Elon Musk attacks anti-hate speech yet again!

[Azza ☠]

Elon Musk now wants to fund legal frees to challenge the Irish Hate Speech Bill, claiming the law would infringe on people's ability to "say what they want to say".

After the 20th time, can we all now agree that Elon Musk doesn't care about Freedom of Speech, but rather just wants Hate Speech?

In before, they are 'blackmailing' me, while actually blackmailing Tesla.

[Plaid]

What is the actual policy there with the cisgendered speech on X?
Is it only when it's used to harass someone, or if the word is uttered will it result in 10 lashes? What's the deal there?

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Ulfrinn:

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

So does Elon Musk want anti-hate speech or not then?

He can't have it both ways, biasly single sided.

Is cisgender a slur or was Elon right? The choice is yours. You apparently want hate speech laws to exist, but only leftists have the power to dictate what that actually means. It's not going to happen where I'm from.

No, it's his choice, I'll just enforce it accordingly.

To me, that's just like the n-word. It has an actual meaning and an assumed meaning then, depending on the skin colour of who says it based upon racism (or in this case the gender).

It would be more funny if Elon Musk himself used it regularly towards others going what's up my cis! Yet anyways...

Yes, anti-hate speech could actually protect and cover that, if it was deemed as somehow a threat towards your life? How it is an actual threat, no idea? An incitement to sexually straight people's discrimination somehow without any history reason or background. However, Elon Musk would still need a valid root cause reason to make it so. Such as once upon a time, the transgender had slaved and restricted all the cisgenders and called them that as a slur to belittle and discredit them.

[Ulfrinn]

Publicado originalmente por Plaid:

What is the actual policy there with the cisgendered speech on X?
Is it only when it's used to harass someone, or if the word is uttered will it result in 10 lashes? What's the deal there?

The quote from Elon's Twitter says...

Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.

The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.

And this came after another Twitter user said he found it offensive, and then a bunch of activists started spamming him with the word in order to harass him with something he found offensive. So yeah, constant targeted harassment.

[Plaid]

Thanks!

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Ulfrinn:

Publicado originalmente por Plaid:

What is the actual policy there with the cisgendered speech on X?
Is it only when it's used to harass someone, or if the word is uttered will it result in 10 lashes? What's the deal there?

The quote from Elon's Twitter says...

Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.

The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.

And this came after another Twitter user said he found it offensive, and then a bunch of activists started spamming him with the word in order to harass him with something he found offensive. So yeah, constant targeted harassment.

Yes, I'm quite aware of it.

Ironically, it's trying to enforce anti-hate speech law without announcing a valid background reason and ignoring other anti-hate speech going the other way to remain equal among all.

Let's just put away in the bag that he's just transphobic and making up scapegoat excuses...

If you could actually find a valid reason, such as in history, when some group was oppressed by that term used by another group, it could possibly be added. However, it's not like they just randomly say this is bad and this is fine, there's oppression reasons behind doing so.

It would be similar to banning the usage of the Nazi swastikas online due to what oppression it means against the entire Jewish race and just used to offend them, with little to no other purpose.

Mostly it only comes down to when being associated with criminal conduct.

[Ulfrinn]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Publicado originalmente por Ulfrinn:

The quote from Elon's Twitter says...



And this came after another Twitter user said he found it offensive, and then a bunch of activists started spamming him with the word in order to harass him with something he found offensive. So yeah, constant targeted harassment.

Yes, I'm quite aware of it.

Ironically, it's trying to enforce anti-hate speech law without announcing a valid background reason and ignoring other anti-hate speech going the other way to remain equal among all.

Let's just put away in the bag that he's just transphobic and making up scapegoat excuses...

If you could actually find a valid reason, such as in history, when some group was oppressed by that term used by another group, it could possibly be added. However, it's not like they just randomly say this is bad and this is fine, there's oppression reasons behind doing so.

It would be similar to banning the usage of the Nazi swastikas online due to what oppression it means against the entire Jewish race and just used to offend them, with little to no other purpose.

You're quite aware that his text there clearly shows the word itself won't get you banned, but using it in repeated targeted harassment will? Then you've intentionally attempted to mislead people here on what Musk actually did. So you're just ♥♥♥♥ posting in bad faith to start arguments?

I'm done feeding this flame bait thread, unsubscribing, I have better things to do if OP can't even have an honest discussion.

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Ulfrinn:

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Yes, I'm quite aware of it.

Ironically, it's trying to enforce anti-hate speech law without announcing a valid background reason and ignoring other anti-hate speech going the other way to remain equal among all.

Let's just put away in the bag that he's just transphobic and making up scapegoat excuses...

If you could actually find a valid reason, such as in history, when some group was oppressed by that term used by another group, it could possibly be added. However, it's not like they just randomly say this is bad and this is fine, there's oppression reasons behind doing so.

It would be similar to banning the usage of the Nazi swastikas online due to what oppression it means against the entire Jewish race and just used to offend them, with little to no other purpose.

You're quite aware that his text there clearly shows the word itself won't get you banned, but using it in repeated targeted harassment will? Then you've intentionally attempted to mislead people here on what Musk actually did. So you're just ♥♥♥♥ posting in bad faith to start arguments?

No, actually I think it's a good point of how someone might try to abuse the anti-hate speech law and could be what Americans are afraid might happen if they had that. Yet he's doing that anyways without a written law explaining how to do so correctly, rather just making up his own terms about it.

Elon Musk likely also banned them, then changed the rules after doing so as a scapegoat reason. I consider that completely bs. You don't instantly change the rules and enforce them upon those unaware, that's just chaos and should therefore never be respected.

Now if you had already known the word cisgender was as bad as saying the n-word to a certain group, which you used to attack and demean them. No other purpose. Then sure, fair's fair to ban and block that activity. That's anti-hate speech. Without it, they would have unlimited freedom of speech to do so, in which you can't do anything about as it would deny them that freedom. So cisgender, cisgender, cisgender... would never end.

Elon Musk is currently denying your American First Amendment.