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is being leader a genetic thing
or something manufactured?
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or is that a religious thing?
Yes. If You say that anybody can be a leader of himself - it´s blasphemous to say, as it endangers all other "real leaders", who keep "the order" - and "oversee" our "well being", as that is "all" what a "real leader" is "interested" in...
in my case, everyone can. guess it has something to do with self dependence over overthrowing someone
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well let's look at pre-napoleonic france, where everything from military leadership to political importance was determined at birth through hereditary circumstances.

whether you like them or not these are the leaders that were created, via their genetics.

most english civil administration is similar, along with the us. maybe slightly more permissive, but still largely determined by hereditary forces. y'know instead of merit or aptitude.

This to me is a very intelligent reply that has me thinking way more than I am used to and I thank you for that.

I will concede (horrible word) that I now think you are right regarding 'hereditary circumstances' in play here and this does make sense to me but I also believe that genetics is different ballgame altogether which cannot be married because it's a totally different 'science'

Interesting :lunar2019smilingpig: :steamthumbsup:

Yeah it's really weird that cedeing a point in a discussion, or changing ones position, is framed as a force of arms conflict. And that discussions are inherently assumed to be zero-sum conflicts. As well as a challenge to status or position, somehow. Many languages have been intentionally shaped to this point, away from linguistic states where things weren't like this. This often creates a loss of linguistic precision in discussing such events, even.

To say nothing of the peculiarity of linguistic artifacts such as 'even' as a meaning of clarification and the coupling of equality and knowledge, linguistically. Or the single word interjection form, so kingly.

Anyway yeah, I'm cutting some corners comparing these things to genetics. Though, as an analogy, consider that most genetic lines are established by an initial merit which is then carried forwards by environmental circumstances. Similar to many hereditary powerstructures.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Birds; 29 Φεβ 2024, 18:25
Are you some sort of AI bot thing as all I see is a jumble of unintelligible words :steamthumbsup:

Let's be done here OK.
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is being leader a genetic thing
or something manufactured?

A bit of both - We're never something that is a product of Nature or Nurture, alone.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Morkonan; 29 Φεβ 2024, 19:15
This is the age old Nature vs Nurture question. Science has proven personalities are influenced equally by genetics and environment. Of course, there can be outliers.
Leaders are sent to those expensive colleges. Other people need luck, or exceptional ability.

With enough money you could hire your own army, or whatever to lead.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Violeta; 29 Φεβ 2024, 19:45
Some people can have the qualities of a leader, but that doesn't make them an able leader. A leader is chosen when the group—under no duress—collectively recognises the quality of a persons abilities; often experience is what also helps to attribute to the quality of recognising a 'good leader'.

In relation to the question, in the history of tribal societies within Europe—nothing like a mass civilised society—a community of often 300> members would hold a mandatory annual set of challenges (games) for both the chieftain and wife as well as their potential successors that tested both their strategy, physical prowess, and wisdom. There was no voting that relied on the empty words of cunning figureheads back then, just tests of hard-nosed practicality without biases and clashes of egos. The only time for voting back then was in the primordial form of a direct democracy (a 'þing'), when it came time for each household to speak for their 'own' choice to the chief when time had called for any important decision-making (nothing in the sense of the modern setting of delimitations—life used to be based on the 'Leges Barbarorum' (oral customs based on folkish guidelines)).

Anyhow, to conclude my opinion, a leader is one who can delegate command in times of warfare and coordinate the group in times of peace. A leader must have good mental maturity and demonstrate an ability to see eye to eye with their own people instead of turning towards tyranny for personal benefit. A tyrant is one who takes (and coerces); a leader is one who listens and leads.

Leaders aren't "born" into a position or otherwise feel that they've earned a right to something because of perceived entitlements; they are forged through experience and have proven themselves worthy to the people of being in the position of leadership. Henceforth, from what I understand of the definition: 'lede' (man), 'leder' (leader). A man—not ruler—of the people. A man who leads.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Barney, from Black Mesa.; 6 Μαρ 2024, 18:12
Situational, depending on your expertise.
up bringing, leaders are forged... by people who see their potential.
this can mean a subservient slave or a mindful master.

regardless they vote in senile people and many of them that have mental triggers.
the guys that can change the world, they kill.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από LoveAndPeace; 29 Φεβ 2024, 22:52
Look at primates, there is clear evidence of the socialization process that occurs in the offspring of high ranking group members, as well as the behavior of those in dominant groups over subordinate groups. Surely those leadership traits are learned.
genetics can be altered by manifestation of the mind... it just takes a loooooooooong time
Well being a good leader comes down to confidence, so yes it CAN be a genetic thing if you are blessed with physical qualities which allow you to be more confident, but that's not all it takes.
Yes, traits required to be a leader are granted at birth by God. Experiences in life can refine or dilute these traits somewhat.

A well-chosen leader is going to be wise before anything else. Most people these days choose leaders for less desirable traits that are relatable and appealing to the ignorant masses who choose them.
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For the purest example of leadership, look to Christ.
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Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Caw Caw Caw; 29 Φεβ 2024, 23:30
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For the purest example of leadership, look to Christ.
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All bibles teach about community building and being a good person. it benefits people to learn about being kind to one another and being involved in their community.
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