Nintendo suing Yuzu (Creator of Nintendo Switch Emu)

[🍃🪻🪷Sylvie🩵🍸🍵]

Apparently, the creators of Yuzu are being sued by Nintendo for circumventing encryption keys for Nintendo Switch games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1b1mghd/twitter_nintendo_is_suing_the_creators_of_popular/

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Don't know and don't care.

More than half or less?

Don't know. Don't care.

[Thermal Lance]

I hope Nintendo gets the shaft. Emulation is important for preservation. Would be a tragedy if companies started shutting down emulation projects left and right.

[Ulfrinn]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

More than half or less?

Don't know. Don't care.

And what percentage of the people pirating Switch games today are doing so via emulation as opposed to hacked hardware? Also more than half. So it's completely disingenuous to say it's not a tool that aids piracy.

[Pierce Dalton]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

Really? Of all the people playing games via emulation, be honest, what percentage of them has never download and played a game they didn't own?

Don't know and don't care.

Well, if you don't know you can simply start asking.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Don't know. Don't care.

And what percentage of the people pirating Switch games today are doing so via emulation as opposed to hacked hardware? Also more than half. So it's completely disingenuous to say it's not a tool that aids piracy.

Ok.

Explain how an emulator that requires a person to dump their own product keys and bios from their console before it plays anything is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how a team who literally refused to update anything to allow a leaked copy of a game to be played is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how an emulator that literally does not have the function to bypass copyright protection is "aiding in piracy".

I'll wait.

[Pierce Dalton]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

And what percentage of the people pirating Switch games today are doing so via emulation as opposed to hacked hardware? Also more than half. So it's completely disingenuous to say it's not a tool that aids piracy.

Ok.

Explain how an emulator that requires a person to dump their own product keys and bios from their console before it plays anything is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how a team who literally refused to update anything to allow a leaked copy of a game to be played is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how an emulator that literally does not have the function to bypass copyright protection is "aiding in piracy".

I'll wait.

You know it doesn't require that.

[Ulfrinn]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Don't know and don't care.

Well, if you don't know you can simply start asking.

I would wager a guess that the people claiming it's not used for piracy, or claiming emulation for a console that is still current is needed for "preservation purposes" are actively using it for piracy themselves and just can't admit to themselves that it is.

[Ulfrinn]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

And what percentage of the people pirating Switch games today are doing so via emulation as opposed to hacked hardware? Also more than half. So it's completely disingenuous to say it's not a tool that aids piracy.

Ok.

Explain how an emulator that requires a person to dump their own product keys and bios from their console before it plays anything is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how a team who literally refused to update anything to allow a leaked copy of a game to be played is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how an emulator that literally does not have the function to bypass copyright protection is "aiding in piracy".

I'll wait.

It doesn't require a person to dump a damn thing. The product keys and bios are easily found online and they know it. Yuzu just doesn't provide it upfront because they know if they did they'd have zero chance of winning a lawsuit against Nintendo. It's called covering their own asses through plausible deniability.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Ok.

Explain how an emulator that requires a person to dump their own product keys and bios from their console before it plays anything is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how a team who literally refused to update anything to allow a leaked copy of a game to be played is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how an emulator that literally does not have the function to bypass copyright protection is "aiding in piracy".

I'll wait.

You know it doesn't require that.

It literally does.

Download the emulator and try to start it without the bios and product keys. You'll get an error and it won't start anything.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Ok.

Explain how an emulator that requires a person to dump their own product keys and bios from their console before it plays anything is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how a team who literally refused to update anything to allow a leaked copy of a game to be played is "aiding in piracy".

Explain how an emulator that literally does not have the function to bypass copyright protection is "aiding in piracy".

I'll wait.

It doesn't require a person to dump a damn thing. The product keys and bios are easily found online and they know it. Yuzu just doesn't provide it upfront because they know if they did they'd have zero chance of winning a lawsuit against Nintendo. It's called covering their own asses through plausible deniability.

Thank you for admitting it doesn't aid in piracy since the team literally supplies nothing that allows pirated content.

[Ulfrinn]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

It doesn't require a person to dump a damn thing. The product keys and bios are easily found online and they know it. Yuzu just doesn't provide it upfront because they know if they did they'd have zero chance of winning a lawsuit against Nintendo. It's called covering their own asses through plausible deniability.

Thank you for admitting it doesn't aid in piracy since the team literally supplies nothing that allows pirated content.

Do you not understand what the term "aid" means? You ain't pirating Switch games on your PC without it.

[Pierce Dalton]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

You know it doesn't require that.

It literally does.

Download the emulator and try to start it without the bios and product keys. You'll get an error and it won't start anything.

Well, you must think that people don't know how to use Google to find what they need? Or any other search engine.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Ulfrinn:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Thank you for admitting it doesn't aid in piracy since the team literally supplies nothing that allows pirated content.

Do you not understand what the term "aid" means? You ain't pirating Switch games on your PC without it.

I do.

They literally don't because of what I just explained and how the emulator works.

By the logic you are saying, CD companies aid in music piracy since they advertise their CDs can store music.

[Ulfrinn]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

It literally does.

Download the emulator and try to start it without the bios and product keys. You'll get an error and it won't start anything.

Well, you must think that people don't know how to use Google to find what they need? Or any other search engine.

Yeah, playing dumb isn't going to save Yuzu, they're probably screwed at this point.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

It literally does.

Download the emulator and try to start it without the bios and product keys. You'll get an error and it won't start anything.

Well, you must think that people don't know how to use Google to find what they need? Or any other search engine.

Does that suddenly change the requirement to supply your own bios and product keys? Or does that suddenly change what I said about Yuzu not supplying those and requiring them to run?