Elon Musk attacks anti-hate speech yet again!

[Azza ☠]

Elon Musk now wants to fund legal frees to challenge the Irish Hate Speech Bill, claiming the law would infringe on people's ability to "say what they want to say".

After the 20th time, can we all now agree that Elon Musk doesn't care about Freedom of Speech, but rather just wants Hate Speech?

In before, they are 'blackmailing' me, while actually blackmailing Tesla.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

You called Elon and Trump authoritarian.

Show me an example of either of them pushing for anything close to what Section 10 states.

I don't get what you are trying to get at?

I was previously questioning perhaps some find this new bill change as being authoritarian or something and that's why they are against it? Yet they ironically more authoritarian figures.

Did you need an example of how they are authoritarian figures? Yet how does all that relate to the Section 10?

I'm literally asking for an example of those 'authoritarian figures' pushing for anything similar to this bill.

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

I don't get what you are trying to get at?

I was previously questioning perhaps some find this new bill change as being authoritarian or something and that's why they are against it? Yet they ironically more authoritarian figures.

Did you need an example of how they are authoritarian figures? Yet how does all that relate to the Section 10?

I'm literally asking for an example of those 'authoritarian figures' pushing for anything similar to this bill.

Like how Elon Musk attempts to sue the internet watchdog Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), research groups and many others, in an attempt to show his authoritarian and threaten them into silence?

How he demands 25% shares ($83 billion more) from Tesla or no 'AI' after wasting most of his Tesla shares on the xTwitter purchase.

(etc)

Or how Donald Trump only vows to be a dictator on 'day one'?

His speech on Veterans Day where he vowed to “root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”

How he claimed immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” (Nazi propaganda straight out of Hitler's book)

Inciting an actual riot on January 6 at the US Capital, that lead to his supporters wanting to hang Mike Pence for not following his orders to rig the US election?

Donald Trump has suggested violent consequences for those who dare to cross him.

"Mark Milley, the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? He deserves to be executed", Trump said "so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!"

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

I'm literally asking for an example of those 'authoritarian figures' pushing for anything similar to this bill.

Like how Elon Musk attempts to sue the internet watchdog Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), research groups and many others, in an attempt to show his authoritarian and threaten them into silence?

How he demands 25% shares ($83 billion more) from Tesla or no 'AI' after wasting most of his Tesla shares on the xTwitter purchase.

None of that was authoritarian.

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Or how Donald Trump only vows to be a dictator on 'day one'?

His speech on Veterans Day where he vowed to “root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”

How he claimed immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” (Nazi propaganda straight out of Hitler's book)

Inciting an actual riot on January 6 at the US Capital, that lead to his supporters wanting to hang Mike Pence for not following his orders to rig the US election?

Donald Trump has suggested violent consequences for those who dare to cross him.

"Mark Milley, the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? He deserves to be executed", Trump said "so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!"

There you go.

Isn't the same as backing a bill with vaguely defined terms that open citizens up to being arrested based on offense being taken but it's still bad.

[Talby]

so basically this law creates more "protected" groups based on gender, while victims of anti-white / anti-christian / antisemitism remain unprotected. Got it.

[NW/RL]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Publicado originalmente por 8 gubed:

Why don't you post a link to the law in question?

Well the original one is from 1989...

PROHIBITION OF INCITEMENT TO HATRED ACT, 1989
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1989/act/19/enacted/en/print.html

It's nothing new, but rather just being updated to be more clear and now include transgenders, etc.

It's the updating of it, yet to be finalised, that Elon Musk wants to prevent because it would go against his hate speech and discrimination upon xTwitter, such as the time he had a completely mental breakdown rage out during Pride Month spewing/promoting hatred and disinformation about it, etc.

Oh I 'member berry, even if most Americans have some kind of serious short term memory lost.

OK the old law doesn't have anything egregious. Do you have a link to the proposed changes?

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por 8 gubed:

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Well the original one is from 1989...

PROHIBITION OF INCITEMENT TO HATRED ACT, 1989
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1989/act/19/enacted/en/print.html

It's nothing new, but rather just being updated to be more clear and now include transgenders, etc.

