really hard to create their own near-religious belief systems based on '80's success-culture memes.


If you find this may be the case, or something similar, you should try to find a bit more relative value in others, even if you don't know them. Humans have inner lives, feelings, intrinsic value to society at large, and can make meaningful and positive differences in other people's lives, even yours. The guy who just fixed the power outage that you didn't notice, but who worked really hard because he didn't want his customers to be out of power, still had a positive impact on you. He mattered in your life, even though you didn't know it.

It is not weakness to feel empathy for strangers. A lot of Boiler-room Believers touting Success Religion try to alienate their followers from the interference of the more wider, stable, rest of society will start with that - Kindness kills success. So very edgy, right? And, so very isolating when one discovers the only ones who approve are just like they are. Ripe for the pickings.

I just bring it up because you keep mentioning success and related achievements. I don't know that's what you believe, but if that has influenced how you view the value of others then you need to take a step back. Alienating people and refusing to recognize their intrinsic value will not serve you well. They're the ones you will be interacting with and others who may believe that empathy is weakness see you as prey, too. (If it doesn't apply, just disregard.)


You may just be maturing past the interests and values you had when you were younger. If so, explore that a bit and focus on some recreational things, hobbies you may want to try out, working towards something that you think you'd like, etc. It doesn't always take money to find an interest you'd enjoy.

Idk how you can quote specific things so this might look messy

I believe that there are some genes that contribute in certain behavior but genes are changeable and psychopathy for me its just a wild fantasy i think there are sociopaths but i dont believe that there are people who feel 0 empathy or remorse for their actions in the beginning as children. I believe that 90 % of peoples behavior is result from their environment and i dont believe that humans are born evil or that human can be pure evil. Even Hitler which is symbol for evil had done some good deeds. I believe that every psychopath started as sociopath and gradually over time was becoming even worse. I can go on for hours about why i have this opinion for the dark triad but its getting late and im tired.

Im concerned because this phase is probably the beginning for every psychopath and i cant say im enjoying this feeling i try to look at it from a positive side but its ♥♥♥♥♥♥ im not motivated to do anything and i do things out of boredom. Im sabotaging my relationships and they are now boring to me i dont even think about any of the people that were on my mind anymore.

I used to say that but i never believed it, it was a way to protect my self from being hurt or from letting others enjoy while knowing that they hurt me. Im not like that, i love people and the reason why im trying to get rich is to open orphanages and rehabilitating facilities for addicts as silly as it sounds i genuinely believe that i can make this world a better place and one of the reasons why people like me is that because i listen when they talk, i care about them and they feel like they are in therapy (many of them said that, its not coming from my mouth) so yeah i love people

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Are you on anti-depressants?

No never i think its the worst thing that you can take. I have seen many testimony's from people that were on anti depressants the things they say it did to them are pure nightmare that goes as well for anti anxiety meds

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

WHOA! Whoa. I seriously still have that Cherry Pie song from your thread in my head.

What do you want from me?

Seriously this guy you'll turn around and he'll just be standing there staring at you breathing all Michael Myers like.

Not much scares me. This guy, tho...

Noted. F#ck.

[always superspecial]

I feel the same, I think you should prepare for your retirement only

[JoJa]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Are you on anti-depressants?

A few people i know, who stopped taking them, said they felt similar to that while they were on them.

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

i have stared into the abyss my whole life and it costed me my eyes. This is a period that i dedicated to get them back

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por JoJa:

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

i have stared into the abyss my whole life and it costed me my eyes. This is a period that i dedicated to get them back

I've stared into the abyss too. What is your plan?

[JoJa]

Originalmente postado por The Decadent:

It isn't a problem unless you make it a problem. Just don't pay it much mind and go about your life, lest you intend on having your head sucked up your own ass. Once that happens, it's very difficult to pull it out of there.

Yeah i was thinking the same thing it should get better after some time but listening to a lot of opinions made me think about thinks i have never thought before so it was good decision that i made making this post. And i think its good talking about your problems as long as you dont get pleasure from attention and making a problem part of your identity. Then you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when as you said it having your head sucked up your ass your identity is made out of your problems

[JoJa]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por JoJa:

i have stared into the abyss my whole life and it costed me my eyes. This is a period that i dedicated to get them back

I've stared into the abyss too. What is your plan?

To not think about it anymore and live and to change things that are in my reach only.

Did you stared for too long?

[Enigmatic]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por craigsters:

https://youtu.be/RijB8wnJCN0?si=eewdPb_sxZXW1n-M

Okay, okay. Insane in the membrane. But I was going for something a little more lift-your-eyes-up-to-the-horizon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNNTKZ4hEyw

Maybe he should do a litmus test. To see truly if he still has feelings. Maybe just watch the Green Mile

[Blunt Raps]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Are you on anti-depressants?

A few people i know, who stopped taking them, said they felt similar to that while they were on them.

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

One of my coworkers had told me his experience. Ive asked others who got off them, and they mostly agreed. And my sister, who is still on them, also agrees with his take.

He had basically described it like, all of his emotions were numb. Some to the point of irrelevance. Including his conscience. Like he could steal from friends or set them up and not care. And since he got off them (and other drugs), hes got a good job, roomates who all get along. Hes a good dude.

Other drugs likely played a part with the motivation to screw ppl over (coke). But he blames the anti-depressants for being emotionally numb to his actions.

Take it with a grain of salt. Its interesting to hear the take of ppl who got off them though.

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Blunt Raps:

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

I don't think JoJa is medicating. Perhaps he is staring into the abyss.

But I'm curious, can you expand on your experience with people that you know getting off of anti-depressants? Sometimes it feels the prescribed solution exacerbates the problem.

One of my coworkers had told me his experience. Ive asked others who got off them, and they mostly agreed. And my sister, who is still on them, also agrees with his take.

He had basically described it like, all of his emotions were numb. Some to the point of irrelevance. Including his conscience. Like he could steal from friends or set them up and not care. And since he got off them (and other drugs), hes got a good job, roomates who all get along. Hes a good dude.

Other drugs likely played a part with the motivation to screw ppl over (coke). But he blames the anti-depressants for being emotionally numb to his actions.

Take it with a grain of salt. Its interesting to hear the take of ppl who got off them though.

Thank you. I figured as much. There are trade-offs in everything.

Congratulations to your friend.