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I no longer buy from places where you have to tip employees
Enough is enough. I'm not tipping, it's awkward if you forget and bad if done intentionally.
This includes all restaurants,door dash, uber eats and the works. If I see a food place I like I'll call them and ask if they accept tips and if they do I walk.

I'm tired of paying your employees wages
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Harry The Gamer の投稿を引用:
Meh. Just means you can't do math.
That's a weird cope.
Employers should pay their employees enough without tipping making the difference between being able to survive or not.
󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Sakuranbo の投稿を引用:
tipping is just dumb
we don't have this here anyway so it's just some more white person thing from my perspective

so singapore = white people?
󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Sakuranbo の投稿を引用:
Stranger の投稿を引用:

so singapore = white people?
the tipping culture is, i am talking about my place

singapore has resisted all forms of colonization by any group but the han chinese.

it has a hyper-aggressive tipping culture where you can get banned from places for giving the wrong tip, either too much or too little.

this is due to the corporate culture and how taxes are handled.
最近の変更はStrangerが行いました; 2024年2月11日 2時31分
American tipping culture is slowly heading over here to the UK and it needs to be outlawed. Even tho, bar, cafe, shop staff and the like earn a minimum wage of £10.42 per hour (age 23+). From April 2024 it will rise too £11.44 per hour.

I will confess, I will leave some tip for the staff were I buy my daily coffee's from. I known them for years now and every once in a while they will just give me free coffee and/or cake or charge me less, so it swings and roundabouts. But I be damned if im leaving tips for shop workers or self service checkouts (as in the case of some self service checkouts).
Morkonan の投稿を引用:
In a decent restaurant with good hours, a waiter/waitress can make stripper-level money... Well, maybe not that much, but their job security is at least better
Ha, the good ol'lie about equal opportunity justified by "some are lucky and can earn a living".

First : job security, as a waiter without diploma ? If you are living in a Twin Peaks kind of town, yes, but otherwise : since when what is by definition kleenex-people have any form of job security ? They are hired because they agree on low wages from thevery beginning.
Then, seconds, yes there may be some waiters earning a good living in theory, but are you aware of the reality on the field, where the majority of them have troubles making enought money ?

Anyhow, when a delivery dash dude wants to have mo'money, i'd suggest kindlly asking them if they are currently, actively, undertaking steps to find another job that is better paid.
最近の変更はVoroffが行いました; 2024年2月11日 2時45分
Will you at least donate $2 to Feed the Chickens? It's a charity that feeds the chickens! You know what I can tell you're a good guy so I'm not even gonna ask I'm just gonna add that extra $2 to your bill and you have a nice day sir 😊
最近の変更はViolent Rainbowが行いました; 2024年2月11日 3時02分
Bagel 2024年2月11日 3時08分 
A small tip is newer wrong imho.
󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Sakuranbo の投稿を引用:
Stranger の投稿を引用:

singapore has resisted all forms of colonization by any group but the han chinese.

it has a hyper-aggressive tipping culture where you can get banned from places for giving the wrong tip, either too much or too little.

this is due to the corporate culture and how taxes are handled.
learned something new today i guess
edit: i did not

China also has a tipping culture, but it was only due to the loss of central authority and oversight that Singapore began using tips as a form of tax lien allayment. This was strictly prohibited under Chinese authority as it complicated tax accounting unnecessarily, and turned the process of paying taxes into a 'game' of hide and seek.

Kowloon is rather infamous for its hide and seek festival, if I recall correctly. Which had its origins in similar cultural ideas as the Wudang Blood Cults, the intent being to create a culture which encourages the development of spies and assassins.

Midori の投稿を引用:
Stranger の投稿を引用:

singapore has resisted all forms of colonization by any group but the han chinese.

it has a hyper-aggressive tipping culture where you can get banned from places for giving the wrong tip, either too much or too little.

this is due to the corporate culture and how taxes are handled.
Idk who I trust, you or the thousands of Google results saying the complete opposite 😳

some guy on a forum, or SEO bots?

what do the SEO bots tell you, or am I supposed to argue against a blank wall?
最近の変更はStrangerが行いました; 2024年2月11日 3時21分
I've no problem tipping due to the fact a lot of the service industry workers were I live are on meager wages and treated like dirt and it doesn't hurt to say thanks to McDonalds staff. Christmas tips jars in shops especially off licences (Liquor stores) I've no problem tipping provided it's shared equally and isn't used to embellish the staff bonus by the manager/owner and they're respectful.

