$20 An Hour But Only 10 Hours A Week

[kittyxscratch]

Hello. So I have a job and work 10 hours a week. I get paid about $20 an hour so I make around $200 a week or $800-1000 a month (Some weeks are 15 hours some are 10 but for this post just say 10 hours a week).

I actually like my job and think it's a cool job. I appreciate it and feel that I am making a good wage.

I live in my car. I'm technically homeless. . This is only important to note that I need $500 or less a month for all my expenses so this job is well enough to keep me in an alright position. It is enough to save a few hundred a month and be able to do whatever I want in my free time.

So What is the problem? I think at some point I would like a home but the issues with that are I would need like $1500 a month instead of the $400-500 I do now. I'm sure I could get a second job or get more hours whenever the busier time of year arrives. With 30 hours a week at my current job I have well more than enough.

But at the same time I don't see the purpose of getting an apartment room. What would I do? Just go online except have more privacy? I don't see myself having a family or a partner in life and paying 3X the money per month doesn't make me feel like my life is any more worth it or anything. Paying more and working more just for some privacy doesn't seem worth it to me.

I guess I have a lack of motivation because I don't see much purpose in life and I am not getting in any good relationships either... But more privacy would probably be nice but it wouldn't solve the fact that life feels very pointless and I am pretty lonely in this world. Not many people seem to value the things I value and I feel most people are very "low value" and would be a negative for me (people who do drugs, alcohol, smoke, cuss, or do sexual things,etc...).

SO the issue is I feel something is missing and regardless of if I have a room and more privacy or make more money I guess I don't see the point of trying to hard to never really get anywhere?

[Zara]

What do you want me to do brother?

How many days in a week do you work?

[kittyxscratch]

Цитата допису RexIes:

What do you want me to do brother?

No idea... I just posted to post... Just like life I am expecting nothing and yet for some reason still hoping for something of value to arise from this existence.

[Morkonan]

Цитата допису kittyxscratch:

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SO the issue is I feel something is missing and regardless of if I have a room and more privacy or make more money I guess I don't see the point of trying to hard to never really get anywhere?

That's the problem, really.

You can live your life how you wish. But, as you get older, you're going to want more security, more surety, in your daily life and having some kind of space/home that is yours can provide that, even if it's "rented."

Not every region has support for homeless persons. And, considering political sentiment, one can be assured that more effort is going to be put into discouraging homeless residents. Aid may continue, but support that is seen to perpetuate "the problem" is going to get whittled down. Most homeless are not their by choice and many suffer from substance abuse issues or mental health problems.

You are, in effect, voluntarily placing yourself in an undesirable demographic.

Seek assistance in obtaining longer-term, stable, employment, and education/skills that can be marketable and help provide you with a suitable income.


Though you may not have thought about it, if you had a better job it wouldn't mean you could no longer be homeless... You are free to choose, at that point, if you wished. Right now, your choices are severely restricted.

[MinionJoe]

Do you at least get to wear gloves whenever you want?

[Azza ☠]

Couldn't you live in a motor home or caravan, depending on if you have an area to be able to legally park it?

Otherwise considering flat mates and living with others?

I would suggest looking up the homeless person who became a millionaire and then went back to being homeless, because he preferred that lifestyle. He showed how he got free meals still in the wrappers, thrown out by bakeries who make them fresh daily. Got free clothes and got free shelter, etc. Kept the expenses to a bare min, that he still was making a profit.

It doesn't really matter how much income you make, so long it's...

Profit = Income + Passives > Expenses + Liabilities

Note other people who have won lotto and don't know how to manage their money tend to end up in more dept than they started, due to buying just expenses and liabilities.

Being rich doesn't drive you happiness. Rather being wealthy and being financially stable does.

Still don't be afraid of money, just have it work for you, rather than being a slave of it. Don't let it control you and take you away from your passions in life.

[Vox]

Well you need to find a higher paying job, does the government not provide any help?

[LexAnimex]

Цитата допису kittyxscratch:

I guess I have a lack of motivation because I don't see much purpose in life and I am not getting in any good relationships either...

Same. At least you like your job. That's great.

[Dryspace]

You haven't said anything about why you are homeless, which is a very important point. Contrary to what most people think, there are two main causes of homelessness: Drug abuse and mental illness. People do not become homeless simply because they "can't afford rent".

