oréo基特维兹. 2024 年 2 月 29 日 下午 4:36
is being leader a genetic thing
or something manufactured?
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L1qu1dator 2024 年 3 月 1 日 下午 12:22 
Partly it is.
Xautos 2024 年 3 月 1 日 下午 12:25 
引用自 Xero_Daxter
Leaders aren’t born. They are made.


so does that mean leaders are always stillborn or aborted? because if they are made and are never born, then there is no other way to say it. So if that true then there are no leaders out on this earth.

utterly stupid saying.
Morkonan 2024 年 3 月 1 日 下午 4:00 
引用自 󠀡󠀡
Some people can have the qualities of a leader, but that doesn't make them an able leader. A leader is chosen when the group—under no duress—collectively recognises the quality of a man's abilities; often experience is what also helps to attribute to the quality of recognising a 'good leader'.

In relation to the question, in the history of tribal societies within Europe—nothing like a mass civilised society—a community of often 300> members would hold a mandatory annual set of challenges (games) for both the chieftain and wife as well as their potential successors that tested both their strategy, physical prowess, and wisdom. There was no voting that relied on the empty words of cunning figureheads back then, just tests of hard-nosed practicality without biases and clashes of egos. The only time for voting back then was in the primordial form of a direct democracy, when it came time for each household to speak for their 'own' choice to the chief when time had called for any important decision-making (nothing in the sense of the modern setting of delimitations—life used to be based on the 'Leges Barbarorum' (oral customs based on folkish guidelines)).

Anyhow, to conclude my opinion, a leader is one who can delegate command in times of warfare and coordinate the group in times of peace. A leader must have good mental maturity and demonstrate an ability to look eye to eye with their own people instead of turning towards tyranny for personal benefit. A tyrant is one who takes (and coerces); a leader is one who listens and leads.

Leaders aren't "born" into a position or otherwise feel that they've earned a right to something because of perceived entitlements; they are forged through experience and have proven themselves worthy to the people of being in the position of leadership. Henceforth, from what I understand of the definition: 'lede' (man), 'leder' (leader). A man—not ruler—of the people. A man who leads.

I enjoyed your post!

I'd like to add to it. :)

In European "prehistoric" periods, there is growing evidence that women were more often leaders in their tribes than men. (I forget the cites, and there's too much fluff to rummage through atm. Will look if demanded, tho! :))

But, a "change" took place.

As small groups grew and settled into more territorially dependent enclaves (agriculture/husbandry), men seemed to rise in leadership roles. There's an intriguing assumption, here.

While it hasn't really ever been shown that women were not warriors, it is obvious that more surviving clans had more male warriors than others. Men are just better, physically, at killing and fighting skills and their results. /shrug

Ritual combat is normal for primitive peoples as it reduces death and injury... Skirmishing and raids follow and, with escalation, combat prowess becomes much more important. As territorial disputes and conflict rise, the benefits for organized warfare become more pronounced. And, as that grows, the advantages and benefits in terms relative to the group/clan for effective leaders in organized warfare start to take precedence. Those men produce more for the group than others.

It's sort of a "Organized Warfare Leads to Male Dominated Societies in Ancient Times" theory. As male warriors with exceptional leadership and skill rose, they displaced the traditional female clan heads because their individual contributions were seen as more valuable. They were simply seen as "more worthy" or more desirable as leaders due to social evolution. As warfare involved in scale and scope with the size of the cultures and territory they claimed, men became the more traditional "leader" than the women of smaller clan, less warlike, societies.

When other systems are more valued, this is certainly not always the case. Many ancient cultures have had significant female leadership. And, in heritable leadership, that was true too, up to a point where specific cultural demands began to dictate male rule.

When property ownership started to change to patrilineal hierarchies, that may have signaled the true end to equality in leadership for a very long time. (Decline of Roman empire? Dunno)
Disgruntled Cuttlefish 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 9:52 
引用自 Xautos
引用自 Xero_Daxter
Leaders aren’t born. They are made.


so does that mean leaders are always stillborn or aborted? because if they are made and are never born, then there is no other way to say it. So if that true then there are no leaders out on this earth.

utterly stupid saying.

I agree.
Daenoxiis 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 10:50 
Genetics has nothing to do with it.
Leadership is a set of developmental cognitive and sentient skillsets.
Think of it like a toolbox. You've got your cognitive tools, and your emotional tools.
If you use your emotional tools for a cognitive problem, it's inefficient.
And if you use your cognitive tools for an emotional problem, it's inefficient.

Leadership comes from learning how to use both of these things properly and keeping your ego out of it. Because as soon as you get cocky, that'll be when you screw up. 100% guaranteed. Genuine confidence doesn't gloat and chase clout, it just exists and substantiates in its silent efficiency of being.

It also does kind of depend on what the objective goal is, or even if the goal is objective at all, the goal might in fact be subjective rather than objective which is, an entirely different thing.

My point is that genetics has nothing to do with it at all, it's all skill-based, and knowing how and what to use and when to use said skills.
76561199099449901 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 11:25 
Dunno, but narcissists are good at getting leadership positions
Daenoxiis 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 11:37 
引用自 Ferro Maljinn
Dunno, but narcissists are good at getting leadership positions

Unfortunately, yes. Which is also why they tend to lose them as well.
Management does not hire its own competition, but also those same said managers who won't hire their competition are equally up the creek without a paddle due to their narcissism. Which is how and why they end up getting rotated so easily and so frequently.

See, what it is, and what people think it is, are two totally different things.
But only someone who is actively trying to be good at what they do for a living is going to be applying themselves enough to the development of their job requirements in order to be able to deduce that.

The other mf, is just gonna be like "yeah whatever I'm awesome" and then make a complete fool out of themselves. And the saddest part about this type, is that really can scale all the way up to the ladder of the founder of the company and sometimes so does, which ultimately costs them their business in the long run as a result.
最後修改者:Daenoxiis; 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 11:37
Voroff 2024 年 3 月 3 日 上午 11:40 
Ha, we cut off the head of some king ... because he was kinda very bad at being leader. King is an hereditary position, i guess your topic is answered, again for the 5th time now. The very first post was good enought ;)
Morkonan 2024 年 3 月 3 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 Voroff
Ha, we cut off the head of some king ... because he was kinda very bad at being leader. King is an hereditary position, i guess your topic is answered, again for the 5th time now. The very first post was good enought ;)

But, what if the King was so inbred it made them a bad leader instead of a good one?
Scorpion 2024 年 3 月 3 日 下午 12:46 
99% of leaders, belong to shady orgs and are regulars at certain clubs (bildeberg? rotary? lion's? skull and bones? etc), initiates of pseudo-religions/cults (freemasonry), as well as patrons at certain meetings (ex Davos).

1% of leaders are outside of the aforementioned architecture and regularly targeted, hunted down, framed, assassinated, etc.
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