Cheek or rudeness they get zero. Respect goes both ways, also I help pay their wages by shopping there. No customers no job.
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Bunni Bealla の投稿を引用:
american tipping culture is interesting to me
very rare to find people doing it here uwu

It's ingrained into our system. A waitress gets paid 2.50 an hour instead of 15.00 because they must make it up in tips. Many public service workers are underpaid so they must make it up in tips. That is not gonna change from people cheating them. aka stealing from them.

It's to encourage good customer service. An issue in Europe, and many Europeans will even admit it, is customer service tends to be lacking in a lot of industries that deal with people because so long as they're not so offensive that they get fired, there's really no reason to make any real effort to make sure your service is actually good.
Tipping is a stupid concept. Imagine doing a job and the customer decides if you get to eat tonight. Yeah… dumb idea.
Midori の投稿を引用:
Stranger の投稿を引用:


some guy on a forum, or SEO bots?

what do the SEO bots tell you, or am I supposed to argue against a blank wall?
Does a search engine indexing a page make it a fabricated bot post in your mind? 🤔
This forum gets indexed by Google sometimes too, you know?
yeah and bots and brigades keep trying to manipulate answers and topic seo to make sure that google's ai scrapes the 'correct' information off of the thread in answer.

Anyway the other results were forums too, but Singaporeans telling tourists (thousands of times over) there's no tipping culture. Why should I believe you after witnessing that?

Oh, there isn't one for tourists. Citizens can be sued over it though (they use a form of 'legal credit score' to handle this,) so it usually goes in the family corporation along with the car to insulate them from such suits.

I'd assume everyone on those forums is involved in Singapore tourism, and that they've manipulated the SEO results to maximize tourist comfort and information relative to their expected stay.
最近の変更はStrangerが行いました; 2024年2月11日 3時41分
Hirenaga の投稿を引用:
Ganger の投稿を引用:
But I be damned if im leaving tips for shop workers or self service checkouts (as in the case of some self service checkouts).
Where have you seen self-service checkouts demanding tips? Ohhh..... you mean the round up for charity thing?

Yes in the UK it's charity donations you can leave but when I was in america in 2022, I can recall encountering them which took me by surprise.
I didn't mind tipping if someone did give me great service. I still don't. When I was younger, the waitresses and waiters would really work hard for the tips. My meal would always be correct before being brought to me. Now, they just bring it out and I have to say something about it being incorrect. "Did they even check this?" Some places the waitress or waiter doesn't even bring out the food, someone else does. Now tips are just expected. The new attitude is, "Tip well so they will remember you and give you better service for the next time you are in." Wait, I have to tip well now, so hopefully they remember me and treat me well on a subsequent visit?! No thank you. I'm old, the tipping culture has changed. Now, if I'm going out to eat, I only eat at the bar. The bar service hasn't changed. Usually it's the manager that brings the food, and magically, the order is always correct. It's not like I'm ordering anything difficult. It's been the same order for decades, steak and eggs, steak and mashed potatoes, steak and fries, simple. If i'm at a taquería then just a couple orders of bistec tacos. You can't screw those orders up if you just check them. "Oh ♥♥♥♥, he was supposed to get fries, not 'mixed greens'".

I think people aren't proud to have the jobs they are in. Nobody looks at their job as a stepping stone to the job they want these days. My first job was pushing dishes in a restaurant, I was so proud of that job. Ahh well, good times.
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Hirenaga の投稿を引用:
Where have you seen self-service checkouts demanding tips? Ohhh..... you mean the round up for charity thing?

Yes in the UK it's charity donations you can leave but when I was in america in 2022, I can recall encountering them which took me by surprise.

The US based its tipping culture on Singapore's, France's, and the UK's.

Singapore's main contribution was using tips as both a tax baseline which directly reflects economic health in the middle classes and also lowers employee salaries and thus operating costs. Allowing the restauraunteer to apply for better loans. It's why you see so many nice restraunts with terrible food and angry staff that people are only supposed to come to once in their life.

Round up for charity is a similar practice in the UK, as these charities are where the bulk of the upper classes channel their money and thus acts as a wage depressant and profitability control. Protecting the closed charity market from actual charity. Restaurants in the US are similarly a piece of farm subsidies, and thus find themselves granted a lot of protections as long as they aren't poisoning people.

In France it's illegal to tip, but if you really liked the service you can sneak some money into the server's pocket somehow. Which if they catch you doing will of course refuse, although they might be a little bit lax about noticing. Unless they know what they've got and are trying to get people to compete to give them tips, and you tried to give them a tip under what they consider their going tip rate. (Such haughtiness is for only the most vogue cafes; most others can't really generate enough profit from the practice to outweigh the disruptions caused.) Getting tips to your waitress without their boss noticing is a similar game, and half the fun for many.
最近の変更はStrangerが行いました; 2024年2月11日 4時23分
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