You say that you don't use drugs recreationally, and the fact that you have a job suggests that any psychological problems you may have are not serious.

You are apparently financially responsible, which puts you in the top ~20% of (American) society. Saving as much money as possible is great --- that's what I'm all about --- but living in a vehicle in order to cut expenses is harsh, to say the least.

I suggest that you look for someone who is renting a room, or perhaps try to find a few people to share a rental with.

But then, if you're fine with the hardships of having no bathroom, and no kitchen (cooking your own food is not only healthy, it's a great way to save money --- I was spending $2 a day on food by never eating out and stocking up on food when it's on sale).

Anyway, you're not supposed to "get anywhere", except hopefully to Heaven. You're just supposed to be happy, and only you know what will make you happy.

[-V-]

>homeless living in car
>calls other people "low value"
Irony alert.

Sounds like things are fine. There really isn't much more to life tbh. You work and then you die. That's it. That's life. Your needs are met, and that's all anyone can ask for.

Used to be "if you don't work hard, you'll end up living in a van by the river!"

Now its "if you work hard, you could live in a van by the river!"

[-V-]

Цитата допису Dryspace:

You haven't said anything about why you are homeless, which is a very important point. Contrary to what most people think, there are two main causes of homelessness: Drug abuse and mental illness. People do not become homeless simply because they "can't afford rent".

Have you been outside lately? Have you looked at the price of living indoors? If you are by yourself, you CANNOT afford it. Anywhere. Unless you have a GREAT job, which most people don't. The US has a service based economy, and service jobs don't pay much. People who are on drugs are the visible minority. You see them. What you don't see are the people like OP, who make up the bulk of homeless. They are the invisible majority.

Did you miss the whole "housing crisis" going on? If it was so simple, so easy to fix, so uncommon, there wouldn't be a crisis at all.

So yeah, "contrary to what you might think" the financial data is out there, in plain sight, for all to see.

Let's take OP for example. $20/hr. If he worked "full time" (here that is 32hrs, bc anything more than that and the company would have to offer benefits, which most don't) that's a gross of 2,560/mo. That would qualify him for a rent (typically 2.5x) of 1,024. That is below the average rent in every region, in every city. Still possible, but tight. OP could potentially afford rent in some run down boonies. However, quality of life would likely decrease in doing so. OP is better off living in his car, even with full time employment.

[brain stew]

Interesting strategy.

If I were to ever find myself in some sort of similar situation, outside of the 10 hours of work per week, I'd probably hazard to spend every waking moment trying to make extra money, or at the very least pursuing some sort of education or skill so as to not be eternally confined to this type of lifestyle.

[Dryspace]

Цитата допису -V-:

What you don't see are the people like OP, who make up the bulk of homeless. They are the invisible majority.

So yeah, "contrary to what you might think" the data is out there, in plain sight, for all to see.

Have you ever been homeless? To be blunt, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think that the majority of homeless are straight-laced working Joes with great money-management skills.

The data is, in fact, in plain sight for all to see. I suggest you spend a week among the homeless, and then report back.

[-V-]

Цитата допису Dryspace:

Цитата допису -V-:

What you don't see are the people like OP, who make up the bulk of homeless. They are the invisible majority.

So yeah, "contrary to what you might think" the data is out there, in plain sight, for all to see.

Have you ever been homeless? To be blunt, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think that the majority of homeless are straight-laced working Joes with great money-management skills.

The data is, in fact, in plain sight for all to see. I suggest you spend a week among the homeless, and then report back.

Yes and

No u

[Dryspace]

Цитата допису -V-:

Yes and

No u

Your own words prove that you have never been homeless, and that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Whoever you are getting your information from --- you need to stop listening to them.

[-V-]

Цитата допису Dryspace:

Цитата допису -V-:

Yes and

No u

Your own words prove that you have never been homeless, and that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Whoever you are getting your information from --- you need to stop listening to them.

No u.

You have zero idea who I am, what I've done, what I've been through, or how I got to where I am. You don't know my friends, my family, or any of my people. You don't know who I've taken into my home, and you don't know who has taken me into theirs. You don't know how many years I spent on the road. You don't know how much time I spent in my car.

You are absolutely oblivious to the world around you, and your detachment from reality is obvious to everyone around you.

I am not obligated to tell you my life story. I don't have to prove anything to you.

May you have the life you deserve.