What's wrong with calling fat people fat ?

[76561199554591837]

I don't understand this fatphobia and fatshaming callouts. I pity a bald/short man more than a fat mf who has control of his own fate.

Laughing at bald or short person is horrible but Surely not at Fat people. They can always control diet and get better

And yeah there are no eating disorders. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Look...

if a fat person walks into a Gym.. and the buffs are starting to joke : look at that heap of lard..
->
thats bullying and not ok.. person is actually doing something about it.. and should not be harassed like that...

likewise there is no need to be needlessly cruel to an overweight person..
like picking on a colegue or classmate calling them miss piggy or such names to the point that person stays away from social events..

remarking when a fat person eats or orders fattening food in sight.. "is that wise?" is totally acceptable....
Sure it COULD be that they have lost 20kg all month and this is their ONE moment of something nice.. but than they can just say so..
fat person should not feel attacked for other people being concertned about their health.

and having the talk -> hey can I perhaps take you out to jog or something? to adress they need to fix their weight issue, and offering help.. is also totally acceptable..

the more a person shouts "fatshaming" the harsher they need to be told they are fat.. the more self aware they are.. the milder your tone can be..
***yes overeating is not fixed in a day and often a symptom of deeper issues.. but turning your head and just let them eat themselves into the grave aint helping them either...

there is no need to be needlessly cruel.. if you make a person only feel worse about themselves.. that likely will only worsen their psychologic disorder and lead to more overeating.
-> but a person thats blatenly in denial.. needs a bit more shock-therapy to be shown they DO have a problem..

[L1qu1dator]

I don't know where you've been hiding, but calling things by their names is prohibited for... i don't even know how long decades!
You can't call fatman fat, or moron a moron, or ♥♥♥♥♥ a ♥♥♥♥♥, cause "feelings"... their "feelings" will be hurt and you'll be just a "hater"

[De Hollandse Ezel]

I once got this "issue" when I was in my late teens.. there was a cafeteria lady who cooked us dinner.
-> what I however did not like was her food was always the same 3 foreign dishes... and dripping with fat...
**and she was quite fat herself.. so fat that even her fingers were swollen up..

I as a teen remarked I no longer wished to eat that food (and wanted out of my share of the payment of her services) as I not wanted "to get as large as her"

that cook took WAY to much offeense and went on a strike and refused to ever cook for me again.. so my housemates had no choose but to honour my request and cut me of her payments.. and allow me to cook for myself.
-fine with me..

for me.. I said nothing wrong.. her food was DRIPPING with fat.. and if she always cooked like that it was no wonder she was that large...

[De Hollandse Ezel]

L1qu1dator a écrit :

I don't know where you've been hiding, but calling things by their names is prohibited for... i don't even know how long :PuzzleBallDONT_KNOW: decades!
You can't call fatman fat, or moron a moron, or ♥♥♥♥♥ a ♥♥♥♥♥, cause "feelings"...

I am from 1982.. I refuse to join in the cancel culture.
I call things what they are.. concequences be damned.
-> and I try raising people around me to do the same.
you CAN call things what they are..
you just need to ignore all the screeking when you do.

[Xero_Daxter]

Reminds me of what my friend said.

Friend: How about we call them “the over-caloried”?
Me: That’s dumb. That sounds like a Stephen King Novel.

[L1qu1dator]

De Hollandse Ezel a écrit :

L1qu1dator a écrit :

I don't know where you've been hiding, but calling things by their names is prohibited for... i don't even know how long decades!
You can't call fatman fat, or moron a moron, or ♥♥♥♥♥ a ♥♥♥♥♥, cause "feelings"... their "feelings" will be hurt and you'll be just a "hater"

I am from 1982.. I refuse to join in the cancel culture.
I call things what they are.. concequences be damned.
-> and I try raising people around me to do the same.
you CAN call things what they are..
you just need to ignore all the screeking when you do.

Not here, or even Youtube. Unless you want a nice ban with that.

[Pierce Dalton]

What's wrong with calling you white?

[Xero_Daxter]

Pierce Dalton a écrit :

What's wrong with calling you white?

European Americans

[Hobbit XIII]

Uzair a écrit :

I don't understand this fatphobia and fatshaming callouts. I pity a bald/short man more than a fat mf who has control of his own fate.

Laughing at bald or short person is horrible but Surely not at Fat people. They can always control diet and get better

And yeah there are no eating disorders. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

It's not really any of your business the weight of somebody else.
Are you going up to people and pointing saying your fat?

