Starting to miss my grandparents more often now.

[Zeno]

Starting to miss my grandparents more often now.

They died like a few years ago (only got one grandfather left, two grandmothers and 1 grandfather are dead now).

Its odd since they are gone. I did not visit them that much anymore, at the end. But I still remember years before, when I visited them like on a daily basis as during school lunch break I always went there, after school or when I still lived with my parents, went there to visit with friends and such.

Then I moved abroad and did not visit as much anymore, but we talked.

Once I moved back, I visited again but not as frequent anymore.

Basically I could always call them or visit whenever I wanted, never needed to call first or anything. Its weird to not have them around anymore AT ALL. They definitely were people from another era man and that era died with them.

My other grandmother I saw on rare occassions but we got on very well and were somewhat similar in many aspects, I regret not going to her funeral.

When I was in my 20s, I did not think much of it. My grandparents were just always around, its something we take for granted and sometimes we even get a bit annoyed by our grandparents as the older they get, the less they comprehend, the less attention they have and the less they just give a f.... about things. But once they are gone, you start to slowly realise whats missing and also realise that your own parents somewhat change.

Obviously I am telling you the obvious here, but I assume many people who haven't actually experienced it don't realise what it means when your grandparents die, its literally an entire era gone forever, in my case, these people literally saw WW2, lived through 3 times my country literally became another country and have observed, survived and lived through numerous political systems with different world views and so on.
Its crazy.

Make sure to create good memories ! I still remember my childhood moments with them and my teenage years when I always visited them after school, at the time it was nothing special and a thing you daily do, just an average thing, but almost 20 years later, you still remember this stuff as if it was yesterday but then this one day, you get a call from your parents, that your grandmother or grandfather died. In my case I went there and saw her laying there in her flat, it wasn't a new view as I have seen death before, but seeing your grandmother not respond at all in this ...shape and colour ? Its somewhat weird and makes you realise that not only a phase of your life has now ended, but also that you will also lay there one day, alone in your flat, after living for such a long time but people won't only remember finding you there, they will mostly remember the good moments with you, even if it was just average stuff.

It was always somewhat frustrating to me to see people just disappear like this. They lived in this flat for a long time, then both died, the flat was cleared out and now new people live in there.

As if nothing ever happened. We are nothing. We are just an eye blink in human history.

[Mina]

A spec of dust in the universe, cosmically insignificant. It’s the time we enjoy, memories we make until the end that matter. Others believe in religion and an afterlife to help with these ideas as well.

[Zeno]

Цитата допису padmé:

A spec of dust in the universe, cosmically insignificant. It’s the time we enjoy, memories we make until the end that matter. Others believe in religion and an afterlife to help with these ideas as well.

I tried the religion part, but its hard for me to truly believe this.

[Heatblizzard]

Цитата допису Khatanga:

Цитата допису padmé:

A spec of dust in the universe, cosmically insignificant. It’s the time we enjoy, memories we make until the end that matter. Others believe in religion and an afterlife to help with these ideas as well.

I tried the religion part, but its hard for me to truly believe this.

Because it's not about religion. (Some) churches try that approach but it's about a personal relationship between God and you and living that journey so others will follow example. Church is so you can share your experiences at appropriate times and keep your mind on a straight line instead of going after the world's glamor but church is most definitely NOT a requirement to enter heaven!!

Our pastor has explained it several times that being and participating in church stuff is NOT what gets you into heaven even if we didn't do a single wrong thing.

In fact many will bang on the gates of heaven under his name saying they did this or did that but will not be admitted because their hearts were NOT in the right places. Jesus will come and say 'Who are you?'. You DON'T want to hear that from him. God/Jesus knows what's in your heart you cannot hide from him.

[Heatblizzard]

BTW: The bible says in the end every knee will bow down even if they don't believe and will confess God is lord but for some it will be too late. Personally I don't think people who don't believe in Christ actually go to hell automatically...................................................................................................
unless you refused in a mean way where your heart is no good for God and are not sorry for hurting others including yourself as your body is a temple for God or something like that.

If we hurt ourselves we 'hurt' God. There is NO victimless crime. Our bodies were not designed for us to abuse.

I think many go thru a waiting stage till they are judged appropriately based on their heart and each case is unique to that person. There is no 'hard rule' for sinners except for those who try to game God and think they can fool him. These people get the worst punishment then those who actually don't believe as they know better but still rebel.

If your grandparents were not believers that's okay. They have a purpose and won't be left out in the cold and I'm sure are looking out for you in the ways they best can given their state. I'm sure your grandparents miss their grandparents.

[Zeno]

Цитата допису Heatblizzard:

Цитата допису Khatanga:

I tried the religion part, but its hard for me to truly believe this.

Because it's not about religion. (Some) churches try that approach but it's about a personal relationship between God and you and living that journey so others will follow example. Church is so you can share your experiences at appropriate times and keep your mind on a straight line instead of going after the world's glamor but church is most definitely NOT a requirement to enter heaven!!

Our pastor has explained it several times that being and participating in church stuff is NOT what gets you into heaven even if we didn't do a single wrong thing.

In fact many will bang on the gates of heaven under his name saying they did this or did that but will not be admitted because their hearts were NOT in the right places. Jesus will come and say 'Who are you?'. You DON'T want to hear that from him. God/Jesus knows what's in your heart you cannot hide from him.

I have never even mentioned church, not sure how you come to that conclusion.

I read the bible, quran, tora, I really listened to experienced priests talk and question them, I really went into myself, but it never made any sense to me due to all the controversies in these religious books and the simple fact that there was a world " before " these religions were even created.

The only thing that truly made some sense to me was Buddhism. But buddhism isn't an actual religion (which everyone knows who knows the basics about it) as well as Stoicism.

I would consider myself an agnostic with a strong leaning towards buddhism and stoicism.
But certainly not religious.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

My first grandparent died when I turned 10. My mama is surprised I remember him.

My last grandparent died when I turned 20. My papa hates him so much. Not a good reason to go to Sweden either. I learned my about my family after he died, so I guess his death was worth something. At least I got my questions answered.

In the ground but not forgotten. Well until dementia or Alzheimer's hits.

[Candyy]

Well, I never met my father grandparents becuase they are on a different country, they do not know my language, and my father rly hates them to the point he does not even want to know anything about them and does not even want to keep pictures of them so is difficult... My dad did not have good parents apparently :/

And from mother side, my grampa died too early, never met him and well, the granny is still here but she usually travels and stuff like that, and I am tired of travelling to places, that woman is TOO active, even for myself...

I honestly have lived most of life without grandparents so I just cannot relate with your feelings, for me is like if they never existed, I know it sounds harsh but I am not complaining that much for not spending too much with the granny, we are just too different... I am helpful with all the help she provided but spending too much time with her is just not very entertaining for me 🤷‍♀️

[Riruru]

Me and my sister always stayed with my maternal grandparents when my parents were off working. I attribute who I am today as much to my parents as to my grandparents and thankfully everyone is healthy for the time being. I have no idea what I'd do without them.