It's the updating of it, yet to be finalised, that Elon Musk wants to prevent because it would go against his hate speech and discrimination upon xTwitter, such as the time he had a completely mental breakdown rage out during Pride Month spewing/promoting hatred and disinformation about it, etc.

Oh I 'member berry, even if most Americans have some kind of serious short term memory lost.

OK the old law doesn't have anything egregious. Do you have a link to the proposed changes?

Well you are meant to register and login to view this:
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7ac0a806-d804-484e-805e-4dc3bb5d1ffc

However, click on "View Original" and it should take you to the source document anyways.

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Talby:

so basically this law creates more "protected" groups based on gender, while victims of anti-white / anti-christian / antisemitism remain unprotected. Got it.

Where did you get that from?

It already covered victims of anti-white / anti-christian / antisemitism, it's merely adding more "protected" groups based on gender to that too.

The protected characteristics under the Bill would be:
1. Race; (antisemitism, etc)
2. Colour; (anti-white, etc)
3. Nationality;
4. Religion; (anti-christian, etc)
5. National or Ethnic Origin;
6. Descent;
7. Gender; (adding more to cover all)
8. Sex Characteristics;
9. Sexual Orientation; and
10. Disability

[Ulfrinn]

Elon lives rent free in certain people's heads.

[xDDD]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Where did you get that from?

It already covered victims of anti-white / anti-christian / antisemitism, it's merely adding more "protected" groups based on gender to that too.

The protected characteristics under the Bill would be:
2. Colour; (anti-white, etc)
4. Religion; (anti-christian, etc)

LMAO You're pretty funny, Azza.
I'm SURE this bill will really crack down on anti-white and anti-christian stuff....

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Ulfrinn:

Elon lives rent free in certain people's heads.

It's not the person who lives rent free in my head.

I just hate the narcissist behaviours of certain individuals and the DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse) technique they tend to use...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob5NENZdkj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQ433qaXzo

I could care less if it was Putin, Trump, Elon or anyone else doing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1mFgaj7b8

[cassette]

sounds like a good idea

[Kilgore]

bro wants the world to be a safe space bubble for them i hope it works out for you and you never feel uncomfortable

[Azza ☠]

Publicado originalmente por Blake:

bro wants the world to be a safe space bubble for them i hope it works out for you and you never feel uncomfortable

Thank you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzU05QmJMDg

I still think people get confused what 'Hate Speech' actually is. It's quite different than disliking or disagreeing with me... now if you sent me a death threat or wanted to threaten my race, gender or perhaps you just really dislike cisgender alpha males and don't want them to have a voice, that could be considered as 'Hate Speech'.

A feminist could spew a lot of 'Hate Speech' towards males, harass them online and want them to suffer... Now as for being a feminist with their own point of view, they would still have freedom of speech and expression, just not that as that would be censorship of another's point of view or even encouraging the real-world harm upon them.

Why you would actually want that harassment and toxicity, no idea, unless you are the one wanting to do it yourself because you discriminate against others or just consider racism, etc, the norm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVcY--XzeIc

[Not Big Surprise]

elon musk doesn't care for free speech actually

[Kilgore]

Publicado originalmente por Azza ☠:

Publicado originalmente por Blake:

bro wants the world to be a safe space bubble for them i hope it works out for you and you never feel uncomfortable

Thank you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzU05QmJMDg

I still think people get confused what 'Hate Speech' actually is. It's quite different than disliking or disagreeing with me... now if you sent me a death threat or wanted to threaten my race, gender or perhaps you just really dislike cisgender alpha males and don't want them to have a voice, that could be considered as 'Hate Speech'.

A feminist could spew a lot of 'Hate Speech' towards males, harass them online and want them to suffer... Now as for being a feminist with their own point of view, they would still have freedom of speech and expression, just not that as that would be censorship of another's point of view or even encouraging the real-world harm upon them.

Why you would actually want that harassment and toxicity, no idea, unless you are the one wanting to do it yourself because you discriminate against others or just consider racism, etc, the norm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVcY--XzeIc

my problem is giving the government the power to dictate what someone can say, they can and will abuse that power. If I say something that they disagree with they can say im spouting hate speech and get me put in jail. They can use it against their political rivals and against citizens with differing views. The governments power should be limited by the people to prevent tyranny. I don't think you truly understand the potential consequences this could have in the future.