[De Hollandse Ezel]

L1qu1dator a écrit :

De Hollandse Ezel a écrit :

I am from 1982.. I refuse to join in the cancel culture.
I call things what they are.. concequences be damned.
-> and I try raising people around me to do the same.
you CAN call things what they are..
you just need to ignore all the screeking when you do.

Not here, or even Youtube. Unless you want a nice ban with that.

why you think I get month long bans so often.. I keep fighting the fight.

[Morkonan]

Uzair a écrit :

...Laughing at bald or short person is horrible but Surely not at Fat people. They can always control diet and get better..

"Laughing at" them? That's... not wrong to do if it's a fat person? Stop being part of their problem.

I've had a few very large friends in my time. They were definitely not unaware of their problem and most assuredly could not manage to be very successful at doing much about it. They're most motivated to try to do something about it at the times when they are weakest and they are so very emotionally troubled about it... and not motivated to do much about it after they predictably fail. Trying to stop reaching for one's addiction when one is going through the toughest episodes that caused the addiction in the first place will have predictable results... They need help, but aren't likely to seek it out. They didn't before, right?

Obese people are trapped in an environment that is difficult to navigate if "abstinence" is the cure. Put it like this - Imagine you're an alcoholic, for whatever reason, and you are required to never stop being around alcohol. Worse, you must consume alcohol every day, regardless whether or not you're an alcoholic. Imagine that you're also reminded of your alcoholism, must face it every time you see the alcohol you're forced to look at, and must constantly think about it every time you drink your required minimum number of drinks every day. "Just stop drinking alcohol" is not a workable solution, here.

Some people are overweight nearly "naturally." Genetics does play a large part. Just like with other things in real life, some people will have an easier path to follow than others and "fault" can't be easily assumed. Some have lifestyle and work issues that may seriously reduce their ability to maintain healthy body weight. A very large number have unresolved emotional/psychological issues that have pushed them into the realm of eating disorders, but can't face it and won't seek help because they are convinced "because they are fat, it's their fault they're fat" and "all they have to do" is... all those things they've been unable to do for most of their life.

For obese people who are demanding society "recognize" that they are healthy and that there's nothing wrong with being obese.. Well, they're overcompensating and trying to deflect the social stigma they feel. They can't escape it - They have to buy two plane tickets. They can't ride a carnival ride. They can't visit their friends because they break their furniture. They break their own car seat. They can't shop at a normal store. They can't fit in a movie-theater seat... They can't sit in a booth at a restaurant. They can't fit through a turnstyle. And, they can't control their weight. Therefore - They try to alter society's opinion.

It's not even funny to laugh at them... They're delusional.

Everyone laughs at the funny fat guy... Why? A lot of overweight people compensate their feelings of rejection and the social stigma they carry with them by reaching out with comedy, jokes, etc.. That is "disarming" behavior. They are disarming the people around them so that they won't be likely to be attacked. (Not every obese person does that, but a large number of them do. Many do incorporate humor, at least humorous responses, to promote a disarming atmosphere, though. Some take the opposite approach, choosing to be the attacker instead of the attacked.)

In my experience, some obese people just give up and say "this is my life, now." At that point, you're usually looking at a dead person that doesn't know it, yet. Or, at the very least, someone who is going to encounter health problems that could be just as deadly, but could have been avoided.

That's not funny.

[Angel]

On a trip in Switzerland, a guy looked at me and said "You're so thin". He was overweight but wasn't rude, I knew his culture were blunt; I just told a joke about it and made the group there laughed. But it did make me wonder as obesity is constantly on the rise, would being "thin" be considered adnormal.

[Chaosolous]

Personally, I don't see the issue.

If you're fat you're fat.

It's far too rare for a medical condition to cause you to be obese than your own laziness.

Odds are you're not sick. You're lazy.

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Siluva a écrit :

SnakeFist a écrit :

Not everyone who is fat is because they eat a lot. Some have medical problems that causes them to be fat. So if you don't know the reason they are fat then the best course of action is to keep your insults to your self.

Except people who are fat because of medical problems especially medication will do their best to get back in shape as soon as they can and those people should be encouraged.
While people who do not want to control themselves and just use it as a pride flag to feel "special" deserve the "special" treatment they been craving for.

So what about the women who are a size 0 or 1 and say they are fat. Are they not also craving for that special treatment? What ever that is.

[Neurotic Panda]

same reason its 'wrong' to say anything about anyone anymore.

'fweelings'