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4chan is the internet's last hope to preserve freedom of speech
Anywhere else including here will get you banned
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Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:
Messaggio originale di Birds:

You should really change your sheets every now and then. It's important.
But they're so comfy!!!

Imagine having two sets of comfy sheets, one clean and one dirty.

Wouldn't that be nice?
Messaggio originale di Hirenaga:
Messaggio originale di Birds:

you misjudge me.
I don't judge, I enable.

that is a judgement of me, still.

you misjudge me, still.

it's existentially tiring and you make me depressed, not happy.
Messaggio originale di Hirenaga:
Messaggio originale di Birds:

that is a judgement of me, still.

you misjudge me, still.

it's existentially tiring and you make me depressed, not happy.
Then why did you engage? You knew this would happen.

okay ill block this one too, just ask like an ormal person next time.
Messaggio originale di Pirate☠️Pocah:
Messaggio originale di Defenestration:
The point of freedom of speech is to speak freely without the threat of being silenced, these days you don't have to be belligerent just to get banned, you can just simply have a non-conforming opinion. Even then we shouldn't silence people just because someone else got offended by someone else's post. It's also not just on the internet, many western countries aren't really a place of free speech if you can arrested for posting edgy memes under "hate speech" laws.

Any sort of freedom has limits. This is what the law is about. The same applies to speech. There have to be limits. Laws if you will. This is to stop people insulting each other and or expressing opinions that are highly offensive or just downright lies or untruths.
I know it's very difficult to define those "laws" and for sure some places get it wrong, but I don't believe that's reason to just give up and allow anyone to say anything they please without consequence.
I forget who it was who said this about orange box speaking. Eventually, it just declines in to chaos if you don't have any rules.
Freedom of speech is defined to say anything you like as long as you don't make direct violent threats. For example, you can't say something along the lines of "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to kill the US president tommorow." In the US, defamation is also not free speech but I do wonder if there's a possibility this could be used to silence those who speak the truth, for example fabricating evidence towards the accused to make them legally guilty.

The point is being offensive is free speech as long as you're not advocating direct violence, and being offensive is subjective since a statement can offend someone while not offend the other. It's sad we live in a world where people either don't understand free speech or don't respect it at all.
i need a place that will ban me before i cross the line lol, which is almost never in my own defense. thats why I talk here. If i start ranting too hard then off I go. No problem.
Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:
There should be a forum where it isn't moderated except for illegal stuff including but not limited to "CP" (cheese pizza *cough cough*) and threat of violence.
I agree but it would be filled with porn just like 4chan, exclude that and the possibility of actual discussion without the threat of being silenced could happen. Although I'm sure most posts will be troll posts but I think that's ok still.
Ultima modifica da Defenestration; 3 mar 2024, ore 10:33
2006: "The cancer that is killing /b/"
2024: "The cancer that is killing the entire internet."
Messaggio originale di Birds:
Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:
But they're so comfy!!!

Imagine having two sets of comfy sheets, one clean and one dirty.

Wouldn't that be nice?
Sounds like effort.
lole
it's nothing but horny losers tryna help each other nut over degen fetishes
Messaggio originale di Defenestration:
Messaggio originale di Pirate☠️Pocah:

Any sort of freedom has limits. This is what the law is about. The same applies to speech. There have to be limits. Laws if you will. This is to stop people insulting each other and or expressing opinions that are highly offensive or just downright lies or untruths.
I know it's very difficult to define those "laws" and for sure some places get it wrong, but I don't believe that's reason to just give up and allow anyone to say anything they please without consequence.
I forget who it was who said this about orange box speaking. Eventually, it just declines in to chaos if you don't have any rules.
Freedom of speech is defined to say anything you like as long as you don't make direct violent threats. For example, you can't say something along the lines of "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to kill the US president tommorow." In the US, defamation is also not free speech but I do wonder if there's a possibility this could be used to silence those who speak the truth, for example fabricating evidence towards the accused to make them legally guilty.

The point is being offensive is free speech as long as you're not advocating direct violence, and being offensive is subjective since a statement can offend someone while not offend the other. It's sad we live in a world where people either don't understand free speech or don't respect it at all.
The thing is, though, that nobody has to provide a platform or soap box to others. It's perfectly acceptable within "freedom of speech" to direct people elsewhere or not want it on your own property.

Cause "freedom of speech" does not imply "freedom of consequence".
Ultima modifica da Crazy Tiger; 3 mar 2024, ore 10:38
Messaggio originale di Kiler_best1235_Denmark:
Exactly. You can't. It is illegal to host your own forum.

What was the "original" purpose Mr. Internet Builder.

Even if you built a car, you do not decide what the car is used for.

I gave you a true and very very cute comment on your profile sweetie <3
And again, if a guy has put himself from one end of the spectrum to the other in less than a minute then I'm not surprised what the consequences will be.

The pre-Internet era has many interesting ideas for building computer networks for a specific purposes.

While the original idea of the car is to provide faster transportation, isn't that obvious?

Btw, thanks for the comment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Messaggio originale di con:
lole
it's nothing but horny losers tryna help each other nut over degen fetishes

once upon a time that's all it was, and that was fine too.
Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:
Messaggio originale di Defenestration:
Freedom of speech is defined to say anything you like as long as you don't make direct violent threats. For example, you can't say something along the lines of "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to kill the US president tommorow." In the US, defamation is also not free speech but I do wonder if there's a possibility this could be used to silence those who speak the truth, for example fabricating evidence towards the accused to make them legally guilty.

The point is being offensive is free speech as long as you're not advocating direct violence, and being offensive is subjective since a statement can offend someone while not offend the other. It's sad we live in a world where people either don't understand free speech or don't respect it at all.
The thing is, though, that nobody has to provide a platform or soap box to others. It's perfectly acceptable within "freedom of speech" to direct people elsewhere or not want it on your own property.

Cause "freedom of speech" does not imply "freedom of consequence".

By that standard North Korea has free speech.

Again simply looking at the history of attempts to deplatform kiwifarms(just scroll back over the timeline https://t.me/kiwifarms), there is no "just make your own" platform anymore, the left have invalidated their own excuse justifying censorship.
Messaggio originale di Majestic Turkey:
Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:
The thing is, though, that nobody has to provide a platform or soap box to others. It's perfectly acceptable within "freedom of speech" to direct people elsewhere or not want it on your own property.

Cause "freedom of speech" does not imply "freedom of consequence".

By that standard North Korea has free speech.

Again simply looking at the history of attempts to deplatform kiwifarms(just scroll back over the timeline https://t.me/kiwifarms), there is no "just make your own" platform anymore, the left have invalidated their own excuse justifying censorship.

That's probably why they made the excuse in the first place. They felt confident it would fail.

They're very manipulative-minded, and 20 years later that failure hasn't really happened yet. And they have no clear plan besides waiting and waiting.

Almost any 'active' party, no matter how ridiculous their polices are, would have more draw for the average person who actually wants to fix things.
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