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bear or gorilla
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They have actually captured that fight in real life already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAP5qWnBek

TL;DR: Gorilla wins, because he can use tools.
Messaggio originale di vkobe:
Messaggio originale di Vendicator Senpai:
Depends is Donkey Kong more powerful than Teddie from Persona 4?
he lost against mario

No. Cranky lost to Mario.

DK beat him up in the sequel.
Messaggio originale di Electric Cupcake:
Messaggio originale di vkobe:
he lost against mario

No. Cranky lost to Mario.

DK beat him up in the sequel.
pffft you didnt watch the movie
Messaggio originale di trinblue7:
But can they beat goku?
depend red son superman vs goku ???
Messaggio originale di Triple G:
They have actually captured that fight in real life already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAP5qWnBek

TL;DR: Gorilla wins, because he can use tools.
it is not gorilla, but bigfoot
Messaggio originale di vkobe:
Messaggio originale di Electric Cupcake:

No. Cranky lost to Mario.

DK beat him up in the sequel.
pffft you didnt watch the movie

DK wasn't in the movie. Unless you have the headcanon that the gangster guy got turned into him by the Super Scope "devo gun"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrlALQVEKM&pp=ygURa2luZyBrb29wYSBtb25rZXk%3D
Ultima modifica da Electric Cupcake; 11 feb 2024, ore 10:55
Messaggio originale di Qlone:
Gorilla with AK-47
Bear wearing body armor
Messaggio originale di Stranger:
...no it's much slower and clumsier than a gorilla, as well as significantly less flexible,

It's 1800 lbs of pissed off...

It's not a dance competition.

and the gorilla literally just needs to punch it in the chest or head once. bears have so much weight and redundant tissue that a gorilla simply falling on them could break their sternum, neck, or collar bone. any form of grappling would allow the gorilla to wholly overpower it. the bear essentially gets one shot to end it outright, or they're toast.

That is nonsense. Even bears can't always kill each other... You're spouting gibberish - It is a big animal evolutionarily evolved to be a big animal. Its bones have evolved to not only support its weight, but to be extremely robust, enabling the largest of the species to be the apex predator in any environment they exist.

[quote\bears have 30-50% weaker muscle tissues than a gorilla on average, black bears being the 50% candidate, and weigh typically twice as much relative to muscle mass. even if mass were a direct translation to muscle strength, which it's not it's an exponential limiter on muscle strength, they'd still be 40-60% as strong as gorilla.[/quote]

This is ridiculous babble. "Weaker muscle tissues" - What does that even mean? It's nonsense. Why? Are you trying to be serious, here? It's hard to tell, but whatever your tactic is it looks like... babble for the sake of babbling.

you're basically saying butterball or yarbrough could beat mike tyson, just because they weigh more.

It's 1800 lbs of "get out of my way" against 500 lbs of "i chew plants." There is no contest, here. This is not some Shaolin Temple tourist demonstration match. The bear is not going to take a fall just to let the crowd be impressed by the gorilla's "Drunken Crane" Kung Fu...

In reality, odds are the gorilla would try to leave and the bear, unless it has been having a bad day, isn't going to be inclined to expend a lot of effort chasing a gorilla down. (It totally could, though.) As someone pointed out, gorillas may get a bit mad from time to time, but they are not predators. Their size/strength is also likely an evolutionarily reinforced attribute due to their social and mating practices - Big males win dominance duels and get to mate. (Like big bulls, horses, other herbivores with similar social strategies) Territoriality likely plays a role too, but only between gorilla groups, not gorilla vs bear situations.

But, if they did meet in a back-alley somewhere, the only one walking away from that fight is the bear.

*Assuming we are talking about the most capable members of both species.


PS: Blunt force trauma does not usually kill instantly. If it's such a terrifyingly effective means of winning Bear duels, name us some land predators that commonly hunt by using blunt force trauma. (IOW - No, it's not a primary attack weapon in a predator's arsenal. Predators need to reduce the chance they are injured while predating, so quicker methods are much more selected for. )
Bear with me
Silverback VS Polar Bear

There's one for ya.
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Messaggio originale di vkobe:
pffft you didnt watch the movie

DK wasn't in the movie. Unless you have the headcanon that the gangster guy got turned into him by the Super Scope "devo gun"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrlALQVEKM&pp=ygURa2luZyBrb29wYSBtb25rZXk%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EIXPOw_Wzs&ab_channel=Movieclips
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Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Have you actually seen a large bear attack something? I seen a video not too long ago of one pouncing on a large herbivore, either a moose or an elk and just brute force slamming it to the ground and ending it. It was one of the most powerful and aggressive attacks I ever seen and the bear seemingly came from nowhere. It had all the agility it needed for a fight.

no it's much slower and clumsier than a gorilla, as well as significantly less flexible, and the gorilla literally just needs to punch it in the chest or head once. bears have so much weight and redundant tissue that a gorilla simply falling on them could break their sternum, neck, or collar bone. any form of grappling would allow the gorilla to wholly overpower it. the bear essentially gets one shot to end it outright, or they're toast.

bears have 30-50% weaker muscle tissues than a gorilla on average, black bears being the 50% candidate, and weigh typically twice as much relative to muscle mass. even if mass were a direct translation to muscle strength, which it's not it's an exponential limiter on muscle strength, they'd still be 40-60% as strong as gorilla.

you're basically saying butterball or yarbrough could beat mike tyson, just because they weigh more.

Bears are neither slow, nor clumsy. Have you ever seen one in action? Or use it's claws to tear open a car like a can opener? Adult wild male gorillas max recorded weight was around 200kg or 440lbs. Brown bears in the wild go up to 600KG or 1,300lbs. Polar bears go up to 800kg or over 1,700lbs. You understand these are triple and quadruple the size, weight, and strength.
Gorilla can launch projectiles,can't they? They could throw logs, rocks at the bear, absolutely decimate it.
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Gorilla can launch projectiles,can't they? They could throw logs, rocks at the bear, absolutely decimate it.


Does the Gorilla know to do that tho, I mean what if they are in the desert? Who gets the jump the bear or the gorilla?
Ultima modifica da Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo; 11 feb 2024, ore 14:26
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Messaggio originale di g.:
Gorilla can launch projectiles,can't they? They could throw logs, rocks at the bear, absolutely decimate it.


Does the Gorilla know to do that tho, I mean what if they are in the desert? Who gets the jump the bear or the gorilla?
Depends on the bear, then.
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