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ImSoCool599 2024년 2월 28일 오전 9시 30분
Is college too expensive in America compared to European countries?
I always hear how Europeans "get to go to college for free" and I was curious as to how true this is. As far as I am aware, here in the US college can be more of a luxury for many rather than a right. What is it like in Europe?
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Dyfedeg O' Demetae 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 37분 
California's Community College system is the best example of affordable higher education in the world.
Ganger 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 41분 
Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:

And I am gladly paying the cost of living in a safer, better educated and less stratified society.

I wish this was true... but in the UK we pay very high taxes but our streets are unsafe, dirty, crime ridden melting pots. Just goes to show the moral decay of britian.
Xero_Daxter 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 43분 
Let’s make everything free. In return we get no money but we can get free housing, free food, free education, free transportation, free healthcare, free entertainment (wink), free booze, free animals, free corn, free gas, free guns, and free random stuff
Voroff 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 44분 
Ganger님이 먼저 게시:
Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:

And I am gladly paying the cost of living in a safer, better educated and less stratified society.

I wish this was true... but in the UK we pay very high taxes but our streets are unsafe, dirty, crime ridden melting pots. Just goes to show the moral decay of britian.
You mean nothing has really changed since the victorian era ? Color me surprised.
Stingray_tm 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 45분 
Ganger님이 먼저 게시:
Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:

And I am gladly paying the cost of living in a safer, better educated and less stratified society.

I wish this was true... but in the UK we pay very high taxes but our streets are unsafe, dirty, crime ridden melting pots. Just goes to show the moral decay of britian.

Unless something has severaly changed after Brexit, I can't say that I got that particular impression during my many stays in the UK. Official crime rate statistics also don't point to anything extraordinary.
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Voroff 2024년 2월 28일 오전 11시 54분 
Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:
Ganger님이 먼저 게시:

I wish this was true... but in the UK we pay very high taxes but our streets are unsafe, dirty, crime ridden melting pots. Just goes to show the moral decay of britian.

Unless something has severaly changed after Brexit, I can't say that I got that particular impression during my many stays in the UK. Official crime rate statistics also don't point to anything extraordinary.
Hé, you've strolled throught London and the historical places, or throught the green pastures and pitoresque towns ? The historical towns are great to look at. The real problems begin out of those pitoresque towns, the "newly build things during the 60' to the 90' " are rotting husks, abandonned by the sane persons. Lack of jobs makes unemployment rampant in some parts. As in Paris and Marseille, London has problems with youth gangs violence and drugs.

Like everywhere else you'll tell me, but England is an island. You cant flee your "current problems" very far.
Eskimofo 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 00분 
ImSoCool599님이 먼저 게시:
I always hear how Europeans "get to go to college for free" and I was curious as to how true this is. As far as I am aware, here in the US college can be more of a luxury for many rather than a right. What is it like in Europe?

You get what you pay for. Can't think of any movers and shakers of the world coming out of the European university system.
AdahnGorion 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 02분 
I was paid to do college and university. The education was free as well.
Plaid 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 18분 
You could not compare it to anything and it would still be too expensive
Dyfedeg O' Demetae 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 25분 
Plaid님이 먼저 게시:
You could not compare it to anything and it would still be too expensive
Tuition, including books, is $2000 at community colleges in California. There is financial aid, scholarships, and other ways to cut that cost too.
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Candyy 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 31분 
ImSoCool599님이 먼저 게시:
I always hear how Europeans "get to go to college for free" and I was curious as to how true this is. As far as I am aware, here in the US college can be more of a luxury for many rather than a right. What is it like in Europe?

In Europe you usually have something that idk you call it in english where if you get good marks during a year you are given money that you can use later on for education for that year 🤷‍♀️
The Icecream Snowman 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 36분 
I have a 2:2 degree in chemistry which cost me about £20K in total. I've never used it.

For me university was immensely stressful and a complete waste of time, effort and money.

If you spend £20K on a degree you never use, or $100K on one which gets you a job, which is better value for money?
Stingray_tm 2024년 2월 28일 오후 2시 59분 
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ImSoCool599님이 먼저 게시:
I always hear how Europeans "get to go to college for free" and I was curious as to how true this is. As far as I am aware, here in the US college can be more of a luxury for many rather than a right. What is it like in Europe?

You get what you pay for. Can't think of any movers and shakers of the world coming out of the European university system.

I probably paid a couple of hundred Euros for my education and I got a well paid job out of it. As did all of my friends from back then.
You don't have to become the CEO of an international company to have a successful and fulfilling life, you know...
WarHeRo 2024년 3월 2일 오후 12시 50분 
Thisha님이 먼저 게시:
Humanity should be ashamed that education is still not free for everyone.

I'm not saying anybody should be allowed to do years over and over or try a bunch of directions for free but the base, even university should be free as knowledge is key and every child should know it will have the same chances as everybody else.
Children are not offered university degrees unless they're exceptionally talented. So, it's okay if it's not free. Things that aren't required shouldn't be given away for free.

And no, equity is more important than equality. This means giving people what they need to be successful, rather than treating everyone exactly the same. For example, people with disabilities may need more support to thrive, so it's important to provide accommodations and assistance tailored to their needs. If we only focus on equality and give everyone the same opportunities, it can be difficult for those who are struggling to succeed.
Pieshaman 2024년 3월 2일 오후 12시 57분 
in europe it really differs for each country.
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