What do you think of universal basic income...

[dyinggg]

backed by each person's % of ownership of earth's natural resources, given to us by our creator...as a stake in our world?

Does each person alive at any given time own a percentage of Earth's natural resources?

I named the thread this way to trigger people in hopes of serious replies, but it is just decentralized ownership vs. private ownership.

Should people earn residuals based on the amount of resources available vs how much is used, or be able to stake claim to their share of materials?

[Bassturd]

I think we are all screwed. lol

[Pierce Dalton]

Why not? I'd rather send my taxes to the poor than to filthy rich politicians.

[Prinzip]

The Universal Basic Income is in my eyes such a fantastical and ethereal concept (as it stands) that it's not even worth humoring.

[Pocket Change]

You're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid you think the government is going to give you free money for existing. It's going to be highly restricted similar to welfare and SSI. Not to mention you risk inflating our currency by printing the money to begin with.

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por Hundred thousand billion medkits:

The Universal Basic Income is in my eyes such a fantastical and ethereal concept (as it stands) that it's not even worth humoring.

There's nothing fantastical about it, in fact it's just around the corner. When the robots take over and the majority of the population can't find a job, there'll be no escape from it.

[Yew Nough]

From one human to another: There is a simple and common reason why we can't have nice things.

It's call Greed and Stupidity.

[dyinggg]

Publicado originalmente por TED JESUS CHRIST GOD ALLAH:

You're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid you think the government is going to give you free money for existing. It's going to be highly restricted similar to welfare and SSI. Not to mention you risk inflating our currency by printing the money to begin with.

Using their own logic, our creator gave us rights, for our government to protect, did not also god give us natural resources to utilize for our means of living? Shouldn't government protect those resources also?

[Violeta]

The boomers heard A.I. when the rest of us heard "Often wrong chatbot". And the boomers are like OMG The machines do everthing!

[dyinggg]

Publicado originalmente por Hirenaga:

We have it in my country, I think it is about 2k before earnings. So if you earn less, it gets topped up to 2k but if you earn more, you get nothing.

It would solve the homeless problem, and it is based in their own reality structure. It seems completely logical and reasonable for a civilized society.

[Birds]

as long as we are entertaining stratified wealth we need to create a stable base to support people's ambitions with. otherwise there isn't any reason to build upwards, just push down.

the main issue is that it's assumed peoples engagement with economic forces has become so hard-coded that they'd sabotage themselves pushing down even when it didn't make sense.

which they're already doing, so again adding a stable foundation can only lead to benefits.

[Prinzip]

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por Hundred thousand billion medkits:

The Universal Basic Income is in my eyes such a fantastical and ethereal concept (as it stands) that it's not even worth humoring.

There's nothing fantastical about it, in fact it's just around the corner. When the robots take over and the majority of the population can't find a job, there'll be no escape from it.

You assume there would be a benefit to sustain an increasingly ballooning population while their usefulness decreases. We may of course argue about the effect UBI would have on population, but let's keep the discussion simple.

Here are my counter-arguments:

1. Violence is the ultimate authority. The governments and corporations have the most violence.
2. The tendency for two people to disagree will prevent enough peace to introduce the UBI.

[ナルゴ]

Pointless to implement it unless the world is already post-scarcity.

[Pocket Change]

Publicado originalmente por bisder🎗:

Publicado originalmente por TED JESUS CHRIST GOD ALLAH:

You're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid you think the government is going to give you free money for existing. It's going to be highly restricted similar to welfare and SSI. Not to mention you risk inflating our currency by printing the money to begin with.

Using their own logic, our creator gave us rights, for our government to protect, did not also god give us natural resources to utilize for our means of living? Shouldn't government protect those resources also?

Peak schizo posting. You're not getting UBI and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por ⛧:

The boomers heard A.I. when the rest of us heard "Often wrong chatbot". And the boomers are like OMG The machines do everthing!

They can do pretty much everything, yes, and robots will never ask for a raise or get tired. We're on the brink of another revolution, similar to the Industrial one.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

It wouldn't work in America because everyone is either a wage slave or a capitalist making money off the destitute. The middle class is shrinking and AI will soon take many jobs.