Chernobyl wolves showing signs of resistance to cancer..

[Groogo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13061267/Mutant-wolves-Chernobyl-disaster-evolved-cancer.html

[Morkonan]

Groogo eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13061267/Mutant-wolves-Chernobyl-disaster-evolved-cancer.html

I couldn't find anything public on what was presented at the conference in Jan. They seem to run about two years behind, but I didn't try hard.

The thing is, we're talking about a relatively short amount of time to develop a response. Given that would mean the natural capacity to do so while still being viable, then it's a case of "why/how" did that evolve before or... is there something else going on and Malthus was "kinda" right? Some things do seem to point to a combination of Darwinian and Malthusian mechanics operating in Evolution, is this one of those?

The why/how is easy enough - DNA is important to Evolution, therefore... But, that it so quickly took hold in the population, if the article is correct, is still pretty wild and points to an ability to rapidly respond already existing or "something else."

TLDR IOW - Figure out how that existing ability was triggered or how some other trigger was triggered.

[L1qu1dator]

tiny E eredeti hozzászólása:

L1qu1dator eredeti hozzászólása:

I predict increase in price for real estate around Chernobyl

No way, it's too dangerous!
It's full of wolves which evidently can't be killed!

Would make for good guard hounds then :P

[76561198356019466]

WAIT!
GOT THE NAME WRONG. XD

It's called "Chernobyl Diaries".
It's not bad for a jump scare horror movie. Check it out if you have 90 minutes to kill.

[Fake]

That's all well and good but do these wolves glow in the dark?

[Stranger]

Wouldn't quantum mechanical processes play an exceedingly large environmental role in limited populations?

The usage of such processes in market manipulation as well as biological research would only increase the chances of its relevancy in this scenario.

[Morkonan]

Stranger eredeti hozzászólása:

Wouldn't quantum mechanical processes play an exceedingly large environmental role in limited populations?

The usage of such processes in market manipulation as well as biological research would only increase the chances of its relevancy in this scenario.

Radioactive pudding votes twice speeding shoestore.

[Stranger]

Morkonan eredeti hozzászólása:

Stranger eredeti hozzászólása:

Wouldn't quantum mechanical processes play an exceedingly large environmental role in limited populations?

The usage of such processes in market manipulation as well as biological research would only increase the chances of its relevancy in this scenario.

Radioactive pudding votes twice speeding shoestore.

So you've created a double slit scenario in all of your markets that treat cancer, and as long as no viable cure is presented this market can continue. It won't collapse owing to a cancer cure appearing and destroying the market.

Of course, we live in a market where solutions are regularly picked up and thrown in the garbage to protect product lines. So let's assume the cancer market is maximizing their selection against a cure, just for the sake of the argument.

At some point their control will be so absolute that spontaneous errorage begins to occur, such as spontaneous development of a trans-species cancer reistance treatment. And they will then have to turn around and eliminate that error, and whether they do or don't becomes a separate double slit offshoot. However, in order to preserve the path that resuletd in the spontaneous errorage their matrix will always select to end this alternate branch; otherwise the original double slit maximization wouldn't occur, and thus neither would any of its children.

Also God fundamentally believes there's no cure for cancer and acts as a omnipresent market maximization schema.

[Uncle Sam]

Also didn't whales have some sort of decent anti-cancer cells?

Edit: It seems there's many different type of animals that are cancer resistant, which is good.

[Stranger]

Uncle Sam eredeti hozzászólása:

Also didn't whales have some sort of decent anti-cancer cells?

Most large creatures develop megacancers, which are essentially a network of cancers so large they edge out and crush other tumors that grow too large. They're also so prevalent that they create the initial resource shortages that lead to cancer situations, and also apply those shortages to other nascent cancers to strangle them.

Kind of like the UK's market practices.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

But do they taste better than regular wolves?

[vkobe]

Stranger eredeti hozzászólása:

vkobe eredeti hozzászólása:

yup no cancer resistance die, so it mean only resistance cancer can reproduce each other

by that logic the decision to shell an uninhabited nuclear reactor ought to cause the humans to subconsciously choose targetting positions that will maximize the chance of hitting a beneficial wolf.

their genetic compatiability, and the sheer benefit to humanity resulting from it, ought to cause it to be a target for humanity's self-destructive impulses.

i not suggesting to use that against people

but darwin say weak die and only strong are able to reproduce each other

of course you can avoid the dead option if you isolate small part population in isolate place

[vkobe]

:D eredeti hozzászólása:

vkobe eredeti hozzászólása:

because they are not close to reactor, mostly they are in diluted radiation dust with other material, not in very concentred radiation dust near nuclear reactor

The Red Forest is still very irradiated
But yeah most of the Chernobyl area isn't THAT hot anymore.

red forest is big place and not all fallout drop in the red forest, i remind you surface radiation dust was drained by rain to river and to black sea

so lol if you think red forest radiation is similar to less of 100 meter melting nuclear reactor few hours after it blow up

[Refurbished Cream Cheese]

maybe because of some form of Iodine (KI) that they are eating in their diet? idk..

[Pocahawtness]

The effects of radiation were based on the American bombings of Japan. It's pretty widely accepted now that they overestimated the effects of lower radiation doses. Only the media like to play it up.

It is very interesting that nature in the area seems to be doing better with radiation and without us. Says a lot about what a terrible race we are.

[GloriousZote]

I wonder if this is yet another one of those articles misunderstanding what scientists said.