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800000 years ago, half of the USA blew up, so that part has all it's resources spread around most of north america in a thin layer or even under water.
The West coast is so fractured, that trying to drill deeper ain't an option.
The east coast will turn into the north pole in 30 years or so, cause recently the gulfstream there died.
So they start wars for resources. And the EU countries can police after, and take care of the refugees and buy those recources for lots of money.
We have seen, that the USA does not keep it's agreement if it comes to the weapons they deliver and promised. Example the F35 is garbage. What supposed to be 1 plane is now 4 planes. We don't need 3 of them.
Also Trump forgot, that HQ is in Brussel, and that the big boss is Norwegian.
Whoa whoa, please explain me more how you conclude America does not want to part of Nato because Trumps supporters ... dont ..; read things ? There could be a link, if Trump is elected, until that i fail to see the connection :/
And yes : America is launching wars for profit and not ethics, that is ... not new.
Ho, that ? That's politics 101, "find someone to bash a bit because you cant be asked to be responsible for yer own sh!tte and now you need to deflect the conversation in a way we cant be proud of ourselves" bit.
A LOT easier to pull off when the other side is not complaining, like the Euros that dont not listen because it's local regurgitations on the other side of the world and cannot respond - if they cared, anyways.
I will never forgot nor forgive the French spilled wine. On this bit we can agree to kick them out.
If we hand over the EU to Russia without a fight. Then for 99% of the population nothing will change. The other 1%, can pay their debt of in a Gulag.
In this case, if the US wanted to leave NATO, it would have to join the alliance China, Russia and a few others have which is not something the US can honestly work with given how much that would backlash its entire infrastructure and trade.
As for Dump, he hates just about anything that is not American, the dude was elected because he's a walking talking Pez dispenser of memes, literally tricked his elderly father into removing his siblings from the Will and stealing all of the money for himself, has several ongoing shady deals with people across the planet, built his tower without a fire system because he didn't want to pay for Fire regulation checks which now resulted in the death of a firefighter when the damn thing caught on fire and this is also ignoring his countless issues before even getting into office.
I won't even get into his current problems as thats another topic in of itself but at the end of the day, what Dump claims at any point, he only speaks for himself and no one else. He can have all the supporters in the US and across the planet but at the end of the day, he speaks for himself alone.
Its no different then how prior people in Congress though their position gave them far more authority then they actually held, like when the Senator of New Hampshire tried to take Valve to court but got denied because the studio is neither in her state, nor is it her duty to deal with the platform to start with, yet tried to anyways by rallying the anti-jewish hate group behind her.
She still failed but the point is, the US government is 99% talk, and 1% show, and that goes for basically every single person in office including the president.
They do "research," but only using sources that echo Trump's fantasy world mindset and Trump conspiracy-theory garbage.
So, in essence, they spend hours "researching" and then think that effort validates their "discovery." A hundred hours of wrong-work does not make a right-outcome...
Uh... nothing you stated supports that conclusion.
I don't know any fellow American that does not wish to remain a primary NATO partner.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/
I don't know of any more recent polls that are as reliable. Keep in mind that the US is going through election politics... Even if Trump wins, a lot of crap he's been spewing in the last week is unlikely to ever happen. If elected, he would not be a King... As happened while he was President, others in the administration and even in the military were NOT going to allow him to carry out some of his more wacky notions and demands. His administration faced several instances of threats of mass resignation in response to some of his demands, which forced him to back down.
So, what "research" are you basing your opinion on that US Citizens want to leave NATO?
You do realize Trump is playing to as many extremists as he can, right? Don't take his rhetoric, no matter how loudly it reaches across the pond, as "general sentiment."
And, what happened to the EU Defense Policy? You know, now that the UK slid out of the EU? That's still a thing, AFAIK, but it just doesn't quite have the teeth that NATO Article 5, has, IIRC.
Most of the people I hear moaning about NATO & Europe fall into two categories: People who think the money spent on these endeavors would somehow make their lives better if the USA isolated itself, and people who have a genuine (though not always well-informed) aversion to USA's foreign policies themselves. (I mean real people, not online people.)
Even when the economy is good, people do kind of joke or scoff about Europe, but, y'know, so what.
American voters : We want more Trump over everybody else and we hate NATO too so we vote Trump.
No disrespect to all posters that is the way it is. Look at how many people voting for Trump to run Republicans and the country.
Thats it.
Like sure we can say that Biden had hell of a time working with the pandemic and other situations but even then, he's not done a better job. I hate to bring this up but for example, Trump was the first president after Obama to realize that the Taliban and Al'qu-whatever their called, are not the same people, they ruled the same nation sure but the Taliban hated the terrorists just as much thus in Qatar signed a peace treaty with the group which ya, lead to the horrificly bad pull out of the middle east, but it does display that Trump had a grasp on diplomatic ties and difference of groups then alot of other leaders didn't have.
That same coin, he's not exactly the most diplomatic peace wise either, but honestly Biden does a good job on that front.
It sucks we can't have some dude that at least is good at both sides of the coin but one or the other does not really work as we speak, and America is getting railed over the last few weeks because of our weak and inactive leadership.
The Bundeswehr, spends more then enough. Not just that, Germany has the backup. Of Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium and a few countries more.
And why should the EU spend more. Go for once fight somewhere else. Instead of Europe, constantly.
I'm starting to think that either Americans are a bunch of softies hating the cold. With that i mean, start throwing some fingers in the Bering strait. Or that we indeed live on a flat Earth, and Europe is in the middle.