What's the hardest genre for developers to get right?

[Incarnate]

I've probably played at least 20 stealth games in my life (not counting games with stealth builds), over quarter of century. And I think I would recommend maybe three of them. I honestly don't know if most devs even understand the genre.

[Paratech2008]

Mario Kart has rubber banding and too many racing games do as well.

I enjoy Mario Kart but hate that aspect and the purple shell.

[talemore]

Realistic stealth is the man who was killed by an umbrella in London.

[Incarnate]

Originalmente postado por Paratech2008:

Mario Kart has rubber banding and too many racing games do as well.

I enjoy Mario Kart but hate that aspect and the purple shell. :madkitty:

Pretty sure all arcade racers are made for casuals. Never played them, but from what I heard Burnout and Need for Speed are apparently notorious for extreme rubberbanding.

Yes, GTA probably has more realistic and fair racing than dedicated racing franchises. GTA IV also probably has way better physics and damage modeling than 99% of them too.

That kind of sums up racing games as a genre. You either need to spend 250 bucks on a wheel and pedal to master a simulator-game ... or you get arcadey bs where the game plays like bumper cars. (Looking at you Forza Horizon).

[Incarnate]

Originalmente postado por talemore:

Realistic stealth is the man who was killed by an umbrella in London.

That would actually make for a cool game, kind of like old-school Thief but in the cold war.

But who are we kidding. It's 2024, the the devs would f**k it up with silly x-ray vision, a spongey boss fight, level gating, and tiered weapons.

[talemore]

Originalmente postado por Incarnate:

Originalmente postado por talemore:

Realistic stealth is the man who was killed by an umbrella in London.

That would actually make for a cool game, kind of like old-school Thief but in the cold war.

But who are we kidding. It's 2024, the the devs would f**k it up with silly x-ray vision, a spongey boss fight, level gating, and tiered weapons.

Some say James Bond shouldn't have gadgets but the real stealth killer weapons are all gadgets.

Nobody knows what the letters with white power was about but I guess it was just a test on how easy it would be to kill them.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Bee jousting simulators. Or BJS as most people call them.

[kbm phantom.♡]

Originalmente postado por Xero_Daxter:

"All Genres".

Basically a Free2Play Open World MMORPG Survival Horror in space with time traveling ninjas driving fast race cars in a soccer field whilst solving a puzzle in a digital universe owned by Hello Kitty..... and it's also a dating simulator.

Sounds like Warframe and Rocket League

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Stealth (insert forced stealth mission)
Simulators (so many ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ones)

Open world RPGs, so many people define a RPG as being "good" when it's open world.
Yet so many open world RPG games are subpar compared to even SNES or even PS2 games in terms of being a refined experience.

I love exploring empty boring worlds just to collect a bunch of random ♥♥♥♥

[talemore]

Rpg is hard that is why there are few rpg and many action adventure games who calls themselves rpg

[talemore]

All genre are odd
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1981610/Wanted_Dead/
But like said not rpg because the concept is very hard. You get to play annon.

Annon is not a person. It is just the actor used to move the object. Annon has a fixed name, fixed face and fixed background story.

You can make it a rpg but it is so simple and that make it hard. It is easier to add content than to make it grow with the game.

The closest we can get is mmorpg.

But the issue is that we are asking for rpg and not mmorpg and without the humans we haven't had the tool available until recently to create real rpg games.

Those games like the witcher are not rpg. It is action adventures.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

One that comes to mind is CRPG. All those numbers and dice rolls and stuff. Looking at the CRPG games of old say around the early 2000s and 90s they are something that I feel should be developed more today.